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There is no difference between the packages so I think this is an internal Factory's problem.

KDE:KDE3: [ 85s] checking if UIC has KDE plugins available... yes

openSUSE:Factory: [ 307s] checking if UIC has KDE plugins available... no [ 307s] configure: error: [ 307s] you need to install kdelibs first.

This message appears if trying to build kdebase against kdelibs which were built with another version of qt3. Kdelibs has been built September, 8, Qt3 has been changed September, 14 and rebuilt September, 24 https://build.opensuse.org/request/show/330825 This means the current kdelibs3 in Factory is built against old version of Qt3. Thus the failure.

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Particularly, kdelibs3 has not been rebult since September 8! build32 finished "build kdelibs3.spec" at Tue Sep 8 17:48:33 UTC 2015.https://build.opensuse.org/package/live_build_log/openSUSE:Factory/kdelibs3/...

After that date Qt3 has been modified so all depending packages should be rebuild.

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On Sun, 2015-10-25 at 09:58 +0300, Ilya Chernykh wrote:

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It seems KDE3 is no longer getting the attention it needs in order to survive as a viable option in Tumbleweed.

It's been already 4 weeks that a bunch of KDE3 related packages do no longer build in openSUSE:Factory; the notification mails that went out after one week of failed build have remained 'unanswered and without build fixes submitted'

Some of KDE3 packages (such as kdebase3) do not build in Factory https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/openSUSE:Factory/kdebase3

but build well in KDE:KDE3 against Factory. https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/KDE:KDE3/kdebase3

There is no difference between the packages so I think this is an internal Factory's problem.

Particularly, kdelibs3 has not been rebult since September 8! build32 finished "build kdelibs3.spec" at Tue Sep  8 17:48:33 UTC 2015.https://build.opensuse.org/package/live_build_log/openSUSE:Facto ry/kdelibs3/standard/i586

After that date Qt3 has been modified so all depending packages should be rebuild.

Thanks Ilya, I started to trigger a couple of those packages and this seems to go fine indeed. The K3 build system is overly nasty then though: the change in qt3 should really not require any rebuilding of any underlying things... but such are facts of life :) Cheers, Dominique -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Il Sun, 25 Oct 2015 09:38:42 +0000, John Layt ha scritto: Hello John,

software"? How does a version of KDE and Qt that hasn't been the latest stable release or supported for 7 years qualify? What purpose does it serve?

To clarify this: KDE3 isn't maintained, nor supported, by the openSUSE community KDE team. We handle the kdelibs 4.x and KF5 bits. Community members stepped up to maintain the KDE3 software (which I assume includes Trinity? I haven't been following). Personally speaking, I think it should be offered as an *add on repository* rather than being in the *main distro*. But that's just my opinion and doesn't reflect the one of the wider openSUSE community.

repo, but given what I suspect is the tiny user base is it really worth the clutter and hassle and security risk of having it in the main repo?

+1 to that. To anyone who wants to reply to this thread: *please* keep messages on KDE3 vs Plasma 4.x vs Plasma 5 *out* of this discussion. Let's limit ourselves to the feasibility of having KDE3 in the main distro. -- Luca Beltrame - KDE Forums team KDE Science supporter GPG key ID: A29D259B -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

On Sun, 25 Oct 2015 09:38:42 +0000 John Layt wrote:

On 24 October 2015 at 23:51, Dominique Leuenberger / DimStar wrote:

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Dear Tumbleweed Hackers,

It seems KDE3 is no longer getting the attention it needs in order to survive as a viable option in Tumbleweed.

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If there is no will to get those packages fixed, we can discuss about removing them.

Let me play Devil's Advocate here: why do we have KDE3 shipping in the main repository of what is supposed to be "a pure rolling release version of openSUSE containing the latest stable versions of all software"? How does a version of KDE and Qt that hasn't been the latest stable release or supported for 7 years qualify? What purpose does it serve?

On switching to Tumbleweed a couple of months ago and searching for KDE apps to install I was very surprised to be confronted by unclear choices between KDE 3 and KDE 4/KF5 versions of things. The situation is confusing enough with the KDE4 / KF5 migration! Now, as a KDE dev I could unpick some of that and know what to choose, but even then I accidentally ended up with some KDE3 stuff installed. To an average user I'd suggest it's even more confusing and counter-productive, and due to a lack of security updates downright dangerous. I have no problem with a few people clinging on to an app of even the desktop by using an OBS repo, but given what I suspect is the tiny user base is it really worth the clutter and hassle and security risk of having it in the main repo?

John.

Unfortunately, some third party apps like Chrome and LSB 4.0 still pull in Qt3 and KDE3. So at least some subset of KDE3 needs to be in TW. Thanks, Peter -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Stephan Kulow writes:

Yeah, not building them is indeed helpful to avoid seeing build failures. PowerPC built kdebase3 last time August 7 and ARM on Jul 27.

So what? kdebase3 doesn't fail on o:Factory. Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, SUSE Labs, schwab@suse.de GPG Key fingerprint = 0196 BAD8 1CE9 1970 F4BE 1748 E4D4 88E3 0EEA B9D7 "And now for something completely different." -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org