[opensuse-factory] basedonopensuse
Hi, I just had a case where someone had issues with Firefox because he was using MozillaFirefox-branding-basedonopensuse Could someone give me some pointers what the purpose of these -basedonopensuse packages is and who is responsible for them? I'm only maintaining -branding-openSUSE at the moment and we just released an update for that for compatibility with Firefox 14 but I guess nobody touches basedonopensuse and therefore people are a bit stuck with bugs probably. Thanks, Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 05:13:04PM +0200, Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:
branding-basedonopensuse its build seems to pull in from MozillaFirefox-branding-openSUSE directly and then rewrite it into the MozillaFirefox-branding-basedonopensuse package. This probably means we also need to update it if we update MozillaFirefox-branding-openSUSE Ciao, Marcus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
This had some meaning a while back in SUSE Studio, but I'm not sure it still does. Briefly, if I recall correctly there were three cases: 1. If you build an appliance that uses only software from the openSUSE repositories, you can use the "branding-opensuse" packages. 2. If you build an appliance that uses only software from the openSUSE and OBS repositories, you can use the "branding-basedonopensuse" packages. 3. If you build an appliance with software outside of openSUSE and OBS, you have to use the "branding-upstream" packages. That said, there are a number of minor dependency issues; for example, there's no "branding-upstream" for any of the YaST packages. I usually start my appliances with openSUSE branding and switch to upstream once I am ready to release them. There are some missing pieces in a few places but the appliances work. I haven't had much luck with the "basedonopensuse" versions. On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 8:13 AM, Wolfgang Rosenauer <wolfgang@rosenauer.org> wrote:
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3. If you build an appliance with software outside of openSUSE and OBS, you have to use the "branding-upstream" packages.
'branding-upstream' is normally used for the upstream source; for example if you look at GNOME2 in 11.4 you notice that we didn't used upstream branding (clearlooks) and instead used 'Sonar'. On Plymouth package you remove some images that you replace during the install; you keep those original images as 'branding-upstream' and the openSUSE logo's as 'branding-openSUSE'. Many packages generate multiple brandings, you can pretty much take a look at them as good sources on how to provide branding packages. A good example I remind myself of it plymouth and glib-branding-openSUSE... NM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Sunday 2012-08-19 08:42, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:
That said, there are a number of minor dependency issues; for example, there's no "branding-upstream" for any of the YaST packages.
Which puts up the question: what branding is acceptable for yast in appliances that otherwise would need non-SUSE branding? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Hey, On 17.08.2012 17:13, Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:
We provide them as convenience packages for people to de-brand openSUSE. See the trademark guidelines http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Trademark_guidelines#Distributing_openSUSE_W...
I guess nobody touches basedonopensuse
So far Coolo did, but you're of course more than welcome to help out :) Henne -- Henne Vogelsang http://www.opensuse.org Everybody has a plan, until they get hit. - Mike Tyson -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Hmm ... the new guidelines are a lot less restrictive than they were when I first started building appliances in SUSE Studio, which was a couple weeks after it went into public beta. In particular, it looks like the restriction against using "based on openSUSE" if you have software not from openSUSE or OBS repositories has been eliminated. Is there some way I can get an "official" confirmation? I'd like to switch to "basedonopensuse" if I can. On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 2:15 AM, Henne Vogelsang <hvogel@opensuse.org> wrote:
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On Monday, August 20, 2012 09:55:22 M. Edward Borasky wrote:
That's exactly why it was done - so that you can add other software and still call it based on openSUSE - but with a slightly changed branding, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger aj@{suse.com,opensuse.org} Twitter/Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GF: Jeff Hawn,Jennifer Guild,Felix Imendörffer,HRB16746 (AG Nürnberg) GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Hi, Wolfgang, Sorry to interrupt. I found you are branding-openSUSE maintainer in "based on openSUSE" thread in Factory list. I have a question about branding-openSUSE Under KDE environment, there'll be My computer/openSUSE/Online Help .desktop placed into $HOME/Desktop directory. And in specfile, they use %suse_update_desktop_file macro to render to provide translation support. But actually the translation's are empty in them. If we have something like Name(zh_CN) in them, they'll be displayed as 我的电脑/openSUSE/在线帮助. which is a lot better because we don't need to see these English characters after a fresh install in a 100% translated Chinese desktop. Other .dekstop icons have already had the correct name like "Home Folder" will be automatically translated into "主文件夹". So can you help me figue out why this happened? or how can we make the above "if" happen? Thanks Marguerite -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Hi Marguerite, Am 28.08.2012 11:54, schrieb Marguerite Su:
Sorry, I cannot really help you. There was some misunderstanding probably as I'm not the branding-openSUSE maintainer but only for MozillaFirefox-branding-openSUSE. Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 05:13:04PM +0200, Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:
branding-basedonopensuse its build seems to pull in from MozillaFirefox-branding-openSUSE directly and then rewrite it into the MozillaFirefox-branding-basedonopensuse package. This probably means we also need to update it if we update MozillaFirefox-branding-openSUSE Ciao, Marcus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
This had some meaning a while back in SUSE Studio, but I'm not sure it still does. Briefly, if I recall correctly there were three cases: 1. If you build an appliance that uses only software from the openSUSE repositories, you can use the "branding-opensuse" packages. 2. If you build an appliance that uses only software from the openSUSE and OBS repositories, you can use the "branding-basedonopensuse" packages. 3. If you build an appliance with software outside of openSUSE and OBS, you have to use the "branding-upstream" packages. That said, there are a number of minor dependency issues; for example, there's no "branding-upstream" for any of the YaST packages. I usually start my appliances with openSUSE branding and switch to upstream once I am ready to release them. There are some missing pieces in a few places but the appliances work. I haven't had much luck with the "basedonopensuse" versions. On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 8:13 AM, Wolfgang Rosenauer <wolfgang@rosenauer.org> wrote:
-- Twitter: http://twitter.com/znmeb; Computational Journalism Publishers Workbench: http://j.mp/QCsXOr How the Hell can the lion sleep with all those people singing "A weem oh way!" at the top of their lungs? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
3. If you build an appliance with software outside of openSUSE and OBS, you have to use the "branding-upstream" packages.
'branding-upstream' is normally used for the upstream source; for example if you look at GNOME2 in 11.4 you notice that we didn't used upstream branding (clearlooks) and instead used 'Sonar'. On Plymouth package you remove some images that you replace during the install; you keep those original images as 'branding-upstream' and the openSUSE logo's as 'branding-openSUSE'. Many packages generate multiple brandings, you can pretty much take a look at them as good sources on how to provide branding packages. A good example I remind myself of it plymouth and glib-branding-openSUSE... NM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Sunday 2012-08-19 08:42, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:
That said, there are a number of minor dependency issues; for example, there's no "branding-upstream" for any of the YaST packages.
Which puts up the question: what branding is acceptable for yast in appliances that otherwise would need non-SUSE branding? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Hey, On 17.08.2012 17:13, Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:
We provide them as convenience packages for people to de-brand openSUSE. See the trademark guidelines http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Trademark_guidelines#Distributing_openSUSE_W...
I guess nobody touches basedonopensuse
So far Coolo did, but you're of course more than welcome to help out :) Henne -- Henne Vogelsang http://www.opensuse.org Everybody has a plan, until they get hit. - Mike Tyson -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Hmm ... the new guidelines are a lot less restrictive than they were when I first started building appliances in SUSE Studio, which was a couple weeks after it went into public beta. In particular, it looks like the restriction against using "based on openSUSE" if you have software not from openSUSE or OBS repositories has been eliminated. Is there some way I can get an "official" confirmation? I'd like to switch to "basedonopensuse" if I can. On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 2:15 AM, Henne Vogelsang <hvogel@opensuse.org> wrote:
-- Twitter: http://twitter.com/znmeb; Computational Journalism Publishers Workbench: http://j.mp/QCsXOr How the Hell can the lion sleep with all those people singing "A weem oh way!" at the top of their lungs? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
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Andreas Jaeger -
Henne Vogelsang -
Jan Engelhardt -
M. Edward (Ed) Borasky -
Marcus Meissner -
Marguerite Su -
Nelson Marques -
Wolfgang Rosenauer