[opensuse-factory] Do we really need the gpm package (general purpose mouse for console)
Does it still make sense to ship this package and compile our packages against it or should it get dropped? It's build required by the following packages: aalib brltty dialog installation-images loki_setup xemacs emacs ncurses vim mc and thus gets installed on each and every system. -- Andreas Jaeger, Program Manager openSUSE, aj@{novell.com,opensuse.org} Twitter: jaegerandi | Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
* Andreas Jaeger (aj@novell.com) [20100907 13:47]:
Does it still make sense to ship this package and compile our packages against it or should it get dropped?
Don't drop it! gmp is the only way to get mouse support when not running X and I'd say there are a number of reasons why you don't have/want X. Philipp -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 2:17 PM, Philipp Thomas <pth@suse.de> wrote:
* Andreas Jaeger (aj@novell.com) [20100907 13:47]:
Does it still make sense to ship this package and compile our packages against it or should it get dropped?
Don't drop it! gmp is the only way to get mouse support when not running X and I'd say there are a number of reasons why you don't have/want X.
+1 -- Cheers, //richard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 07 Sep 2010 14:17:01 richard -rw- weinberger wrote:
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 2:17 PM, Philipp Thomas <pth@suse.de> wrote:
* Andreas Jaeger (aj@novell.com) [20100907 13:47]:
Does it still make sense to ship this package and compile our packages against it or should it get dropped?
Don't drop it! gmp is the only way to get mouse support when not running X and I'd say there are a number of reasons why you don't have/want X.
+1 +1
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2010-09-07 13:47, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
Does it still make sense to ship this package and compile our packages against it or should it get dropped?
It makes a lot of sense. It is what I use to paste lines from help files and such when repairing things in text mode. Or paste from one file to another on different virtual terminals. Yes, it is indeed needed. Only that newcomers may not know it - they don't even know that text mode is useful. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.2 x86_64 "Emerald" GM (Elessar)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkyGMIoACgkQU92UU+smfQVRXQCfR2PxHJU/yKCah7XNK5dPlCIb O+4AoJRvgttufamId673sdM4/V19Atru =GzFP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Tue, Sep 07, 2010 at 01:47:23PM +0200, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
Does it still make sense to ship this package and compile our packages against it or should it get dropped?
I wouldn't mind if the Gnome packages got dropped, but please leave gpm in - I use it on a daily basis ;-) Ciao Joerg -- Joerg Mayer <jmayer@loplof.de> We are stuck with technology when what we really want is just stuff that works. Some say that should read Microsoft instead of technology. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Andreas Jaeger wrote:
Does it still make sense to ship this package and compile our packages against it or should it get dropped?
Note that libgpm is not only useful on the Linux console in connection with the gpm daemon but also provides transparent mouse support for applications running in xterm. cu Ludwig -- (o_ Ludwig Nussel //\ V_/_ http://www.suse.de/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nuernberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2010-09-07 13:47, Andreas Jaeger wrote: I wrote a reply, but it did not get to the list. Anti-spam filter? I send it again. On 2010-09-07 13:47, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
Does it still make sense to ship this package and compile our packages against it or should it get dropped?
It makes a lot of sense. It is what I use to paste lines from help files and such when repairing things in text mode. Or paste from one file to another on different virtual terminals. Yes, it is indeed needed. Only that newcomers may not know it - they don't even know that text mode is useful. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.2 x86_64 "Emerald" GM (Elessar)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkyGP8YACgkQU92UU+smfQXQhACgkcQHhs54fvl2aM0MJh6C1x05 E9EAn1pbE87rmWo76M/jmXPWhF7vFDvo =d2mo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2010-09-07 13:47, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
Does it still make sense to ship this package and compile our packages against it or should it get dropped?
I have replied twice to this email and twice my email has been removed or something from the mail list. I think the SUSE antispammer is playing bad tricks on me. Again. Third attempt, different from address. On 2010-09-07 13:47, Andreas Jaeger wrote: I wrote a reply, but it did not get to the list. Anti-spam filter? I send it again. On 2010-09-07 13:47, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
Does it still make sense to ship this package and compile our packages against it or should it get dropped? It makes a lot of sense.
It is what I use to paste lines from help files and such when repairing things in text mode. Or paste from one file to another on different virtual terminals. Yes, it is indeed needed. Only that newcomers may not know it - they don't even know that text mode is useful. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.2 x86_64 "Emerald" GM (Elessar)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkyGQPcACgkQU92UU+smfQW1CACdEGsC3sUzfuXlB7VdPiyx8hvH qc0AoI/U2i0jrBZKo7m7cZvEOStannlg =DPKG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 07 September 2010 13:47:23 Andreas Jaeger wrote:
Does it still make sense to ship this package and compile our packages against it or should it get dropped?
It's build required by the following packages:
aalib brltty dialog installation-images loki_setup xemacs emacs ncurses vim mc
and thus gets installed on each and every system.
Ok, I'm not dropping it. I've heard enough reasons to keep it ;) I've now checked the requirements and removed it where it's not needed at all - and split up a devel package. Btw. we still have 1.20.1 and 1.20.6 is out. If any of you heavy gpm users want to update and test, this would be appreciated, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Program Manager openSUSE, aj@{novell.com,opensuse.org} Twitter: jaegerandi | Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
* Andreas Jaeger (aj@novell.com) [20100907 16:01]:
If any of you heavy gpm users want to update and test, this would be appreciated,
It's going to be quite a bit of work as the code got heavily restructured but I'm giving it a try. Philipp -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
* Philipp Thomas (pth@suse.de) [20100907 19:50]:
It's going to be quite a bit of work as the code got heavily restructured but I'm giving it a try.
And it's done! Anybody that want's to test gpm-1.2.6 take it from Base:System. Philipp -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 08 September 2010 20:08:47 Philipp Thomas wrote:
* Philipp Thomas (pth@suse.de) [20100907 19:50]:
It's going to be quite a bit of work as the code got heavily restructured but I'm giving it a try.
And it's done! Anybody that want's to test gpm-1.2.6 take it from Base:System.
Thanks a lot! Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Program Manager openSUSE, aj@{novell.com,opensuse.org} Twitter: jaegerandi | Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
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richard -rw- weinberger