[opensuse-factory] When will we get automatic retries on installation downloads?
Hi, after a factory update with quite a few 504 file not found errors, with wireshark running to prove it was due to mirrors not having the file, I have added my bit to https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=425035 and voted for it as well. I have seen many complaints about leaving a system to update overnight and waking up in the morning to an http 504 error where if libzypp had automatically retried two or three times then the installation/update would have completed. The above bug is only an enhancement request so it needs your votes but I think libzypp not automatically retrying a few times ( nobody wants to wake up to retry loop due to another problem) should be a bug by now, all it would take is a few extra lines of code before the "file not found" error is reported. Things have come a long way since 11.0 alpha when I had the problem of libzypp retrying the same mirror, now it switches to another mirror on retry, this makes automatic retries possible without problems. Regards Dave P -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Dave Plater wrote:
Hi, after a factory update with quite a few 504 file not found errors, with wireshark running to prove it was due to mirrors not having the file, I have added my bit to https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=425035 and voted for it as well. I have seen many complaints about leaving a system to update overnight and waking up in the morning to an http 504 error where if libzypp had automatically retried two or three times then the installation/update would have completed. The above bug is only an enhancement request so it needs your votes but I think libzypp not automatically retrying a few times ( nobody wants to wake up to retry loop due to another problem) should be a bug by now, all it would take is a few extra lines of code before the "file not found" error is reported. Things have come a long way since 11.0 alpha when I had the problem of libzypp retrying the same mirror, now it switches to another mirror on retry, this makes automatic retries possible without problems. Regards Dave P
zypp have already solved this, by separate temporary and permanent error. Some response is detected as temporary and zypper or yast try it again for some hardcoded number (zypper have three I think). Only problem is that now is return code 504 undefined, so it is by default marked as permanent error. I added to that bug patch which change it. JR -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, 2008-10-29 at 09:57 +0100, Josef Reidinger wrote:
Dave Plater wrote:
Hi, after a factory update with quite a few 504 file not found errors, with wireshark running to prove it was due to mirrors not having the file, I have added my bit to https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=425035 and voted for it as well. I have seen many complaints about leaving a system to update overnight and waking up in the morning to an http 504 error where if libzypp had automatically retried two or three times then the installation/update would have completed. The above bug is only an enhancement request so it needs your votes but I think libzypp not automatically retrying a few times ( nobody wants to wake up to retry loop due to another problem) should be a bug by now, all it would take is a few extra lines of code before the "file not found" error is reported. Things have come a long way since 11.0 alpha when I had the problem of libzypp retrying the same mirror, now it switches to another mirror on retry, this makes automatic retries possible without problems. Regards
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zypp have already solved this, by separate temporary and permanent error. Some response is detected as temporary and zypper or yast try it again for some hardcoded number (zypper have three I think). Only problem is that now is return code 504 undefined, so it is by default marked as permanent error. I added to that bug patch which change it.
What zypper version has this? I had this timeout problem twice this night. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkkIQOoACgkQtTMYHG2NR9UR4QCdGh3U3uXkCyThvVUPixx2/m1J hi4AoI68ZB+8H4k2fagFV8XHlrQFiZxX =/WAn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Wednesday, 2008-10-29 at 09:57 +0100, Josef Reidinger wrote: <snip>
zypp have already solved this, by separate temporary and permanent error. Some response is detected as temporary and zypper or yast try it again for some hardcoded number (zypper have three I think). Only problem is that now is return code 504 undefined, so it is by default marked as permanent error. I added to that bug patch which change it.
What zypper version has this? I had this timeout problem twice this night.
-- Cheers, Carlos E. R.
Zypper from OpenSuse 11.0 should have it. But it use only defines case, which now is especially temporary problems on dial-up. If you have timeout, maybe this situation is not recognized correctly and if you fill bug with logs, we can add retry for this case. JR -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, 2008-10-29 at 12:24 +0100, Josef Reidinger wrote:
What zypper version has this? I had this timeout problem twice this night.
Zypper from OpenSuse 11.0 should have it. But it use only defines case, which now is especially temporary problems on dial-up. If you have timeout, maybe this situation is not recognized correctly and if you fill bug with logs, we can add retry for this case.
I'm refering to factory, ie, 11.1, and it did not retry this night, or not enough (if the adsl goes down, it is a minute at least till it comes up again). Tell me which logs do you need and I'll fill a bug. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkkIS5AACgkQtTMYHG2NR9VjugCdHCf5FnLXIheAfiRHGa0wM1jD pJwAniEXDBqGJi5vt4XmWw6+4MId8fW4 =LJ+S -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Wednesday, 2008-10-29 at 12:24 +0100, Josef Reidinger wrote:
What zypper version has this? I had this timeout problem twice this night.
Zypper from OpenSuse 11.0 should have it. But it use only defines case, which now is especially temporary problems on dial-up. If you have timeout, maybe this situation is not recognized correctly and if you fill bug with logs, we can add retry for this case.
I'm refering to factory, ie, 11.1, and it did not retry this night, or not enough (if the adsl goes down, it is a minute at least till it comes up again).
Tell me which logs do you need and I'll fill a bug.
-- Cheers, Carlos E. R.
YaST logs is needed. Now it is set to 3 times repeat after 30 seconds. JR -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, 2008-10-29 at 12:49 +0100, Josef Reidinger wrote:
I'm refering to factory, ie, 11.1, and it did not retry this night, or not enough (if the adsl goes down, it is a minute at least till it comes up again).
Tell me which logs do you need and I'll fill a bug.
YaST logs is needed. Now it is set to 3 times repeat after 30 seconds.
Probably not enough for me. Logs atached to Attachment #248597 to bug 425035 created which it is the same problem as I have. I left that bug closed, Ján Kupec thinks it is a duplicate; I think not, but left untouched. I you want a new bug instead please tell me so. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkkIabAACgkQtTMYHG2NR9V3NwCbBDRtHxmZah0PXldszZQ0EC2O 5A4AoIuOBgRzN8CH2muIgc7jHR51188H =yyjW -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Wednesday, 2008-10-29 at 12:49 +0100, Josef Reidinger wrote:
I'm refering to factory, ie, 11.1, and it did not retry this night, or not enough (if the adsl goes down, it is a minute at least till it comes up again).
Tell me which logs do you need and I'll fill a bug.
YaST logs is needed. Now it is set to 3 times repeat after 30 seconds.
Probably not enough for me.
Logs atached to
Attachment #248597 to bug 425035 created
which it is the same problem as I have. I left that bug closed, Ján
But which one, the bug mixes at least two problems.
Kupec thinks it is a duplicate; I think not, but left untouched.
I explained my reasons for marking it a duplicate of that bug, what would you like to see done instead?
I you want a new bug instead please tell me so.
Depends on the above. - -- cheers, jano Ján Kupec YaST team - ---------------------------------------------------------(PGP)--- Key ID: 637EE901 Fingerprint: 93B9 C79B 2D20 51C3 800B E09B 8048 46A6 637E E901 - ----------------------------------------------------------------- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkkIa6UACgkQgEhGpmN+6QECxgCeOasEG4jSoxLMjczJZpWFyN2g uGkAn0QMbC0DjXjP2LieGD5NqlG4Z40l =z1bF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, 2008-10-29 at 14:56 +0100, Jan Kupec wrote:
YaST logs is needed. Now it is set to 3 times repeat after 30 seconds.
Probably not enough for me.
Logs atached to
Attachment #248597 to bug 425035 created
which it is the same problem as I have. I left that bug closed, Ján
But which one, the bug mixes at least two problems.
Argh. Mine is a timeout for unknown reason. zypperlog says: 2008-10-29 03:26:14 <5> nimrodel(8411) [zypp] Exception.cc(log):119 MediaCurl.cc(doGetFileCopy):1293 THROW: MediaCurl.cc(doGetFileCopy):1293: Timeout exceed I guess it is an adsl hicup. yes, it is logged on the router log: Oct 29 03:23:16 router pppd[324]: Clear IP addresses. PPP connection DOWN. At "03:24:31" it was back on. This one I catched and retried manually. There was another one after I left, at 04:53:46.
Kupec thinks it is a duplicate; I think not, but left untouched.
I explained my reasons for marking it a duplicate of that bug, what would you like to see done instead?
You decide based on my data :-)
I you want a new bug instead please tell me so.
Depends on the above.
I don't know. Whom do I send my logs? - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkkIcGwACgkQtTMYHG2NR9UslwCfS8iF3kqw/eXVk1Yk8PtQY4vx 69wAoIanMFmDgWQ4A4bWQgpBOENOS2zp =/+6t -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Content-ID: <alpine.LSU.2.00.0810292046380.4858@nimrodel.valinor> On Wednesday, 2008-10-29 at 14:56 +0100, Jan Kupec wrote:
Carlos E. R. wrote:
I'm refering to factory, ie, 11.1, and it did not retry this night, or not enough (if the adsl goes down, it is a minute at least till it comes up again).
Tell me which logs do you need and I'll fill a bug.
YaST logs is needed. Now it is set to 3 times repeat after 30 seconds.
Probably not enough for me.
Logs atached to
Attachment #248597 to bug 425035 created
which it is the same problem as I have. I left that bug closed, Ján
But which one, the bug mixes at least two problems.
Kupec thinks it is a duplicate; I think not, but left untouched.
I explained my reasons for marking it a duplicate of that bug, what would you like to see done instead?
I you want a new bug instead please tell me so.
Depends on the above.
I filled a new bug. I tried to put you in CC, but bugzilla says you do not exist. Bug 439983 - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkkIvccACgkQtTMYHG2NR9VgxgCcDcP32SiNuYdBrEVTcKhp6B1q YqoAn3ObR7n7J39cDHEJDIFf3nusxuMJ =mEqA -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Carlos E. R. wrote:
Content-ID: <alpine.LSU.2.00.0810292046380.4858@nimrodel.valinor>
On Wednesday, 2008-10-29 at 14:56 +0100, Jan Kupec wrote:
Carlos E. R. wrote:
I'm refering to factory, ie, 11.1, and it did not retry this night, or not enough (if the adsl goes down, it is a minute at least till it comes up again).
Tell me which logs do you need and I'll fill a bug.
YaST logs is needed. Now it is set to 3 times repeat after 30 seconds.
Probably not enough for me.
Logs atached to
Attachment #248597 to bug 425035 created
which it is the same problem as I have. I left that bug closed, Ján
But which one, the bug mixes at least two problems.
Kupec thinks it is a duplicate; I think not, but left untouched.
I explained my reasons for marking it a duplicate of that bug, what would you like to see done instead?
I you want a new bug instead please tell me so.
Depends on the above.
I filled a new bug. I tried to put you in CC, but bugzilla says you do not exist.
Bug 439983
-- Cheers, Carlos E. R.
I added jano (in bugzilla we have novell emails) to CC...I think problem is in non-interactive mode, where it doesn't try automatic retries. It is bug and we should fix it. JR -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, 2008-10-30 at 08:19 +0100, Josef Reidinger wrote:
I filled a new bug. I tried to put you in CC, but bugzilla says you do not exist.
Bug 439983
I added jano (in bugzilla we have novell emails) to CC...I think problem is in non-interactive mode, where it doesn't try automatic retries. It is bug and we should fix it.
Thanks. (I did a search for your name, but bugzilla did not find it; I remember now that somebody said it does not work, and instead he does a whole text search on the entire database for names, instead) - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkkJojMACgkQtTMYHG2NR9WWCACgl8L/Dq9SKTVH5dlM/EfM/D3A jcYAoI5KLKB0fT5B5Oc4OkfrSSGp0BCp =qrGJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Hi, On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 10:30:51AM +0200, Dave Plater wrote:
Hi, after a factory update with quite a few 504 file not found errors, with wireshark running to prove it was due to mirrors not having the file, I have added my bit to https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=425035 and voted for it as well. I have seen many complaints about leaving a system to update overnight and waking up in the morning to an http 504 error where if libzypp had automatically retried two or three times then the installation/update would have completed. The above bug is only an enhancement request so it needs your votes but I think libzypp not automatically retrying a few times ( nobody wants to wake up to retry loop due to another problem) should be a bug by now, all it would take is a few extra lines of code before the "file not found" error is reported. Things have come a long way since 11.0 alpha when I had the problem of libzypp retrying the same mirror, now it switches to another mirror on retry, this makes automatic retries possible without problems. Regards Dave P
some notes (details in the bug): 1. This is about HTTP 404 status (file not found), not 504. 2. The US mirror distro.ibiblio.org has a sync problem which caused /factory subdirectory to disappear. I have contacted them to sort it out. (1) is preventable by http://en.opensuse.org/Libzypp/Failover (2) https://features.opensuse.org/?rm=feature_show&id=305320 would allow us to debug these things without reading wireshark traces! Peter -- Contact: admin@opensuse.org (a.k.a. ftpadmin@suse.com) #opensuse-mirrors on freenode.net Info: http://en.opensuse.org/Mirror_Infrastructure SUSE LINUX Products GmbH Research & Development
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, 2008-10-29 at 12:16 +0100, Peter Poeml wrote:
some notes (details in the bug):
1. This is about HTTP 404 status (file not found), not 504. 2. The US mirror distro.ibiblio.org has a sync problem which caused /factory subdirectory to disappear. I have contacted them to sort it out.
(1) is preventable by http://en.opensuse.org/Libzypp/Failover
(2) https://features.opensuse.org/?rm=feature_show&id=305320 would allow us to debug these things without reading wireshark traces!
Whatever is the cause, for people like me doing the dup unattended, it would be very convenient for zypper to auto-retry more times with intervals. For example, my adsl can go down for a minute and recover with a change of IP. I'm sure this is not your fault, but zypper retrying with a delay would solve it. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkkITuoACgkQtTMYHG2NR9Xy4wCfWEnLqvohRAxUtmU1Lf7aFSry +ZUAnRFMQijoZHDzSAfUxACZm0u639l2 =6q4/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
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