[opensuse-factory] Feature Request for 11.4

Peter Nikolic

2 Dec 2010 2 Dec '10

08:17

Hi . This is by the way of an feature request . I as many other do have a laptop that has wired and wireless networking as standard but sometimes i need to use a Mobile broadband dongal USB what is needed is an easy way to completely stop the wired and wireless networking to use the mobile system , The reason for this is that if wireless is disconnected but enabled then you can not get a route via the mobile connection you have to completely disable the wireless to use the mobile and easy way to do this is a much needed addition a means of picking which networking device is active . Pete . -- Powered by openSUSE 11.3 (x86_64) Kernel: 2.6.34.7-0.5-desktop KDE Development Platform: 4.4.4 (KDE 4.4.4) "release 3" 08:12 up 12 days 15:34, 4 users, load average: 0.00, 0.05, 0.02 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

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Per Jessen

2 Dec 2 Dec

08:36

Peter Nikolic wrote:

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I as many other do have a laptop that has wired and wireless networking as standard but sometimes i need to use a Mobile broadband dongal USB what is needed is an easy way to completely stop the wired and wireless networking to use the mobile system , The reason for this is that if wireless is disconnected but enabled then you can not get a route via the mobile connection you have to completely disable the wireless to use the mobile and easy way to do this is a much needed addition a means of picking which networking device is active .

Isn't this a job for the NetworkManager? -- Per Jessen, Zürich (-1.4°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Peter Nikolic

14:03

On Thursday 02 Dec 2010 08:36:26 Per Jessen wrote:

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Peter Nikolic wrote:

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I as many other do have a laptop that has wired and wireless networking as standard but sometimes i need to use a Mobile broadband dongal USB what is needed is an easy way to completely stop the wired and wireless networking to use the mobile system , The reason for this is that if wireless is disconnected but enabled then you can not get a route via the mobile connection you have to completely disable the wireless to use the mobile and easy way to do this is a much needed addition a means of picking which networking device is active .

Isn't this a job for the NetworkManager?

It fails miserably if it is supposed to do it always has done , It would seem there is need for a complete re-think of the networking control system it has been of questionable quality for a while now but this issue has highlighted yet another issue that needs resolution Pete . -- Powered by openSUSE 11.3 (x86_64) Kernel: 2.6.34.7-0.5-desktop KDE Development Platform: 4.4.4 (KDE 4.4.4) "release 3" 13:59 up 12 days 21:22, 4 users, load average: 0.32, 0.13, 0.06 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Greg KH

16:09

On Thu, Dec 02, 2010 at 02:03:38PM +0000, Peter Nikolic wrote:

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On Thursday 02 Dec 2010 08:36:26 Per Jessen wrote:

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Peter Nikolic wrote:

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I as many other do have a laptop that has wired and wireless networking as standard but sometimes i need to use a Mobile broadband dongal USB what is needed is an easy way to completely stop the wired and wireless networking to use the mobile system , The reason for this is that if wireless is disconnected but enabled then you can not get a route via the mobile connection you have to completely disable the wireless to use the mobile and easy way to do this is a much needed addition a means of picking which networking device is active .

Isn't this a job for the NetworkManager?

It fails miserably if it is supposed to do it always has done ,

Are you sure? It works just fine here for me in my testing with my devices, I do this all the time with my laptop. Just disable wireless from the icon menu and all should be fine.

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It would seem there is need for a complete re-think of the networking control system it has been of questionable quality for a while now but this issue has highlighted yet another issue that needs resolution

What, you want something like ConMan? Heh, good luck :) thanks, greg k-h -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Peter Nikolic

5 Dec 5 Dec

13:41

On Thursday 02 Dec 2010 16:09:49 Greg KH wrote:

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On Thu, Dec 02, 2010 at 02:03:38PM +0000, Peter Nikolic wrote:

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On Thursday 02 Dec 2010 08:36:26 Per Jessen wrote:

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Peter Nikolic wrote:

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I as many other do have a laptop that has wired and wireless networking as standard but sometimes i need to use a Mobile broadband dongal USB what is needed is an easy way to completely stop the wired and wireless networking to use the mobile system , The reason for this is that if wireless is disconnected but enabled then you can not get a route via the mobile connection you have to completely disable the wireless to use the mobile and easy way to do this is a much needed addition a means of picking which networking device is active .

Isn't this a job for the NetworkManager?

It fails miserably if it is supposed to do it always has done ,

Are you sure? It works just fine here for me in my testing with my devices, I do this all the time with my laptop.

Just disable wireless from the icon menu and all should be fine.

Nope no good here they only way is to actually go into yast and delete the info for the wireless device logout login then the dongal works fine

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It would seem there is need for a complete re-think of the networking control system it has been of questionable quality for a while now but this issue has highlighted yet another issue that needs resolution

What, you want something like ConMan? Heh, good luck :)

Well it seems it must be in reality because people are not going to want to go thru the hoops i have to jump just to use their USB Dongal are they ? .. Pete . -- Powered by openSUSE 11.3 (x86_64) Kernel: 2.6.34.7-0.5-desktop KDE Development Platform: 4.4.4 (KDE 4.4.4) "release 3" 13:36 up 1 day 17:04, 4 users, load average: 0.49, 0.87, 0.78 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Greg KH

16:43

On Sun, Dec 05, 2010 at 01:41:11PM +0000, Peter Nikolic wrote:

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On Thursday 02 Dec 2010 16:09:49 Greg KH wrote:

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On Thu, Dec 02, 2010 at 02:03:38PM +0000, Peter Nikolic wrote:

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On Thursday 02 Dec 2010 08:36:26 Per Jessen wrote:

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Peter Nikolic wrote:

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I as many other do have a laptop that has wired and wireless networking as standard but sometimes i need to use a Mobile broadband dongal USB what is needed is an easy way to completely stop the wired and wireless networking to use the mobile system , The reason for this is that if wireless is disconnected but enabled then you can not get a route via the mobile connection you have to completely disable the wireless to use the mobile and easy way to do this is a much needed addition a means of picking which networking device is active .

Isn't this a job for the NetworkManager?

It fails miserably if it is supposed to do it always has done ,

Are you sure? It works just fine here for me in my testing with my devices, I do this all the time with my laptop.

Just disable wireless from the icon menu and all should be fine.

Nope no good here they only way is to actually go into yast and delete the info for the wireless device logout login then the dongal works fine

Ick, that's not good. Have you tried the newer NetworkManager version in Factory and not the one in 11.3? If this still doesn't work, try filing a bug against upstream NetworkManager. good luck, greg k-h -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

C

17:05

New subject: [opensuse-factory] Feature Request for 11.4

On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 17:43, Greg KH wrote:

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Just disable wireless from the icon menu and all should be fine.

Nope no good here they only way is to actually go into yast and delete the info for the wireless device logout login then the dongal works fine

Ick, that's not good. Have you tried the newer NetworkManager version in Factory and not the one in 11.3?

If this still doesn't work, try filing a bug against upstream NetworkManager.

That does seem a bit over the top. I've only had to disable the WiFi from the NetworkManager (Gnome, KDE4, openSUSE, Ubuntu... all the same procedure) to get the UMTS to work. C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Peter Nikolic

17:27

On Sunday 05 Dec 2010 16:43:04 Greg KH wrote:

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On Sun, Dec 05, 2010 at 01:41:11PM +0000, Peter Nikolic wrote:

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On Thursday 02 Dec 2010 16:09:49 Greg KH wrote:

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On Thu, Dec 02, 2010 at 02:03:38PM +0000, Peter Nikolic wrote:

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On Thursday 02 Dec 2010 08:36:26 Per Jessen wrote:

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Peter Nikolic wrote:

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I as many other do have a laptop that has wired and wireless networking as standard but sometimes i need to use a Mobile broadband dongal USB what is needed is an easy way to completely stop the wired and wireless networking to use the mobile system , The reason for this is that if wireless is disconnected but enabled then you can not get a route via the mobile connection you have to completely disable the wireless to use the mobile and easy way to do this is a much needed addition a means of picking which networking device is active .

Isn't this a job for the NetworkManager?

It fails miserably if it is supposed to do it always has done ,

Are you sure? It works just fine here for me in my testing with my devices, I do this all the time with my laptop.

Just disable wireless from the icon menu and all should be fine.

Nope no good here they only way is to actually go into yast and delete the info for the wireless device logout login then the dongal works fine

Ick, that's not good. Have you tried the newer NetworkManager version in Factory and not the one in 11.3?

If this still doesn't work, try filing a bug against upstream NetworkManager.

good luck,

greg k-h

Hi .. I'll have a try of the newer NetworkManager version see it that makes any difference I wonder if it is partly due to this being a vodafone dongal and having to use the vodafone connect program i could not get UMTSMON to work with it Pete . -- Powered by openSUSE 11.3 (x86_64) Kernel: 2.6.34.7-0.5-desktop KDE Development Platform: 4.4.4 (KDE 4.4.4) "release 3" 17:25 up 1 day 20:52, 4 users, load average: 0.57, 0.70, 0.75 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

C

17:48

New subject: [opensuse-factory] Feature Request for 11.4

On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 18:27, Peter Nikolic wrote:

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I'll have a try of the newer NetworkManager version see it that makes any difference I wonder if it is partly due to this being a vodafone dongal and having to use the vodafone connect program i could not get UMTSMON to work with it

I've got the Vodafone K3565-Z UMTS stick and the software I'm using is off the Betavine website... I'm guessing it the same device you're using. C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Peter Nikolic

18:29

New subject: [opensuse-factory] Feature Request for 11.4

On Sunday 05 Dec 2010 17:48:03 C wrote:

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On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 18:27, Peter Nikolic wrote:

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I'll have a try of the newer NetworkManager version see it that makes any difference I wonder if it is partly due to this being a vodafone dongal and having to use the vodafone connect program i could not get UMTSMON to work with it

I've got the Vodafone K3565-Z UMTS stick and the software I'm using is off the Betavine website... I'm guessing it the same device you're using.

C.

yup thats the one and the same software and the 11.3 is a complete fresh install because i tried to update KDE and wound up with a totally fritzed system so completely re did the disc and started again Pete . -- Powered by openSUSE 11.3 (x86_64) Kernel: 2.6.34.7-0.5-desktop KDE Development Platform: 4.4.4 (KDE 4.4.4) "release 3" 18:27 up 1 day 21:54, 4 users, load average: 0.92, 0.96, 0.83 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Greg KH

18:37

On Sun, Dec 05, 2010 at 05:27:46PM +0000, Peter Nikolic wrote:

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On Sunday 05 Dec 2010 16:43:04 Greg KH wrote:

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On Sun, Dec 05, 2010 at 01:41:11PM +0000, Peter Nikolic wrote:

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On Thursday 02 Dec 2010 16:09:49 Greg KH wrote:

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On Thu, Dec 02, 2010 at 02:03:38PM +0000, Peter Nikolic wrote:

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On Thursday 02 Dec 2010 08:36:26 Per Jessen wrote:

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Peter Nikolic wrote: > I as many other do have a laptop that has wired and wireless > networking as standard but sometimes i need to use a Mobile > broadband dongal USB > what is needed is an easy way to completely stop the > wired and wireless networking to use the mobile system , The > reason for this is that if wireless is disconnected but enabled > then you can not get a route via the mobile connection you have > to completely disable the wireless to use the mobile and easy > way to do this is a much needed addition a means of picking > which networking device is active .

Isn't this a job for the NetworkManager?

It fails miserably if it is supposed to do it always has done ,

Are you sure? It works just fine here for me in my testing with my devices, I do this all the time with my laptop.

Just disable wireless from the icon menu and all should be fine.

Nope no good here they only way is to actually go into yast and delete the info for the wireless device logout login then the dongal works fine

Ick, that's not good. Have you tried the newer NetworkManager version in Factory and not the one in 11.3?

If this still doesn't work, try filing a bug against upstream NetworkManager.

good luck,

greg k-h

Hi ..

I'll have a try of the newer NetworkManager version see it that makes any difference I wonder if it is partly due to this being a vodafone dongal and having to use the vodafone connect program i could not get UMTSMON to work with it

If you are using some third-party software for your device, take up the issue with them, not us, there's nothing we can do about it. good luck, greg k-h -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Peter Nikolic

19:35

On Sunday 05 Dec 2010 18:37:46 Greg KH wrote:

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On Sun, Dec 05, 2010 at 05:27:46PM +0000, Peter Nikolic wrote:

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On Sunday 05 Dec 2010 16:43:04 Greg KH wrote:

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On Sun, Dec 05, 2010 at 01:41:11PM +0000, Peter Nikolic wrote:

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On Thursday 02 Dec 2010 16:09:49 Greg KH wrote:

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On Thu, Dec 02, 2010 at 02:03:38PM +0000, Peter Nikolic wrote:

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On Thursday 02 Dec 2010 08:36:26 Per Jessen wrote: > Peter Nikolic wrote: > > I as many other do have a laptop that has wired and > > wireless networking as standard but sometimes i need to use > > a Mobile broadband dongal USB > > what is needed is an easy way to completely stop the > > wired and wireless networking to use the mobile system , > > The reason for this is that if wireless is disconnected but > > enabled then you can not get a route via the mobile > > connection you have to completely disable the wireless to > > use the mobile and easy way to do this is a much needed > > addition a means of picking which networking device is > > active . > > Isn't this a job for the NetworkManager?

It fails miserably if it is supposed to do it always has done ,

Are you sure? It works just fine here for me in my testing with my devices, I do this all the time with my laptop.

Just disable wireless from the icon menu and all should be fine.

Nope no good here they only way is to actually go into yast and delete the info for the wireless device logout login then the dongal works fine

Ick, that's not good. Have you tried the newer NetworkManager version in Factory and not the one in 11.3?

If this still doesn't work, try filing a bug against upstream NetworkManager.

good luck,

greg k-h

Hi ..

I'll have a try of the newer NetworkManager version see it that makes any difference I wonder if it is partly due to this being a vodafone dongal and having to use the vodafone connect program i could not get UMTSMON to work with it

If you are using some third-party software for your device, take up the issue with them, not us, there's nothing we can do about it.

good luck,

greg k-h

I have to say comments like that are about as much use as a chocolate teapot in a transport Cafe This appears to be a problem that only afflicts opensuse so i do believe the tables are turned . Have Fun Pete . -- Powered by openSUSE 11.3 (x86_64) Kernel: 2.6.34.7-0.5-desktop KDE Development Platform: 4.4.4 (KDE 4.4.4) "release 3" 19:33 up 1 day 23:00, 4 users, load average: 0.63, 0.74, 0.69 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Greg KH

6 Dec 6 Dec

16:03

On Sun, Dec 05, 2010 at 07:35:15PM +0000, Peter Nikolic wrote:

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This appears to be a problem that only afflicts opensuse so i do believe the tables are turned .

Then file a bug with the provider of the third-party software you are using. How can we fix something that we have no idea what the code does or contains? Again, this all works just fine for me, with my devices, without any third-party software on openSUSE 11.3. good luck, greg k-h -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Peter Nikolic

19:06

On Monday 06 Dec 2010 16:03:13 Greg KH wrote:

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On Sun, Dec 05, 2010 at 07:35:15PM +0000, Peter Nikolic wrote:

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This appears to be a problem that only afflicts opensuse so i do believe the tables are turned .

Then file a bug with the provider of the third-party software you are using. How can we fix something that we have no idea what the code does or contains?

Again, this all works just fine for me, with my devices, without any third-party software on openSUSE 11.3.

good luck,

greg k-h

I tell you what it is a mighty good job you dont work for me you would be out and down the road so quick it's untrue with attitude like that I always though you were one of the better blokes there it seems i was wrong big time .. If you noticed it also is the same using the wvdial that comes with the distro so it obviously is NOT the third party software and is obviously a problem with 11.3 and it's inability to accept routes via ppp when an wireless route has been spotted even thou it is not in use . pete . -- Powered by openSUSE 11.3 (x86_64) Kernel: 2.6.34.7-0.5-desktop KDE Development Platform: 4.4.4 (KDE 4.4.4) "release 3" 19:02 up 2 days 22:30, 4 users, load average: 1.26, 1.05, 0.84 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Stefan Seyfried

19:29

On Mon, 6 Dec 2010 19:06:47 +0000 Peter Nikolic wrote:

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If you noticed it also is the same using the wvdial that comes with the distro so it obviously is NOT the third party software and is obviously a problem with 11.3 and it's inability to accept routes via ppp when an wireless route has been spotted even thou it is not in use .

If you are using non-networkmanager networking together with networkmanager, you better should know what you are doing. Period. Disable networkmanager and the wvdial will work. One can like this or not, for quite some time I actually hated it, but then I tried to "fix" it, just to find out that there is quite a reason that networkmanager insists on being the only one managing network - everything else leads to total chaos. So instead of insisting on driving your card with wvdial, you should spend your time fixing networkmanager - that's a much better investment. BTDT. -- Stefan Seyfried "Any ideas, John?" "Well, surrounding them's out." -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Greg KH

19:52

On Mon, Dec 06, 2010 at 07:06:47PM +0000, Peter Nikolic wrote:

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If you noticed it also is the same using the wvdial that comes with the distro so it obviously is NOT the third party software and is obviously a problem with 11.3 and it's inability to accept routes via ppp when an wireless route has been spotted even thou it is not in use .

Are you sure you aren't using the third-party tool with wvdial? I didn't get the impression that this was the case. If so, then yes, wvdial needs to be fixed, file a bug please. thanks, greg k-h -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Stefan Seyfried

21:17

On Mon, 6 Dec 2010 11:52:23 -0800 Greg KH wrote:

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If so, then yes, wvdial needs to be fixed, file a bug please.

I am pretty sure that wvdial works fine when NetworkManager is disabled and netconfig is enabled. NetworkManager does not play well with other network-managing tools. And IIUC, that's a deliberately made Design decision. You can get it to work together, BTDT, see e.g. http://seife.kernalert.de/blog/2008/12/11/using-dialup-with-111-if-networkma... (and the followup on http://seife.kernalert.de/blog/2009/02/26/follow-up-using-dialup-on-111-with...), but it's definitely not for people who don't know what they are doing ;-) And for me, fortunately, this is all history since NetworkManager (with nm-applet, not knetworkmanager) supports both my ericsson-mbm 3G card and Bluetooth PAN/NAP via my mobile phone very well. -- Stefan Seyfried "Any ideas, John?" "Well, surrounding them's out." -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Peter Nikolic

7 Dec 7 Dec

08:33

On Monday 06 Dec 2010 21:17:07 Stefan Seyfried wrote:

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Greg KH wrote:

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If so, then yes, wvdial needs to be fixed, file a bug please.

I am pretty sure that wvdial works fine when NetworkManager is disabled and netconfig is enabled.

NetworkManager does not play well with other network-managing tools. And IIUC, that's a deliberately made Design decision.

You can get it to work together, BTDT, see e.g. http://seife.kernalert.de/blog/2008/12/11/using-dialup-with-111-if-networkm anager-does-not-handle-your-device/ (and the followup on http://seife.kernalert.de/blog/2009/02/26/follow-up-using-dialup-on-111-wit hout-networkmanager/), but it's definitely not for people who don't know what they are doing ;-)

And for me, fortunately, this is all history since NetworkManager (with nm-applet, not knetworkmanager) supports both my ericsson-mbm 3G card and Bluetooth PAN/NAP via my mobile phone very well. HUmm i will havce a look at those URL's later tonight nm-applet is a gnome thing if i am not mistaken is it not that is one thing i try to avoid is mixing kde and gnome .

The thing is that networkmanager see's the vodafone device when it is plugged it but no way will it connect i have set every thing exactly the same as in the VMC software but no it sits there all day connecting but never gets any further on so there is no doubt at all the error lies in knetworkmanager and in the way you can not get the route to change if there is a wireless device configured that should be transparent when not in use . Pete . -- Powered by openSUSE 11.3 (x86_64) Kernel: 2.6.34.7-0.5-desktop KDE Development Platform: 4.4.4 (KDE 4.4.4) "release 3" 08:25 up 3 days 11:52, 4 users, load average: 0.26, 0.18, 0.10 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Stefan Seyfried

13:02

On Tue, 7 Dec 2010 08:33:11 +0000 Peter Nikolic wrote:

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HUmm i will havce a look at those URL's later tonight nm-applet is a gnome thing if i am not mistaken is it not that is one thing i try to avoid is mixing kde and gnome .

Well, but nm-applet is the thing that's working well while the KDE frontends are not. (Sorry, Will). That's simply because NM upstream always updates nm-applet if they break their API, and the KDE guys have to catch up afterwards, once they notice that stuff silently stopped working. So I really have to recommend that everybody installs nm-applet. It does not draw in too much of gnome.

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The thing is that networkmanager see's the vodafone device when it is plugged it but no way will it connect i have set every thing exactly the same as in the VMC software but no it sits there all day connecting but never gets any further on so there is no doubt at all the error lies in knetworkmanager and in the way you can not get the route to change if there is a wireless device configured that should be transparent when not in use .

Now try the same in nm-applet. If it still does not work, file a bug against NM, if it does work in nm-applet, file a bug against KDE (or change to GNOME). "I tried it with knetworkmanager and it did not work" tends to make me answer"so what, that was to be expected". It's not that I like that situation, but it is simply reality. And yes, apart from bugreports I did not much to improve that situation, so I am not complaining. -- Stefan Seyfried "Any ideas, John?" "Well, surrounding them's out." -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

C

5 Dec 5 Dec

20:10

New subject: [opensuse-factory] Feature Request for 11.4

On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 19:37, Greg KH wrote:

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I'll have a try of the newer NetworkManager version see it that makes any difference I wonder if it is partly due to this being a vodafone dongal and having to use the vodafone connect program i could not get UMTSMON to work with it

If you are using some third-party software for your device, take up the issue with them, not us, there's nothing we can do about it.

You get the same results if you use wvdial instead of the betavine software... you can initialize/dialout with the UMTS stick, but no network traffic will be routed unless you explicitly disable WiFi before you dial out.... wvdial is included in the openSUSE :-) so... I have no clue where the issue is... never bothered to follow up on it once I discovered that disabling WiFi "made it work". C -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

C

2 Dec 2 Dec

08:47

New subject: [opensuse-factory] Feature Request for 11.4

On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 09:17, Peter Nikolic wrote:

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This is by the way of an feature request .

I as many other do have a laptop that has wired and wireless networking as standard but sometimes i need to use a Mobile broadband dongal USB what is needed is an easy way to completely stop the wired and wireless networking to use the mobile system , The reason for this is that if wireless is disconnected but enabled then you can not get a route via the mobile connection you have to completely disable the wireless to use the mobile and easy way to do this is a much needed addition a means of picking which networking device is active .

Might be worth noting that this is a general issue that affects networking on more than just openSUSE. I've experienced the same issue on other current Linux distributions and on both Gnome and KDE4. Routing to the connected UMTS stick does not happen unless WiFi is explicitly (manually) disabled before connecting the UMTS stick. This is different behaviour than with the current eth and wlan behaviour where the OS smoothly switches between whichever is available. C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

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