Hallo, (@bnc-team-screening: sorry that you have that much work with me ;-) Am Montag, 27. August 2007 schrieb Andreas Jaeger:

Christian Boltz writes:

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- my 10.2 partition is only offered for update if I select "show all partitions" (and: no, I don't think that https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=299667 is invalid - the solution would be to ask for the password of the encrypted partition earlier)

Please file a bug report.

I reopened the existing report instead and hope it won't be closed as invalid again.

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- /etc/cryptotab is not converted to /dev/sd*, so mounting encrypted partitions while installation fails

Another bugreport.

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- /etc/fstab is also not converted, so mounting everything except / fails - /boot/grub/device.map also wasn't modified, resulting in a failure at bootloader installation - installing the kernel also failed because mkinitrd was still trying to use hda - workaround: change fstab manually

Lots of bugreports :-(

These bugs might be related to #299667 - I mentioned them there instead of opening separate reports.

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- the tab order in the dialog to add an add-on repository is broken

#305074

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- the pattern "update test packages" does not drop in any of the "update-test-*" packages

Mmh - that's bad :-(

#305075

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- I had the latest KDE packages from Buildservice on 10.2, and the beta2 installation had to downgrade them. This resulted in lots of conflicts, YaST even marked the beta2 KDE packages with "arch change" and did not honor what I chose in the conflict dialog. I had to go to the packages mask and mark the KDE packages to be refreshed.

#305080 (Yes, I know that buildservice packages are officially unsupported. However the KDE packages are used widely, additionally the symptoms look like solver problems, so no work for you, Stephan ;-)

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- strange version difference: I'm still using agrep from SUSE 8.2, which is version 4.0 (newer releases didn't contain it) and now re-appeared with version 0.7.

Any idea on this one? It's not really a bug, just a bit strange.

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- on the first run, the installation aborted unexpectedly, probably because the y2logs and a testcase needed too much RAM. Sidenote: I have 1GB RAM... Anyways, expected result is a warning "out of RAM, please cleanup the logs or add swap."

#305083 - not because of the size needed, but because of the unexpected exit of YaST.

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- oh, just after clicking "accept" in the pattern details view, I got about 200 MB additional y2log in 10 seconds...

with debuggin enabled? This should not happen otherwise and would be worth a bugreport.

In the first try, I had created a testcase. (But no other debugging set) In the second try, no debugging ws enabled. And manual mode should not be relevant, if I understand Jiri's mail correct. #305087

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- for OpenOffice, thesaurus packages are installed for lots of languages I never use. I'd expect to only have packages for my system language by default.

Agreed -> please do one more report.

#305088

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- Some packages unselected in pattern details (the OpenOffice thesaurus packages) were re-selected after clicking "packages" in the proposal - which means YaST does changes after a user has done a per-package selection in the pattern details view

#305091

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- what about gtk-qt-engine? It conflicts with kcm_gtk...

Isn't it removed? But perhaps not done properly :-(

#305094

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- java_1_4_2_sun_jdbc also caused a conflict, maybe it should be obsoleted by a current (1.5.0) package

Yeah, perhaps we need one more bugreport.

You can have one ;-) #305096

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- YaST didn't display the slide show, dunno why

#305097

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- installation of several non-OSS packages failed with error message "Inconsistency detected by ld.so: dl-open.c: 623: _dl_open: Assertion `_dl_debug_initialize [...]" %post failed with exit status 127 affected: nspluginwrapper, acroread, flash-player, RealPlayer

I haven't seen this - please file a bug.

#305098

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- according to the y2log, the downloaded release notes have version 10.2.3 which is obviously older than 10.3.5 in Factory

:-(

#305101

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- SuSEconfig.zzzopt_gnome-compat code looks ugly code, it should have more than one FIXME ;-)

No bug report yet, I have to re-check it.

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- opensuse-updater is not obsoleted by opensuse-updater-kde, so I have installed both of them now

It should be, I check the spec file. Please file a report.

already known, #304336

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And some things I already found in the running system: - something seems to run "insserv -r boot.crypto" while installation, so my encrypted partition wasn't mounted at boot (workaround: insserv it again)

:-(

#305105

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- opensuse-updater (the old one, still running after the update) lists also *packages* to update, not only patches (intended?) - opensuse-updater (again the old one) has a grey, empty area at the bottom - where's the patch description?

Not worth bug reports, I guess - but I'll have to check the zypp-checkpatches-wrapper output.

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- the new opensuse-updater-kde initially shows only an overview. I'm not yet sure if I really like this (for me it's a click more to see the available updates) - so please add an "always show details" checkbox.

#305109 This makes a total of 15 bugreports opened today...

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- YOU doesn't display information about packages, just lists the patches (empty list at the right section of the window)

not reported yet, it's finally time to go to bed ;-)

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I would be happy if someone could add a short note to every item if it is already known or if I need to file a bugreport ;-)

I have not found really many that are known to *me* :-(

*g*

Thanks a lot for your testing!

No problem, you probably know that I don't really like stable releases ;-) (however I didn't use an alpha yet) However, I'd need days with more than 24 hours. Can't you invent something like that? ;-)

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PS: I'll now going to verify if all YaST modules support the help parameter (bugs 269886 to 269914) to get a better feeling...

At least this resulted in lots of bugs changed to VERIFIED, however I had to reopen some. Regards, Christian Boltz -- 31.8.-3.9.2007: Weinfest und Jubiläum - 1225 Jahre Insheim Pig Slip, Hifi-Delity, Human Fact, Frank Petersen und die Söhne Insheims spielen bei der Landjugend. Mehr Infos: www.Landjugend-Insheim.de --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

I have upgraded via smart from beta 2 to 3 in 32 bits, and got 3 problems: 1- mkinitrd could not create a temp file in /var/tmp/ , and then do'nt creates the initrd. 2- kpowersave, do'nt works 3- mounting removable devices do'nt works. In the cases 2 and 3 I resolved the problem installing mkinitrd and kpowersave from beta 2. The case 3 could'nt resolve it. I have installed from zero in the same system the 64 bits version of OSS 10.3 beta 2 (after various attemps to resizing a partition to create a new), and it works fine, without replacing any package. The only problem with the 64 bits is that the midnight commander (mc) do'nt works. Regards 2007/8/27, Jiri Srain :

Hi!

Strange, my upgrade from 10.2 to Beta3 worked successfully (I used only the Beta3 instlalation repository). Probably because of no disk renames, since I have a SATA system.

Also, I have not noticed any memory problem (same amount of memory as you, 64-bit system). May be caused by excluding Factory repository.

I think you can file bugreports for all of these issues unless someone gives an update on them. I don't think we can track them on the mailing list...

Jiri

Dne Monday 27 of August 2007 01:44:03 Christian Boltz napsal(a):

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Hello,

I just updated my 10.2 to 10.3 beta2 and, well, it was a bit adventurous ;-) and I'm asking myself if someone has tried to install beta2 as update - there are too many obvious bugs, and some of them are critical from my POV :-(

Installation source: Factory tree + non-OSS tree, mirrored yesterday

Just a short overview about the problems I had as short overview:

- my 10.2 partition is only offered for update if I select "show all partitions" (and: no, I don't think that https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=299667 is invalid - the solution would be to ask for the password of the encrypted partition earlier) - /etc/cryptotab is not converted to /dev/sd*, so mounting encrypted partitions while installation fails - /etc/fstab is also not converted, so mounting everything except / fails - /boot/grub/device.map also wasn't modified, resulting in a failure at bootloader installation - installing the kernel also failed because mkinitrd was still trying to use hda - workaround: change fstab manually

These three sound like a one bug in detecting the disk mapping. I doubt we managed to break it on that many places, since it worked in the past.

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- the tab order in the dialog to add an add-on repository is broken - the pattern "update test packages" does not drop in any of the "update-test-*" packages - I had the latest KDE packages from Buildservice on 10.2, and the beta2 installation had to downgrade them. This resulted in lots of conflicts, YaST even marked the beta2 KDE packages with "arch change" and did not honor what I chose in the conflict dialog. I had to go to the packages mask and mark the KDE packages to be refreshed. - strange version difference: I'm still using agrep from SUSE 8.2, which is version 4.0 (newer releases didn't contain it) and now re-appeared with version 0.7. - on the first run, the installation aborted unexpectedly, probably because the y2logs and a testcase needed too much RAM. Sidenote: I have 1GB RAM... Next run without testcase generation worked, but still created ~300 MB y2logs. Question: does "manual" mode create bigger logs does this always happen? (reason for manual mode: linuxrc forces me to manual installation mode because it doesn't find my HTTP installation source in the first run - already filed a bug about this)

No, it should not. However, IIRC logs from previous (failed) installations are concatenated unless you reboot.

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Anyways, expected result is a warning "out of RAM, please cleanup the logs or add swap." - oh, just after clicking "accept" in the pattern details view, I got about 200 MB additional y2log in 10 seconds... - dependency check is quite slow when you have many conflicts (but fast after you have solved them) - for OpenOffice, thesaurus packages are installed for lots of languages I never use. I'd expect to only have packages for my system language by default. - Some packages unselected in pattern details (the OpenOffice thesaurus packages) were re-selected after clicking "packages" in the proposal - which means YaST does changes after a user has done a per-package selection in the pattern details view - what about gtk-qt-engine? It conflicts with kcm_gtk... - java_1_4_2_sun_jdbc also caused a conflict, maybe it should be obsoleted by a current (1.5.0) package - YaST didn't display the slide show, dunno why - installation of several non-OSS packages failed with error message "Inconsistency detected by ld.so: dl-open.c: 623: _dl_open: Assertion `_dl_debug_initialize [...]" %post failed with exit status 127 affected: nspluginwrapper, acroread, flash-player, RealPlayer - according to the y2log, the downloaded release notes have version 10.2.3 which is obviously older than 10.3.5 in Factory - SuSEconfig.zzzopt_gnome-compat code looks ugly code, it should have more than one FIXME ;-) - opensuse-updater is not obsoleted by opensuse-updater-kde, so I have installed both of them now

And some things I already found in the running system: - something seems to run "insserv -r boot.crypto" while installation, so my encrypted partition wasn't mounted at boot (workaround: insserv it again)

- opensuse-updater (the old one, still running after the update) lists also *packages* to update, not only patches (intended?) - opensuse-updater (again the old one) has a grey, empty area at the bottom - where's the patch description?

- the new opensuse-updater-kde initially shows only an overview. I'm not yet sure if I really like this (for me it's a click more to see the available updates) - so please add an "always show details" checkbox.

- YOU doesn't display information about packages, just lists the patches (empty list at the right section of the window)

I would be happy if someone could add a short note to every item if it is already known or if I need to file a bugreport ;-)

Regards,

Christian Boltz

PS: I'll now going to verify if all YaST modules support the help parameter (bugs 269886 to 269914) to get a better feeling...

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* Klaus Kaempf [2007-08-27 09:41]:

* Christian Boltz [Aug 27. 2007 01:45]:

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Hello,

I just updated my 10.2 to 10.3 beta2 and, well, it was a bit adventurous ;-) and I'm asking myself if someone has tried to install beta2 as update - there are too many obvious bugs, and some of them are critical from my POV :-(

Well, yes we are testing it but in parallel with the community ;-}

Updating 10.2 -> Beta 1 worked for me. Beta 1 -> Beta 2, too. So it's not that nobody uses 10.3 in SUSE. ;-) Thanks, Bernhard --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org