[opensuse-factory] Update to 13.1 = total fail
I have tried to upgrade to 13.1. After an install I got a pure Grub prompt. I found an old 11.4 LiveDVD and tried to repair and re-install grub, unsuccessfully. Then installed grub2 and os-prober packages via chroot, executed grub2-install. The grub still did not boot asking for "directory". I gave an ad-hoc name and it asked for a file modinfo.sh. Via google I found it to be in grub2-i386-pc package. I installed it via chroot. The system booted up, first and last time. The video was working only in 2D mode. I made the following changes: removed package grub (because there was already grub2), removed nvidia g02 drivers (because they anyway do not support my card), changed the grub2 wait time from 10 to 2 seconds via yast, made zypper up. The internet connection disappeared somewhat 5 minutes from boot and could not be restored. I decided to reboot. The system did not boot any more. After the message about successful mounting of the root file system the booting stopped. The last messages were cut off so I could not guess the cause. I booted from the live DVD and in chroot tried to reverse the last changes. Re-installed grub, the g02 drivers, restored the grub settings from the file grub.old. This did not help. Then I re-installed grub2 several times, changed the kernel to different versions - from 3.11 to 3.7 and 3.4, variants from desktop to default and vanilla. No effect. So I googled the kernel boot options so to chnge the video mode at boot. So I set up the low-res text mode in grub2 so that the messages were not cut. The message was "Error loading shared libraries libwrap.so.0. Not synchronized. Attempted to kill init. Kernel panic". I found that libwrap.so.0 file is in the package tcpd. I re-installed this package, but wihout effect. I also tred to change the mount options of the root filesystem in fstab (the root file system is ext4), but again this did not help. So I decided to roll back. The chroot environment could not resolve host names so I added the Google DNS 8.8.8.8 to the config file. Then I started to update tho the previous release. In the course of update some packages were hanging on scripts so I had to interrupt zypper. After one such interrupt zypper refused to start again due to incorrect glib version. So I downloaded libzypp and zypper via wget and installed with rpm -i --force. After that the installation completed. I was again met with grub prompt, but made grub2-install and the system booted in text mode. I installed the nvidia drivers and it booted successfully. So this is the system I use currently. I think all these operations are not well suitable to an average user. I also have no idea on how to make 13.1 to work. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 2013-12-06 01:22, Ilya Chernykh wrote:
I have tried to upgrade to 13.1.
How? Which type of upgrade? Online System Upgrade (zypper dup) or Offline System Upgrade (boot DVD, choose upgrade instead of install)? Or fresh install on top of the old one? -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 12.3 x86_64 "Dartmouth" at Telcontar)
On 12/06/2013 01:59 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2013-12-06 01:22, Ilya Chernykh wrote:
I have tried to upgrade to 13.1.
How? Which type of upgrade? Online System Upgrade (zypper dup) or Offline System Upgrade (boot DVD, choose upgrade instead of install)? Or fresh install on top of the old one?
And finally: I didn't read thru it all, but what does it have to do with os-factory? I mean, 13.1 is released, i.e. opensuse@opensuse.org would be the right place, wouldn't it? ;-) Have a nice day, Berny -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Friday 06 December 2013 04:59:47 Carlos E. R. wrote:
I have tried to upgrade to 13.1.
How? Which type of upgrade? Online System Upgrade (zypper dup) or Offline System Upgrade (boot DVD, choose upgrade instead of install)? Or fresh install on top of the old one?
zypper dup -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 2013-12-06 03:38, Ilya Chernykh wrote:
On Friday 06 December 2013 04:59:47 Carlos E. R. wrote:
I have tried to upgrade to 13.1.
How? Which type of upgrade? Online System Upgrade (zypper dup) or Offline System Upgrade (boot DVD, choose upgrade instead of install)? Or fresh install on top of the old one?
zypper dup
Then you can try to do an Offline System Upgrade on top of it, to repair some of it. Boot the DVD and choose upgrade. http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Offline_upgrade https://www.suse.com/releasenotes/i386/openSUSE/13.1/RELEASE-NOTES.en.html -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 12.3 x86_64 "Dartmouth" at Telcontar)
On Friday 06 December 2013 15:59:43 Carlos E. R. wrote:
How? Which type of upgrade? Online System Upgrade (zypper dup) or Offline System Upgrade (boot DVD, choose upgrade instead of install)? Or fresh install on top of the old one?
zypper dup
Then you can try to do an Offline System Upgrade on top of it, to repair some of it. Boot the DVD and choose upgrade.
When I was in trouble, I had only 11.4 DVD unfortunately. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 4:59 AM, Carlos E. R. <robin.listas@telefonica.net> wrote:
On 2013-12-06 01:22, Ilya Chernykh wrote:
I have tried to upgrade to 13.1.
How?
And from which version ... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 2013-12-06 10:04 (GMT+0400) Andrey Borzenkov composed:
Carlos E. R. wrote:
Ilya Chernykh wrote:
I have tried to upgrade to 13.1.
How?
[zypper dup]
And from which version ...
Exactly which preparatory steps were taken? Did you consider that maybe YaST or manual intervention would be required to properly replace Grub Legacy with Grub2? Were you not aware that for recommended upgrades that Grub2 would not by default replace Grub Legacy if Grub Legacy was the installed bootloader? -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Friday 06 December 2013 10:21:35 Felix Miata wrote:
Did you consider that maybe YaST or manual intervention would be required to properly replace Grub Legacy with Grub2? Were you not aware that for recommended upgrades that Grub2 would not by default replace Grub Legacy if Grub Legacy was the installed bootloader?
I did not want to replace, but grub simply does not work with the new release. Anyway, the problem was not with grub. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 2013-12-06 12:34 (GMT+0400) Ilya Chernykh composed:
grub simply does not work with the new release.
Grub Legacy boots all 18 openSUSE 13.1, all 4 openSUSE 13.2, and dozens of older openSUSE installations here. Grub Legacy boots all my Fedora installations, all but one of my Mageia installations, and everything else here except for one Kubuntu that I let install Grub2 just to see how it behaves. So quite simply, Grub Legacy works here. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Friday 06 December 2013 13:15:29 Felix Miata wrote:
Grub Legacy boots all 18 openSUSE 13.1, all 4 openSUSE 13.2, and dozens of older openSUSE installations here. Grub Legacy boots all my Fedora installations, all but one of my Mageia installations, and everything else here except for one Kubuntu that I let install Grub2 just to see how it behaves. So quite simply, Grub Legacy works here.
But it did not work for me. I was left with the Grub prompt. And I am not alone, linux.org.ru forum is full of stories of people who upgraded to 13.1 and were left with grub prompt. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 1:23 PM, Ilya Chernykh <anixxsus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday 06 December 2013 13:15:29 Felix Miata wrote:
Grub Legacy boots all 18 openSUSE 13.1, all 4 openSUSE 13.2, and dozens of older openSUSE installations here. Grub Legacy boots all my Fedora installations, all but one of my Mageia installations, and everything else here except for one Kubuntu that I let install Grub2 just to see how it behaves. So quite simply, Grub Legacy works here.
But it did not work for me. I was left with the Grub prompt. And I am not alone, linux.org.ru forum is full of stories of people who upgraded to 13.1 and were left with grub prompt.
It would be useful (and helpful to others) to provide links to at least some of stories. May be they provide more information than your horror story ... :) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 2013-12-06 13:23 (GMT+0400) Ilya Chernykh composed:
Felix Miata wrote:
... Grub Legacy works here.
But it did not work for me. I was left with the Grub prompt.
So far in this thread you haven't given enough information about your upgrade process for anyone to be helpful. Several have asked for details of what you did, yet you've provided nearly none. All we know so far is you upgraded to 13.1 using zypper, had trouble with video and booting, and managed to fix it yourself.
And I am not alone, linux.org.ru forum is full of stories of people who upgraded to 13.1 and were left with grub prompt.
Those who don't understand Russian aren't likely to be able to help with those, but maybe you can if you provide enough info for anyone to figure out what happened to you and why. If in doubt, provide too much detail rather than too little. At the very least, anyone who has not yet upgraded and who currently has Grub Legacy installed, and working nicely, and plans to use zypper to upgrade, should set a lock on Grub2 so that booting will not be disrupted by whatever troublesome process is occurring when a switch to Grub2 is attempted during an upgrade. Until whatever the problem is can be determined, any who wish to switch from a working Grub to Grub2 should either do it before upgrading, or wait until after upgrade succeeds, and do it as a trackable separate process. Something else to make life easier at upgrade time is to not upgrade. Instead, have at least two installations, one that is kept as fallback, the other as target for the new. The original should be kept undisturbed until the new has all the bad bugs fixed and can be counted on for normal use. Only after success is complete with the new should the old be repurposed as a target for the next new installation. Doing this form of multibooting instead of relying on live media repair booting can be very much easier. HDs are so big now there is no good reason not to have at least two separate operating system installations per HD, not a whole lot unlike the multiversion process used with openSUSE kernels. Most of my HDs have at least 5 operating systems, many more than a dozen, and again, virtually all happily and reliably being booted via Grub Legacy with openSUSE's highly competent and attractive Gfxboot. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 12/5/2013 10:21 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
Did you consider that maybe YaST or manual intervention would be required to properly replace Grub Legacy with Grub2? Were you not aware that for recommended upgrades that Grub2 would not by default replace Grub Legacy if Grub Legacy was the installed bootloader?
I think all these operations are not well suitable to an average user.
I think he sorta said that: On 12/5/2013 4:22 PM, Ilya Chernykh wrote: * * -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
I think all these operations are not well suitable to an average user.
I think he sorta said that: On 12/5/2013 4:22 PM, Ilya Chernykh wrote: *
* Ilya-- I too upgraded to Grub and or no OS found. On a dare I used the Seatools to erase track 0 and all went well afterwords. Hope this might help. Tom -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Ilya Chernykh wrote:
I have tried to upgrade to 13.1.
Hint - this doesn't really belong here, opensuse-general would be more appropriate. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (5.1°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - dedicated server rental in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
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