On Monday 01 January 2007 20:09, Roger Beaumont wrote:

James Tremblay wrote:

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On Sunday 31 December 2006 15:19, garry saddington wrote:

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Why not make an easy to install Windows version just for testing by 'normal' teachers. Then for production recommend SuSE - not difficult to justify (security, stability etc.).

I can't think of a good reason to waste time with a windows anything. except maybe shades ;)

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You and I seem to be on a different thought process about these programs.

As I read what you say, James, 'Doze is a trivial issue, not worth getting steamed up about: all the basic tools can be OSS and available across platforms. That seems to me to be the fundamental benefit of an exercise like this: to escape from proprietary limitations. The only Windows-specific; Linux-specific; or, I believe, Novell-specific, elements should be the executables for the tools, plus the packaging - relatively trivial issues in themselves.

Which brings me back to the original question about what languages and tools to use... I was once almost commissioned to write a system for a local public school, to provide a system for room bookings, both for classes and external letting. My criteria for which tools to choose were: a) that I was already at least somewhat familiar with them; and b) that I could develop the system on my Linux kit, run the trial version on the 'Doze workstation in the office, then migrate it to the school's Novell servers. From those two criteria, I came up with Apache, MySQL and PHP.

I too feel that a AMP approach makes the best sense , which is why I'm looking to optimize the 3 programs chosen for installation and compatibility enhancements.

Aren't those criteria good ones here (there are probably other tools that fit)? Apart from anything else, if the system can run under 'Doze, then it becomes a step on the migration journey; if it won't, then it is not an option for anyone who hasn't, or isn't ready to, migrate: regrettably, quite a lot of potential users. (And server versus client doesn't distinguish anything: the system can, given the right OSS tools, run - either for demo/test purposes, or as the final tool - on whatever an establishment uses, both on the desk top and in the server room.)

I think we are loosing sight of one the goals I have outlined on the website, that is that, this will be an add-on installation media for OpenSUSE . I believe that an effective demo senario would be to download the current version of Opensuse and the EDU-CD add-on media and build it all very quickly and easily, leaving the customer with an installed SIS(Centre), LMS(Moodle), LAS(OpenBiblio). Well established and respected education management suite. The product I'm after isn't new, it's an enhancement to these programs to make them work together. The OpenSUSE\Novell team shouldn't have to fork anything, just donate some "Identity management" programming. just enough to make them more compatible with the IMS ( http://www.imsglobal.org/ ) standard and LDAP like Moodle is already. This will make them more compatible with Novell's e-directory by default. After that it's up to the original programmers to make them load on 'doze --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org