Re: [opensuse-factory] automount problems
Am 06/04/12, schrieb Vincent Untz <vuntz@opensuse.org>:
Le lundi 04 juin 2012, à 17:46 +0200, "Stefan Brüns" a écrit :
My experience shows that ck is largely broken, or a least lacks in several aspects. It does not support multiseat (only one active session at a time), it does not support remote sessions (e.g. via LTSP) (unable to find the correct session at all). Whereas the former at least shows the pk authorization dialog, although for the wrong 'active' state, the latter is unable to show a dialog at all.
These problems can be solved by using systemd-logind. This needs a newer/patched polkit package. Anyone interested in testing this can find one in home:StefanBruens:branches:Base:System .
Session state can be queried using systemd-loginctl.
Pros of systemd-loginctl: it works Cons: it *might* depend on systemd, but I have not tested this.
IIRC, it does indeed depend on systemd at runtime, with no proper fallback to ConsoleKit when the system is not booted with systemd.
And that's why we've not switched the polkit package (and several others, including gdm, NetworkManager, gnome-packagekit, etc.) to use systemd-logind. It's a bit annoying, if you ask me :/
Hm, AFAIK the only packages depending directly on ck vs systemd-logind should be the session manager and policykit. Support in the session manager is only needed for full multiseat support (i.e. exporting SEAT settings), which leaves policykit. It should not be to difficult make pk fall back to ck, as the ck code is already there. I am currently running 12.1 with both console-kit-daemon and systemd-logind active (which is the default) and the logind only policykit. For a single local user, ck and logind show the same information, as soon as there are multiple logins at least logind provides the correct information. If there is interest I could include the ck fallback into my pk package. Any chance to get this included in 12.2? Regards, Stefan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Le lundi 04 juin 2012, à 18:35 +0200, "Stefan Brüns" a écrit :
Am 06/04/12, schrieb Vincent Untz <vuntz@opensuse.org>:
Le lundi 04 juin 2012, à 17:46 +0200, "Stefan Brüns" a écrit :
My experience shows that ck is largely broken, or a least lacks in several aspects. It does not support multiseat (only one active session at a time), it does not support remote sessions (e.g. via LTSP) (unable to find the correct session at all). Whereas the former at least shows the pk authorization dialog, although for the wrong 'active' state, the latter is unable to show a dialog at all.
These problems can be solved by using systemd-logind. This needs a newer/patched polkit package. Anyone interested in testing this can find one in home:StefanBruens:branches:Base:System .
Session state can be queried using systemd-loginctl.
Pros of systemd-loginctl: it works Cons: it *might* depend on systemd, but I have not tested this.
IIRC, it does indeed depend on systemd at runtime, with no proper fallback to ConsoleKit when the system is not booted with systemd.
And that's why we've not switched the polkit package (and several others, including gdm, NetworkManager, gnome-packagekit, etc.) to use systemd-logind. It's a bit annoying, if you ask me :/
Hm, AFAIK the only packages depending directly on ck vs systemd-logind should be the session manager and policykit. Support in the session manager is only needed for full multiseat support (i.e. exporting SEAT settings), which leaves policykit.
I can tell you for sure that many other packages depend on ConsoleKit right now (or could be switched to systemd-logind). NetworkManager is an example I already gave you -- it's using CK/systemd-logind to know if a NM client is on active session. If it's not the case, then you don't get the network icon in gonme-shell, for instance.
It should not be to difficult make pk fall back to ck, as the ck code is already there.
Well, it's more complex than that, really. If we don't switch everything to systemd-logind, then some stuff will be looking at ConsoleKit while the sessions won't be registered there anymore. But in general, yes, that patch would be welcome so that we can switch everything to systemd-logind and allow everything to fallback to ConsoleKit when we don't boot with systemd. Just make sure to upstream the patch :-) Cheers, Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
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