Re: [opensuse-factory] Announcing Yast-GTK (forw)

... because the reply-to on a discussion list is not pointing to the list.... ----- Forwarded message from Joerg Mayer <jmayer@loplof.de> ----- Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 09:58:47 +0200 From: Joerg Mayer <jmayer@loplof.de> To: Marcel Hilzinger <mhilzinger@linuxnewmedia.de> Subject: Re: [opensuse-factory] Announcing Yast-GTK In-Reply-To: <200608231123.02818.mhilzinger@linuxnewmedia.de> On Wed, Aug 23, 2006 at 11:23:00AM +0200, Marcel Hilzinger wrote:
And while you are at it: Can the next SoC project please remove the gnome dependencies from zen (and other system services) and offer qt/kde alternatives for those who only want to run a kde desktop? ciao Joerg -- Joerg Mayer <jmayer@loplof.de> We are stuck with technology when what we really want is just stuff that works. Some say that should read Microsoft instead of technology. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Joerg Mayer <jmayer@loplof.de> We are stuck with technology when what we really want is just stuff that works. Some say that should read Microsoft instead of technology. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 10:00:05 +0200, Joerg Mayer wrote:
You don't quote headers!
Forget it. That would require that someone writes a qt# library and possibly kde# libraries first in order to then rewrite zmd and other zen stuff thats written in mono. That someone would then have to constantly maintain all the stuff. IMNSHO that's never going to happen. Philipp --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

That looks to me like that in a lot of peoples' opinion, the "forget it" also applies to novell-zen: there's little interest in running a desktop (esp gnome) just for basic system services. Billy made that mistake many years ago, and boy fell he on his face. Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann is list0570 with the domain in header http://volker.dnsalias.net/ Please do not CC list postings to me. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

On Sat, Aug 26, 2006 at 04:41:12PM +1200, Volker Kuhlmann wrote:
zen-updater is just a gtk-sharp application, just like gimp a gtk application is. Ciao, Marcus --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

On Friday 25 August 2006 20:33, Philipp Thomas wrote:
http://en.opensuse.org/KDE_Updater_Applet Duncan --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Joerg Mayer <jmayer@loplof.de> writes:
This is already worked on in parts. zen-updater can be replaced by a kde program - this was a SoC project. zmd itself as a daemon should IMO - I didn't check, so this might be what needs to be done - not require a graphical toolkit at all, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 10:00:05 +0200, Joerg Mayer wrote:
You don't quote headers!
Forget it. That would require that someone writes a qt# library and possibly kde# libraries first in order to then rewrite zmd and other zen stuff thats written in mono. That someone would then have to constantly maintain all the stuff. IMNSHO that's never going to happen. Philipp --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

That looks to me like that in a lot of peoples' opinion, the "forget it" also applies to novell-zen: there's little interest in running a desktop (esp gnome) just for basic system services. Billy made that mistake many years ago, and boy fell he on his face. Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann is list0570 with the domain in header http://volker.dnsalias.net/ Please do not CC list postings to me. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

On Sat, Aug 26, 2006 at 04:41:12PM +1200, Volker Kuhlmann wrote:
zen-updater is just a gtk-sharp application, just like gimp a gtk application is. Ciao, Marcus --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

On Friday 25 August 2006 20:33, Philipp Thomas wrote:
http://en.opensuse.org/KDE_Updater_Applet Duncan --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Joerg Mayer <jmayer@loplof.de> writes:
This is already worked on in parts. zen-updater can be replaced by a kde program - this was a SoC project. zmd itself as a daemon should IMO - I didn't check, so this might be what needs to be done - not require a graphical toolkit at all, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
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Andreas Jaeger
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Joerg Mayer
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Marcus Meissner
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Philipp Thomas
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Volker Kuhlmann