[opensuse-factory] Yast Package Patterns / Categories Discussion
Hi all ! I would like to point to current problems with Yast so called "Patterns" - maybe better name would be "Categories": 1.There is a topic named: "Primary Functions" I think it must be renamed to "Server Functions". 2. And some additional services should be added there - such as telnet-server, SSH server and FreeNX terminal server. 3. Also, I believe that network admins deserve a section dedicated for them, starting with several tools such as: Wireshark, Quagga, Nmap and please.... add Webmin too. (currently Webmin is not part of SUSE at all) -Any thoughts? -Alexey. 9.9.2006. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Alexey Eremenko wrote:
Hi all !
I would like to point to current problems with Yast so called "Patterns" - maybe better name would be "Categories":
1.There is a topic named: "Primary Functions" I think it must be renamed to "Server Functions".
2. And some additional services should be added there - such as telnet-server, SSH server and FreeNX terminal server.
3. Also, I believe that network admins deserve a section dedicated for them, starting with several tools such as: Wireshark, Quagga, Nmap and please.... add Webmin too. (currently Webmin is not part of SUSE at all)
-Any thoughts?
Many thoughts. The Patterns will stay named that way, but as it is possible to combine them with others, there is need to use some names for different levels, combinations, ways to sort them. I tried to establish naming starting with hardware categories, with open status of usage categories, which would be top-down way to define them, Klaus Kempf proposed opposite way, to start combining packages, which would be bottom-up way to create patterns. There is nothing wrong with either way, and actually both combined will give fast results (bottom-up), that 10.2 needs as it is on schedule, and thorough coverage (top-down) that need some time to be created. "Primary Functions" is good name that should stay at the top of Server, Engineering Workstation, Office Computer, Entertainment, Administration Station and other second level patterns. I hope that they will add them as appropriate definitions come up. -- Regards, Rajko. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
"Alexey Eremenko"
Hi all !
I would like to point to current problems with Yast so called "Patterns" - maybe better name would be "Categories":
1.There is a topic named: "Primary Functions" I think it must be renamed to "Server Functions".
Might be.
2. And some additional services should be added there - such as telnet-server, SSH server and FreeNX terminal server.
SSH server is part of the base configuration. I'll think about this a bit more and would like to hear others comment as well.
3. Also, I believe that network admins deserve a section dedicated for them, starting with several tools such as: Wireshark, Quagga, Nmap and please.... add Webmin too. (currently Webmin is not part of SUSE at
Do you have a complete list?
all)
Webmin had too many problems in the past and did not really work within SUSE. Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
Søndag 10 september 2006 10:23 skrev Andreas Jaeger:
3. Also, I believe that network admins deserve a section dedicated for them, starting with several tools such as: Wireshark, Quagga, Nmap and please.... add Webmin too. (currently Webmin is not part of SUSE at
Do you have a complete list?
I like the idea. Don't have a complete list - but arpwatch should be there too. Perhaps also knmap. Martin --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Do you have a complete list?
I have no complete list, but I know that Debian also has "sink" and "mrtg" packages. Those packages are NOT part of SUSE. "mtr" is another package that would be good to add to the network admins category. Already part of SUSE. I have no complete list as of yet, because 1) not all packages I use for my job. 2) not all packages are part of SUSE. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
"Alexey Eremenko"
3. Also, I believe that network admins deserve a section dedicated for them, starting with several tools such as: Wireshark, Quagga, Nmap and please.... add Webmin too. (currently Webmin is not part of SUSE at all)
Added now, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
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Rajko M