[opensuse-factory] 10.3 Beta-1 on low-end machines?
Earlier versions of SuSE / OpenSuSE ran (albeit slowly) on low-end machines - YaST installation detecting the lack of RAM and requesting swap before continuing. Tried 10.3 Beta-1 (KDE single CD) on one such (Pentium-1, 133 MHz, 80 M RAM, 2G HDD with swap already prepared - runs OSL 10.0 at present). Install (standard and 'safe settings' tried) aborts with a kernel panic 'out of memory' shortly after 'moving into tmpfs', no attempt to ask for swap. Is this expected / intended behaviour? - in which case it might be nice to warn potential users! Very little on the wiki about minimum spec... -- Cheers Richard (MQ) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007, richard (MQ) wrote:
Earlier versions of SuSE / OpenSuSE ran (albeit slowly) on low-end machines - YaST installation detecting the lack of RAM and requesting swap before continuing.
Tried 10.3 Beta-1 (KDE single CD) on one such (Pentium-1, 133 MHz, 80 M RAM, 2G HDD with swap already prepared - runs OSL 10.0 at present). Install (standard and 'safe settings' tried) aborts with a kernel panic 'out of memory' shortly after 'moving into tmpfs', no attempt to ask for swap.
Is this expected / intended behaviour? - in which case it might be nice to warn potential users! Very little on the wiki about minimum spec...
Does booting with 'addswap=-1' help? Steffen --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Steffen Winterfeldt wrote:
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007, richard (MQ) wrote:
Earlier versions of SuSE / OpenSuSE ran (albeit slowly) on low-end machines - YaST installation detecting the lack of RAM and requesting swap before continuing.
Tried 10.3 Beta-1 (KDE single CD) on one such (Pentium-1, 133 MHz, 80 M RAM, 2G HDD with swap already prepared - runs OSL 10.0 at present). Install (standard and 'safe settings' tried) aborts with a kernel panic 'out of memory' shortly after 'moving into tmpfs', no attempt to ask for swap.
Is this expected / intended behaviour? - in which case it might be nice to warn potential users! Very little on the wiki about minimum spec...
Does booting with 'addswap=-1' help?
Steffen, Thanks for the suggestion but no joy. I tried this both in standard and 'safe settings' installation, also 'rescue system' - still does a kernel panic at the same place. Are there any other options to this boot parameter? Where would I find a list? -- Cheers Richard (MQ) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007, richard (MQ) wrote:
Steffen Winterfeldt wrote:
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007, richard (MQ) wrote:
Earlier versions of SuSE / OpenSuSE ran (albeit slowly) on low-end machines - YaST installation detecting the lack of RAM and requesting swap before continuing.
Tried 10.3 Beta-1 (KDE single CD) on one such (Pentium-1, 133 MHz, 80 M RAM, 2G HDD with swap already prepared - runs OSL 10.0 at present). Install (standard and 'safe settings' tried) aborts with a kernel panic 'out of memory' shortly after 'moving into tmpfs', no attempt to ask for swap.
Is this expected / intended behaviour? - in which case it might be nice to warn potential users! Very little on the wiki about minimum spec...
Does booting with 'addswap=-1' help?
Steffen,
Thanks for the suggestion but no joy. I tried this both in standard and 'safe settings' installation, also 'rescue system' - still does a kernel panic at the same place.
Are there any other options to this boot parameter? Where would I find a list?
It's at http://en.opensuse.org/Linuxrc. You might try '_tmpfs=0'. Steffen --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007, Steffen Winterfeldt wrote:
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007, richard (MQ) wrote:
Thanks for the suggestion but no joy. I tried this both in standard and 'safe settings' installation, also 'rescue system' - still does a kernel panic at the same place.
Are there any other options to this boot parameter? Where would I find a list?
It's at http://en.opensuse.org/Linuxrc.
You might try '_tmpfs=0'.
Uhm, the initrd is really that big now. :-( (Though the above option helps.) Richard, please make a bugreport and assign to me. Steffen --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Steffen Winterfeldt wrote:
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007, Steffen Winterfeldt wrote:
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007, richard (MQ) wrote:
Thanks for the suggestion but no joy. I tried this both in standard and 'safe settings' installation, also 'rescue system' - still does a kernel panic at the same place.
Are there any other options to this boot parameter? Where would I find a list? It's at http://en.opensuse.org/Linuxrc.
You might try '_tmpfs=0'.
Uhm, the initrd is really that big now. :-( (Though the above option helps.)
Richard, please make a bugreport and assign to me.
Thanks Steffen, Bug #303610 Many thanks also for the link - I didn't know most of these options! -- Cheers Richard (MQ) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
richard (MQ) wrote:
Earlier versions of SuSE / OpenSuSE ran (albeit slowly) on low-end machines - YaST installation detecting the lack of RAM and requesting swap before continuing.
Tried 10.3 Beta-1 (KDE single CD) on one such (Pentium-1, 133 MHz, 80 M RAM, 2G HDD with swap already prepared - runs OSL 10.0 at present). Install (standard and 'safe settings' tried) aborts with a kernel panic 'out of memory' shortly after 'moving into tmpfs', no attempt to ask for swap.
Is this expected / intended behaviour? - in which case it might be nice to warn potential users! Very little on the wiki about minimum spec...
I could run the kde beta1 cd live with only 128Mb ram on a PIII 750 computer, not really usable, but starts (the same one runs without problem a 10.2) jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://gourmandises.orangeblog.fr/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
jdd wrote:
richard (MQ) wrote:
Earlier versions of SuSE / OpenSuSE ran (albeit slowly) on low-end machines - YaST installation detecting the lack of RAM and requesting swap before continuing.
Tried 10.3 Beta-1 (KDE single CD) on one such (Pentium-1, 133 MHz, 80 M RAM, 2G HDD with swap already prepared - runs OSL 10.0 at present). Install (standard and 'safe settings' tried) aborts with a kernel panic 'out of memory' shortly after 'moving into tmpfs', no attempt to ask for swap.
Is this expected / intended behaviour? - in which case it might be nice to warn potential users! Very little on the wiki about minimum spec...
I could run the kde beta1 cd live with only 128Mb ram on a PIII 750 computer, not really usable, but starts (the same one runs without problem a 10.2)
Please see bug 303610 and Steffen Winterfeldt's explanation https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=303610 I don't see it on a Pentium-1 133MHz with 144M RAM. It seems the threshold is ~ 100 MBytes I'm planning to add a bit to the Wiki regarding low-end hardware - based on the comments in this bug - when I've worked out how to... -- Cheers Richard (MQ) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Richard (MQ) wrote:
jdd wrote:
richard (MQ) wrote:
Earlier versions of SuSE / OpenSuSE ran (albeit slowly) on low-end machines - YaST installation detecting the lack of RAM and requesting swap before continuing.
Tried 10.3 Beta-1 (KDE single CD) on one such (Pentium-1, 133 MHz, 80 M RAM, 2G HDD with swap already prepared - runs OSL 10.0 at present). Install (standard and 'safe settings' tried) aborts with a kernel panic 'out of memory' shortly after 'moving into tmpfs', no attempt to ask for swap.
Is this expected / intended behaviour? - in which case it might be nice to warn potential users! Very little on the wiki about minimum spec...
I could run the kde beta1 cd live with only 128Mb ram on a PIII 750 computer, not really usable, but starts (the same one runs without problem a 10.2)
Please see bug 303610 and Steffen Winterfeldt's explanation https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=303610
I don't see it on a Pentium-1 133MHz with 144M RAM. It seems the threshold is ~ 100 MBytes
I'm planning to add a bit to the Wiki regarding low-end hardware - based on the comments in this bug - when I've worked out how to...
Added at http://en.opensuse.org/Installation_with_Little_Memory I'm sure someone will improve on it... -- Cheers Richard (MQ) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
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