Tirsdag den 30. juni 2009 18:16:12 skrev Mariusz Fik:

Pulse audio is default backend for phonon, while xine works better with KDE. Is there any chance to make xine as default phonon backend for KDE4 desktop?

You'd hope that now that the fluendo codecs are gone we could get rid of gstreamer as the default and switch to xine and make life easier for a lot of people. But apparently gstreamer is supposed to work better with pulseaudio than xine. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

I mean gstreammer backend. Xine rocks! Btw, I don't want even pulse-audio in my KDE! +1 m3 installed from kde-live cd. Crappy sound at login/logout, few kmix crash. Well, as usually all fixed after switching to xine and removed all

Il mercoledì 01 luglio 2009, Mariusz Fik scrisse: pulseaudio related packages.. Bye. -- *** Linux user # 198661 ---_ ICQ 33500725 *** *** Home http://www.kailed.net *** *** Powered by openSUSE *** -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

2009/7/1 Daniele :

Il mercoledì 01 luglio 2009, Mariusz Fik scrisse:

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I mean gstreammer backend. Xine rocks! Btw, I don't want even pulse-audio in my KDE! +1 m3 installed from kde-live cd. Crappy sound at login/logout, few kmix crash. Well, as usually all fixed after switching to xine and removed all pulseaudio related packages..

I don't have Factory installed, but there are some thing that should be defined: - About GStreamer by itself: In KDE3 gstreamer was certainly bad. Each app had to implement it separately and the time KDE3 apps started implementing gstreamer backends coincided with the 0.8 -> 0.10 API change. Now there is only a point where Gstreamer needs to be implemented: Phonon. Since Gnome guys seem to be happy with GStreamer I suppose any problem isn't in GStreamer itself but in its Phonon backend, that should be fixed. I would argue that GStreamer is preferable if only because of multimedia support uniformity between desktops. That's supposing there isn't any valid point in favor of xine over gstreamer (is gstreamer still unable to play DVDs with menus?). - About PulseAudio: Should I understand that the default GStreamer audio output is PulseAudio? Is the audio output of Phonon dependent of the backend? If using the GStreamer Phonon backend means using the GStreamer selected audio output and that's PulseAudio then we have a coherency problem. It's my understanding that in 11.2 ALSA still outputs directly to the hardware, that only uses the pulse plugin through a patch in the gnome executable. So, if for KDE we are configuring ALSA to not use PA but we are configuring Phonon to use GStreamer (that uses PA) we should change something... when in KDE, PA could be used or not, but shouldn't be used in Phonon apps and not used in everything else. That said... it's my understanding that Phonon selects the audio output independently of the backend. But without a Factory installation I can't really say anything for sure. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org