[opensuse-factory] MS3/Factory bugs
Hello, as member of the testing core team I am testing 11.3-MS3 and later on my eeepc900 netbook, KVM and VirtualBox VMs. And there are some things that might need looking at. a) the Ctrl+Alt+Backspace to kill X11 does not work anywhere/anyhow for me and Jaroslaw Zachwieja. While the issue is minor, I was somewhat disappointed on the response by Stefan Dirsch (repeatedly closing as WORKSFORME without documenting how to get it working). https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=576481 b) on openSUSE-KDE-LiveCD-i686-Build0516-Media.iso openOffice.org crashes when editing a text and doing Insert/Indexes+tables/Indexes+tables nearly the same backtrace is produced on a crash on Insert/Frame + resize-frame http://www3.zq1.de/bernhard/linux/ooffice-crash-backtrace unluckily, I could not get the debug rpms installed using the zypper lines proposed by gdb and the official Debug repo. c) the netbook does not suspend on lid-close, even though acpid is running. From some more testing I found that it can be helped with some tweaking in /etc/acpi/ . Hints in http://students.washington.edu/f/stuff/suspend.shtml Is there already some yast-way to do this configuration? d) with MS3 on my netbook, X11 keyboard layout was always US and could not be changed with yast2 keyboard or yast2 language or KDE-controlcenter. only xorg.conf with AutoAddDevices off helped. e) in that course of action I noticed that the (officially deprecated) SaX2 is no more working so creating a xorg.conf is now a lot more difficult. While I heard people saying that "SaX2 should no more be needed", there are still plenty cases for plenty people when a working xorg.conf is still needed. Installing a /etc/X11/xorg.conf.template could already help there. f) I noticed that installer does not allow me to have root fs crypted. Didn't this work in earlier times? I now got Build0516-KDE-LiveCD booting fine on VirtualBox-3.1.4 (with software-virt) where Build0500 crashed from bugs in vbox drivers. Good job there. http://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=350338 might still remain, though -- Bernhard M. Wiedemann software engineer -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 07:10:34PM +0100, Bernhard M. Wiedemann wrote:
Meanwhile I've seen this as well. On my TODO list finally.
Keyboard setting should be fixed after the pending SR's from X11:Xorg to openSUSE:Factory have been accepted. With the switch from HAL/dbus to udev it should be enough for yast2 keyboard module to run /etc/X11/xdm/keytable for the static keyboard X11 configuration. No need to restart a daemon like HAL afterwards.
Known issue (see Bug #586112). Feel free to provide a fix.
I've written a small shell script (xlog2xconf) some time ago to create such a template from an existing XOrg.0.log, but with the new xorg-server 1.8 this no longer works either. :-( Best regards, Stefan Public Key available ------------------------------------------------------ Stefan Dirsch (Res. & Dev.) SUSE LINUX Products GmbH Tel: 0911-740 53 0 Maxfeldstraße 5 FAX: 0911-740 53 479 D-90409 Nürnberg http://www.suse.de Germany ----------------------------------------------------------------- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) ----------------------------------------------------------------- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 don't forget that hal do not start correctly on boot, that is problematic for xfce/lxde there are applications like xfce-power-manager that needs hal: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=578995 Andrea Il 24/03/2010 20:50, Stefan Dirsch ha scritto:
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On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 19:10:34 +0100 "Bernhard M. Wiedemann" <susefactory@lsmod.de> wrote:
NO! That's wrong in so many ways... You need to configure this in gnome-power-manager or KDE's power-management-application-of-the-day. Not in YaST. Policy is up to the desktop session, since years. Acpid is only used as an events multiplexer, because the kernel hackers are too lazy to implement multiple open for /proc/acpi/event ;-) -- Stefan Seyfried "Any ideas, John?" "Well, surrounding them's out." -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Am 25.03.2010 10:09, schrieb Stefan Seyfried:
I am usually using icewm or sometimes even a plain Linux text console, so there should be a way that does not need Gnome or KDE. After all, why not allow for system-wide defaults? btw: the netbook came preinstalled with Xandros which is a derivative of Debian/4.0 (etch) - and it had icewm nicely adapted to show on the bottom battery status and caps/num-lock status (because hardware has no LEDs for them) and such. Didnt yet check how they solved the suspend-on-lid. Ciao Bernhard M. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 12:19:54 +0100 "Bernhard M. Wiedemann" <susefactory@lsmod.de> wrote:
Because there is no infrastructure for it and it is a usability hell. The decision to move all those policy decisions into the user session are deliberate ones made years ago. You can run g-p-m also in icewm. Or write your own policy agent, it is not rocket science. -- Stefan Seyfried "Any ideas, John?" "Well, surrounding them's out." -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 07:10:34PM +0100, Bernhard M. Wiedemann wrote:
Meanwhile I've seen this as well. On my TODO list finally.
Keyboard setting should be fixed after the pending SR's from X11:Xorg to openSUSE:Factory have been accepted. With the switch from HAL/dbus to udev it should be enough for yast2 keyboard module to run /etc/X11/xdm/keytable for the static keyboard X11 configuration. No need to restart a daemon like HAL afterwards.
Known issue (see Bug #586112). Feel free to provide a fix.
I've written a small shell script (xlog2xconf) some time ago to create such a template from an existing XOrg.0.log, but with the new xorg-server 1.8 this no longer works either. :-( Best regards, Stefan Public Key available ------------------------------------------------------ Stefan Dirsch (Res. & Dev.) SUSE LINUX Products GmbH Tel: 0911-740 53 0 Maxfeldstraße 5 FAX: 0911-740 53 479 D-90409 Nürnberg http://www.suse.de Germany ----------------------------------------------------------------- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) ----------------------------------------------------------------- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 don't forget that hal do not start correctly on boot, that is problematic for xfce/lxde there are applications like xfce-power-manager that needs hal: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=578995 Andrea Il 24/03/2010 20:50, Stefan Dirsch ha scritto:
- -- - ------------------------------------------ Andrea Florio QSI International School of Brindisi Sys Admin CISCO CCNA Certified openSUSE-Education Administrator openSUSE Official Member (anubisg1) Email: andrea@opensuse.org Packman Packaging Team Email: andrea@links2linux.de Web: http://packman.links2linux.org/ Cell: +39-328-7365667 - ------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkuqbmUACgkQyCZT87TFPuhKNQCeOTg4+Q4yjFvEzor+AMGlvutj YNUAn2j5agC/oE7ltvkJLTCV++6unGkx =mUDD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 19:10:34 +0100 "Bernhard M. Wiedemann" <susefactory@lsmod.de> wrote:
NO! That's wrong in so many ways... You need to configure this in gnome-power-manager or KDE's power-management-application-of-the-day. Not in YaST. Policy is up to the desktop session, since years. Acpid is only used as an events multiplexer, because the kernel hackers are too lazy to implement multiple open for /proc/acpi/event ;-) -- Stefan Seyfried "Any ideas, John?" "Well, surrounding them's out." -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Am 25.03.2010 10:09, schrieb Stefan Seyfried:
I am usually using icewm or sometimes even a plain Linux text console, so there should be a way that does not need Gnome or KDE. After all, why not allow for system-wide defaults? btw: the netbook came preinstalled with Xandros which is a derivative of Debian/4.0 (etch) - and it had icewm nicely adapted to show on the bottom battery status and caps/num-lock status (because hardware has no LEDs for them) and such. Didnt yet check how they solved the suspend-on-lid. Ciao Bernhard M. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 12:19:54 +0100 "Bernhard M. Wiedemann" <susefactory@lsmod.de> wrote:
Because there is no infrastructure for it and it is a usability hell. The decision to move all those policy decisions into the user session are deliberate ones made years ago. You can run g-p-m also in icewm. Or write your own policy agent, it is not rocket science. -- Stefan Seyfried "Any ideas, John?" "Well, surrounding them's out." -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
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