On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 12:01:07 +0200 Caig wrote:

Hi, if you really need to login as root (can't you use root privilege from an user session?) you can: * show root in the user list via "System Settings -> Login Screen -> Users" and deselecting root from the "Excluded Users" list * or disable the user list in the same dialog tab deselecting the "Show list" option. >>>> Note: don't enable Autocompletion option.

Caig

Thanks for these suggestions; I'd had the same problem whilst testing 13.1. When I tried your first suggestion, I was surprised to see that 'root' wasn't excluded although it didn't appear in the list at login. I guessed it might have something to do with only having one user and so I added another. Lo and behold, at the next login, 'root' appeared with the two other users. I also tried your second suggestion and, of course, that worked fine. Thanks for your help. My own reasons for using 'root': (1) The last time I had to use it was a few weeks ago when I'd installed something from a factory repo and my user KDE session was scrambled. I could login OK but various applications were not visible on the desktops - including YaST - although the task icons were visible on the task-bar. I logged into 'root' and uninstalled the offending software and all was OK. (2) On another recent occasion, I needed to remove (by renaming) the .kde4 folder but a new one was created before logoff which contained the same problems I wanted to fix. I therefore logged on as 'root' and renamed the folder from there before logging back on as the user and so getting a clean .kde4. (3) This last one also happened recently and is an oldie and a weirdie that I thought had gone away. On a new installation, I found that the sound wasn't working too well. I checked and changed the volumes in YaST but this didn't work as it should so I resorted to logging in as 'root' and changing the volumes there. This time it worked. -- Graham Davis, Bracknell, Berks. openSUSE 12.3 (64-bit); KDE 4.11.1; AMD Phenom II X2 550 Processor; Kernel: 3.11.0; Video: nVidia GeForce 210 (using nouveau driver); Sound: ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA); Wireless: BCM4306 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 10:20:11 -0400 Patrick Shanahan wrote:

* Graham P Davis [09-09-13 09:35]: [...]

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My own reasons for using 'root':

(1) The last time I had to use it was a few weeks ago when I'd installed something from a factory repo and my user KDE session was scrambled. I could login OK but various applications were not visible on the desktops - including YaST - although the task icons were visible on the task-bar. I logged into 'root' and uninstalled the offending software and all was OK.

(2) On another recent occasion, I needed to remove (by renaming) the .kde4 folder but a new one was created before logoff which contained the same problems I wanted to fix. I therefore logged on as 'root' and renamed the folder from there before logging back on as the user and so getting a clean .kde4.

(3) This last one also happened recently and is an oldie and a weirdie that I thought had gone away. On a new installation, I found that the sound wasn't working too well. I checked and changed the volumes in YaST but this didn't work as it should so I resorted to logging in as 'root' and changing the volumes there. This time it worked.

And *all* of the above could be solved much easier/quicker/simpler by logging into a text console, , as root and performing the actions w/o initiating the graphical interface (where your problems were). Of course, there are no icons to click on but ....

The meanings of the words 'easier', 'quicker' and 'simpler' in your world obviously differ significantly from the ones with which I'm familiar. -- Graham Davis, Bracknell, Berks. openSUSE 12.3 (64-bit); KDE 4.11.1; AMD Phenom II X2 550 Processor; Kernel: 3.11.0; Video: nVidia GeForce 210 (using nouveau driver); Sound: ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA); Wireless: BCM4306 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org