[opensuse-factory] Plans for X11R7.5 (Xorg server 1.7) in Factory?
Hi, I recently visited the x.org websites and saw that X11R7.5 (a.k.a. X.org server 1.7) has been available for a while now as a stable release. In Factory as well as OBS, I still see R7.4 though. Are there plans to upgrade X.org to that newer release in Factory? I would have guessed that with all the buzz about KMS and phasing out sax2 that an upgrade of X.org was in the works, but I couldn't find stuff to test there... Robert Kaiser -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 01:22:51PM +0100, Robert Kaiser wrote:
I recently visited the x.org websites and saw that X11R7.5 (a.k.a. X.org server 1.7) has been available for a while now as a stable release. In Factory as well as OBS, I still see R7.4 though. Are there plans to upgrade X.org to that newer release in Factory? I would have guessed that with all the buzz about KMS and phasing out sax2 that an upgrade of X.org was in the works, but I couldn't find stuff to test there...
While we are at it: If/when 1.7 is going in, many people who are using 1.6.x right now are in for a surprise: The dpi behaviour is changed back to the old (pre xrandr) behaviour where everything is seen as 96 dpi and any different value needs to be given *as a command line argument* to the xserver. It seems that there is no xorg.conf parameter to achieve this and there also is no way to get back to the 1.6 behaviour at all (i.e. pick the dpi value from xrandr). This is intentional although I fail to understand the arguments. Please see http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23705 for details. Ciao Joerg -- Joerg Mayer <jmayer@loplof.de> We are stuck with technology when what we really want is just stuff that works. Some say that should read Microsoft instead of technology. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On 15/02/10 00:34, Joerg Mayer wrote:
On Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 01:22:51PM +0100, Robert Kaiser wrote:
I recently visited the x.org websites and saw that X11R7.5 (a.k.a. X.org server 1.7) has been available for a while now as a stable release. In Factory as well as OBS, I still see R7.4 though. Are there plans to upgrade X.org to that newer release in Factory? I would have guessed that with all the buzz about KMS and phasing out sax2 that an upgrade of X.org was in the works, but I couldn't find stuff to test there...
While we are at it: If/when 1.7 is going in, many people who are using 1.6.x right now are in for a surprise: The dpi behaviour is changed back to the old (pre xrandr) behaviour where everything is seen as 96 dpi and any different value needs to be given *as a command line argument* to the xserver. It seems that there is no xorg.conf parameter to achieve this and there also is no way to get back to the 1.6 behaviour at all (i.e. pick the dpi value from xrandr). This is intentional although I fail to understand the arguments. Please see http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23705 for details.
Ciao Joerg -- Joerg Mayer <jmayer@loplof.de> We are stuck with technology when what we really want is just stuff that works. Some say that should read Microsoft instead of technology.
What are those guys thinking? If the car makers followed similar thinking, we'd be back to crank handles in place of ignition systems. I don't know of any other desktops, as they claim, where you have to fiddle with such garbage. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support Specialist, Cricket Coach Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 15 Feb 2010 01:31:23 Sid Boyce wrote:
On 15/02/10 00:34, Joerg Mayer wrote:
On Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 01:22:51PM +0100, Robert Kaiser wrote:
I recently visited the x.org websites and saw that X11R7.5 (a.k.a. X.org server 1.7) has been available for a while now as a stable release. In Factory as well as OBS, I still see R7.4 though. Are there plans to upgrade X.org to that newer release in Factory? I would have guessed that with all the buzz about KMS and phasing out sax2 that an upgrade of X.org was in the works, but I couldn't find stuff to test there...
While we are at it: If/when 1.7 is going in, many people who are using 1.6.x right now are in for a surprise: The dpi behaviour is changed back to the old (pre xrandr) behaviour where everything is seen as 96 dpi and any different value needs to be given *as a command line argument* to the xserver. It seems that there is no xorg.conf parameter to achieve this and there also is no way to get back to the 1.6 behaviour at all (i.e. pick the dpi value from xrandr). This is intentional although I fail to understand the arguments. Please see http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23705 for details.
Ciao Joerg -- Joerg Mayer <jmayer@loplof.de> We are stuck with technology when what we really want is just stuff that works. Some say that should read Microsoft instead of technology.
What are those guys thinking? If the car makers followed similar thinking, we'd be back to crank handles in place of ignition systems. I don't know of any other desktops, as they claim, where you have to fiddle with such garbage. Regards Sid.
It would seem they been taking lessons from the KDE folks we are going to do whatever we want and screw the users . They are just going to make life hell again maybe if they put some work into ATI stuff they might get a bit of praise instead of a slating off. Pete . Pete . -- Powered by openSUSE 11.2 Milestone 2 (x86_64) Kernel: 2.6.30-rc6-git3-4- default KDE: 4.2.86 (KDE 4.2.86 (KDE 4.3 >= 20090514)) "release 1" 09:10 up 22 days 23:53, 2 users, load average: 0.16, 0.10, 0.15
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