[opensuse-factory] OpenJDK 1.8.0/SeaMonkey 2.48 incompatibility on Leap 42.3
Dear all, It seems it is not possible to install the latest official release of OpenJDK (1.8.0, from the update repository) together with the latest official release of SeaMonkey (2.48, from the mozilla repository) on Leap 42.3. Zypper and YaST tell me that this is because seamonkey-2.48-1.3.x86_64 requires mozilla-nspr >= 4.15, whereas java-1_8_0-openjdk-headless-1.8.0.144-13.3.x86_64 requires mozilla-nss = 3.28.5. This incompatibility does not seem to exist on Tumbleweed, where both packages live together in peace and harmony. This leads me to believe it's a packaging problem. Where would be the best place to report this? Regards, Tristan -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Tristan Miller Free Software developer, ferret herder, logologist https://logological.org/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
On 31/08/17 22:24, Tristan Miller wrote:
Dear all,
It seems it is not possible to install the latest official release of OpenJDK (1.8.0, from the update repository) together with the latest official release of SeaMonkey (2.48, from the mozilla repository) on Leap 42.3.
Zypper and YaST tell me that this is because seamonkey-2.48-1.3.x86_64 requires mozilla-nspr >= 4.15, whereas java-1_8_0-openjdk-headless-1.8.0.144-13.3.x86_64 requires mozilla-nss = 3.28.5.
This incompatibility does not seem to exist on Tumbleweed, where both packages live together in peace and harmony. This leads me to believe it's a packaging problem. Where would be the best place to report this?
Regards, Tristan
This is likely not a packaging bug, nor a bug at all, its a design decision we have taken with Leap to stay at a fixed version of many software components for stability, as such its not going to always be possible to install the latest versions of software like seamonkey on leap as we don't meet there version requirements for dependencies. In openSUSE we only give you 2 options, run sometimes older software that was tested together with other software from a similar time to create a "Stable" Distro ie Leap, or you can run the latest of everything being tumbleweed (which is mostly quite stable because most developers of most software run the latest everything anyway). We don't officially support a middle position ie Leap with some newer apps because its much harder due to issues like the one you are seeing. -- Simon Lees (Simotek) http://simotek.net Emergency Update Team keybase.io/simotek SUSE Linux Adelaide Australia, UTC+10:30 GPG Fingerprint: 5B87 DB9D 88DC F606 E489 CEC5 0922 C246 02F0 014B
Simon Lees composed on 2017-09-02 11:47 (UTC+0930): ...
Tristan Miller wrote:
It seems it is not possible to install the latest official release of OpenJDK (1.8.0, from the update repository) together with the latest official release of SeaMonkey (2.48, from the mozilla repository) on Leap 42.3.
FWIW, the SeaMonkey 2.48 with which I write this on openSUSE came from https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.48/contrib/
Zypper and YaST tell me that this is because seamonkey-2.48-1.3.x86_64 requires mozilla-nspr >= 4.15, whereas java-1_8_0-openjdk-headless-1.8.0.144-13.3.x86_64 requires mozilla-nss = 3.28.5. ... This is likely not a packaging bug, nor a bug at all, its a design decision we have taken with Leap to stay at a fixed version of many software components for stability, as such its not going to always be possible to install the latest versions of software like seamonkey on leap as we don't meet there version requirements for dependencies.
Surely something must be wrong with *something*, if not packaging, that any java* package can require any specific mozilla* (Portable Runtime) package that can block keeping a web browser, particularly a mozilla browser, current. "Latest" SeaMonkey isn't even current. Current arguably would be the yet to be released SeaMonkey 2.49.x, equivalent to Firefox ESR52/rv52, which *is* in standard 42.3 update repo. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Hi, Am 31.08.2017 um 14:54 schrieb Tristan Miller:
It seems it is not possible to install the latest official release of OpenJDK (1.8.0, from the update repository) together with the latest official release of SeaMonkey (2.48, from the mozilla repository) on Leap 42.3.
Zypper and YaST tell me that this is because seamonkey-2.48-1.3.x86_64 requires mozilla-nspr >= 4.15, whereas java-1_8_0-openjdk-headless-1.8.0.144-13.3.x86_64 requires mozilla-nss = 3.28.5.
Is this really the correct message? I do not see a correlation between mozilla-nspr and mozilla-nss like described above. I think what you see is the outfall of https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1026102 In the current situation you can only ignore the Java<->NSS dependency and update NSS as required by Seamonkey (or any other package from mozilla). Your probability that Java still works is 99% anyway. Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Moin, On Sun, 03 Sep 2017, 08:08:04 +0200, Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:
Hi,
Am 31.08.2017 um 14:54 schrieb Tristan Miller:
It seems it is not possible to install the latest official release of OpenJDK (1.8.0, from the update repository) together with the latest official release of SeaMonkey (2.48, from the mozilla repository) on Leap 42.3.
Zypper and YaST tell me that this is because seamonkey-2.48-1.3.x86_64 requires mozilla-nspr >= 4.15, whereas java-1_8_0-openjdk-headless-1.8.0.144-13.3.x86_64 requires mozilla-nss = 3.28.5.
Is this really the correct message? I do not see a correlation between mozilla-nspr and mozilla-nss like described above.
I think what you see is the outfall of https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1026102
In the current situation you can only ignore the Java<->NSS dependency and update NSS as required by Seamonkey (or any other package from mozilla). Your probability that Java still works is 99% anyway.
in addition you could also add my home repo which I use to rebuild all java-1_8_0-openjdk packages against Wolfgang's mozilla repo. This way I can always use the latest mozilla packages. I do this for openSUSE_Leap_42.2 and _42.3; add the repo as follows: zypper ar home:mhnovell:Rebuilds:openSUSE_Leap_42.2 java4mozilla zypper ar home:mhnovell:Rebuilds:openSUSE_Leap_42.3 java4mozilla
Wolfgang
HTH, cheers. l8er manfred
Dear Wolfgang, On Sun, 3 Sep 2017 08:08:04 +0200, Wolfgang Rosenauer <wolfgang@rosenauer.org> wrote:
Am 31.08.2017 um 14:54 schrieb Tristan Miller:
It seems it is not possible to install the latest official release of OpenJDK (1.8.0, from the update repository) together with the latest official release of SeaMonkey (2.48, from the mozilla repository) on Leap 42.3.
Zypper and YaST tell me that this is because seamonkey-2.48-1.3.x86_64 requires mozilla-nspr >= 4.15, whereas java-1_8_0-openjdk-headless-1.8.0.144-13.3.x86_64 requires mozilla-nss = 3.28.5.
Is this really the correct message? I do not see a correlation between mozilla-nspr and mozilla-nss like described above.
No, sorry, it's not the correct message. I was trying to summarize what was actually a complicated set of conflicts. Looks like I didn't notice the difference between "mozilla-nspr" and "mozilla-nss". The actual conflict message from trying to install SeaMonkey 2.48 is as follows: seamonkey-2.48-1.3.x86_64 requires mozilla-nspr >= 4.15, but this requirement cannot be provided uninstallable providers: mozilla-nspr-4.15-1.1.i586[mozilla] mozilla-nspr-4.15-1.1.x86_64[mozilla] [ ] do not install seamonkey-2.48-1.3.x86_64 [ ] break seamonkey-2.48-1.3.x86_64 by ignoring some of its dependencies [ ] Following actions will be done: install mozilla-nspr-4.15-1.1.x86_64 (with vendor change) openSUSE --> obs://build.opensuse.org/mozilla install mozilla-nspr-devel-4.15-1.1.x86_64 (with vendor change) openSUSE --> obs://build.opensuse.org/mozilla install mozilla-nss-devel-3.31-1.1.x86_64 (with vendor change) openSUSE --> obs://build.opensuse.org/mozilla deinstallation of java-1_8_0-openjdk-headless-1.8.0.144-13.3.x86_64 deinstallation of java-1_8_0-openjdk-1.8.0.144-13.3.x86_64 deinstallation of java-1_8_0-openjdk-devel-1.8.0.144-13.3.x86_64 If the vendor change is accepted, then a second conflict arises: seamonkey-2.48-1.3.x86_64 requires mozilla-nss >= 3.31, but this requirement cannot be provided uninstallable providers: mozilla-nss-3.31-1.1.i586[mozilla] mozilla-nss-3.31-1.1.x86_64[mozilla] [ ] break seamonkey-2.48-1.3.x86_64 by ignoring some of its dependencies [ ] Following actions will be done: do not install mozilla-nss-devel-3.31-1.1.x86_64 do not install seamonkey-2.48-1.3.x86_64 [ ] Following actions will be done: do not install seamonkey-2.48-1.3.x86_64 do not install mozilla-nss-devel-3.31-1.1.x86_64 [ ] install mozilla-nss-3.31-1.1.x86_64 (with vendor change) openSUSE --> obs://build.opensuse.org/mozilla Trying to switch all packages to the "mozilla" repository results in an even more complicated set of conflicts. No matter what resolution path is followed, it doesn't seem possible to have both SeaMonkey 2.48 and OpenJDK 1.8.0 installed at the same time. As Felix mentioned, there is no problem running the 64-bit "contrib" build from the SeaMonkey website.
I think what you see is the outfall of https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1026102
I can't pretend to understand the entirety of that issue, but I'll take your word for it that it's the cause.
In the current situation you can only ignore the Java<->NSS dependency and update NSS as required by Seamonkey (or any other package from mozilla). Your probability that Java still works is 99% anyway.
OK, I'll give it a try. In the worst case, I can revert to SeaMonkey 2.46. (I can't live without OpenJDK 1.8.0 as I need to develop in Java 8.) Regards, Tristan -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Tristan Miller Free Software developer, ferret herder, logologist https://logological.org/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
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