[opensuse-factory] openSUSE 12.1 update stack testing
I'm trying to test Apper, the renamed latest version of KPackageKit on 12.1 and need to clarify how the update tests *should* work. If I revert all the update-test- packages to their 12.1 vanilla versions, I see update-test-affects-package-manager as the only update. However, installing this update also pulls in every other update-test- package, immediately. Expected behaviour would be for update-test-package- manager to install, Apper to restart itself, then for it to present the other update-test-packages. Since update-test-affects-package-manager does not require or recommend any of these packages, I looked at http://download.opensuse.org/12.1/repodata/updateinfo.xml.gz, and this lists all the other packages as belonging to the update with id update-test-affects- package-manager. Is this correct? If so, what is the mechanism that causes u-t-a-p-m to pull in the other u-t packages? Will -- Will Stephenson, KDE Developer, openSUSE Boosters Team SUSE LINUX GmbH, GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstraße 5 90409 Nürnberg Germany -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 26.10.2011 13:21, Will Stephenson wrote:
The same happens with zypper patch IIRC
It looks like a bug in the update-test packages to me. -- Stefan Seyfried "Dispatch war rocket Ajax to bring back his body!" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 26 October 2011 13:24:26 Stefan Seyfried wrote:
Comparing the update-test updateinfo.xml with the live data for eg 11.1 the reboot_suggested and restart_suggested tags are missing from the relevant packages in 12.1's metadata. Therefore I assume any update stack testing done for 12.1 is invalid. Anyone with a clue want to confirm this for me? Will -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 26 October 2011, Will Stephenson wrote:
Yes, the current ones are broken. We're working on the opensuse buildservice based system, but that one is also currently not finished, so it'll take a bit more. Thanks, Dirk -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 01:58:14PM +0200, Dirk Müller wrote:
WIll, you could juse use the 11.4 updates for testing, probably needs a 11.4 base? Otherwise Dirk needs to fix it first. Ciao, Marcus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 26 Oct 2011 14:03:03 Marcus Meissner wrote:
It's hardly 'test what you fly, and fly what you test' is it? I can only show that Apper has no regressions vs KPackageKit on 11.4 update stack, when we know that the components are notoriously tightly coupled. I'll do this in a VM now, but would it be possible to generate update-test metadata using the old system for now? We have 2 days to RC2 and irrespective of KDE only issues, the rest of the stack needs testing or we risk shipping a release that can't be fixed later.</statingtheobvious> Will -- Will Stephenson, openSUSE Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Stephan Kulow wrote:
Would it be possible to release all checkins since RC1 as patches for testing purposes? What would be required to make that happen? cu Ludwig -- (o_ Ludwig Nussel //\ V_/_ http://www.suse.de/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Am Mittwoch, 26. Oktober 2011 schrieb Ludwig Nussel:
Talk to Dirk and Benjamin - they are working on setting up the new maintenance project. Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 26 Oct 2011 15:27:17 Stephan Kulow wrote:
Good work, Rudi. But the update-test-interactive package is still missing from /update/12.1, could you add it please? Will -- Will Stephenson, openSUSE Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Am Mittwoch, 26. Oktober 2011, 16:26:42 schrieb Will Stephenson: [....]
sorry, can't find any valid example for this yet. The interactive stuff was IMHO never implemented for 11.x (libzypp/satsolver variant). The only ones I can find are reboot_needed and so on, and we already have these.
Will
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On Wednesday 26 October 2011, Dirk Müller wrote:
they will be found here: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/12.1:/Update/standard/ so please use that as an update channel (it is currently empty). Thanks, Dirk -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 26 October 2011 13:21:55 Will Stephenson wrote:
Lacking documentation on the updateinfo.xml schema, I compared the 12.1 test metadata to the current 11.1 updateinfo.xml. There are no <reboot_suggested> or <restart_suggested> tags in the 12.1 data for the relevant packages, so I guess the 12.1 test data is buggy and any update stack testing performed for 12.1 so far is invalid :(. Will -- Will Stephenson, KDE Developer, openSUSE Boosters Team SUSE LINUX GmbH, GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstraße 5 90409 Nürnberg Germany -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 26.10.2011 13:21, Will Stephenson wrote:
The same happens with zypper patch IIRC
It looks like a bug in the update-test packages to me. -- Stefan Seyfried "Dispatch war rocket Ajax to bring back his body!" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 26 October 2011 13:24:26 Stefan Seyfried wrote:
Comparing the update-test updateinfo.xml with the live data for eg 11.1 the reboot_suggested and restart_suggested tags are missing from the relevant packages in 12.1's metadata. Therefore I assume any update stack testing done for 12.1 is invalid. Anyone with a clue want to confirm this for me? Will -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 26 October 2011, Will Stephenson wrote:
Yes, the current ones are broken. We're working on the opensuse buildservice based system, but that one is also currently not finished, so it'll take a bit more. Thanks, Dirk -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 01:58:14PM +0200, Dirk Müller wrote:
WIll, you could juse use the 11.4 updates for testing, probably needs a 11.4 base? Otherwise Dirk needs to fix it first. Ciao, Marcus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 26 Oct 2011 14:03:03 Marcus Meissner wrote:
It's hardly 'test what you fly, and fly what you test' is it? I can only show that Apper has no regressions vs KPackageKit on 11.4 update stack, when we know that the components are notoriously tightly coupled. I'll do this in a VM now, but would it be possible to generate update-test metadata using the old system for now? We have 2 days to RC2 and irrespective of KDE only issues, the rest of the stack needs testing or we risk shipping a release that can't be fixed later.</statingtheobvious> Will -- Will Stephenson, openSUSE Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
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