Hello, Am Dienstag, 22. August 2017, 22:26:54 CEST schrieb Benoît Monin:

26/07/2017 Tomas Chvatal :

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I am looking for volunteers to maintain the two packages in $SUBJ.

I realized that rzsz was dropped from factory today and just sent the maintainership request.

How do I restore it to factory ? I can't find the package in openSUSE:Dropped

No idea why it isn't in openSUSE:Dropped - someone else will need to answer this. osc se rzsz lists the package in several repos, and it seems Base:System was the devel project. Actually your request to become maintainer there was accepted 5 hours ago. To get the package back into factory, just do a submit request to factory, like you'd do for adding a new package to factory.

and the wiki¹ is a bit scarse.

Yeah, "TBA" isn't really helpful ;-) Feel free to add "if the package still or again exists in the devel repo, do a SR to factory" to the wiki page. Maybe a hint about "osc undelete" could also be helpful - but AFAIK that has to be done by a project maintainer. Regards, Christian Boltz -- [Evolution - Message-ID] Oh ja... Apropos: die libcamel (die fuer diesen Muell verantwortlich ist) ist, aehm. "interessant" zu lesen... Und NEIN! Ich habe keine Lust, den Muell zu fixen. Es sei denn, man zahlt mir Schmerzensgeld. [David Haller in suse-linux] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

On Aug 22 2017, Christian Boltz <opensuse@cboltz.de> wrote:

No idea why it isn't in openSUSE:Dropped - someone else will need to answer this.

openSUSE:Dropped is no longer used. Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, SUSE Labs, schwab@suse.de GPG Key fingerprint = 0196 BAD8 1CE9 1970 F4BE 1748 E4D4 88E3 0EEA B9D7 "And now for something completely different." -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

On Montag, 4. September 2017 16:31:43 CEST James Knott wrote:

On 09/04/2017 10:27 AM, David Sterba wrote:

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I'd like to keep wvdial around, I use it for connecting my laptop(s) through a mobile phone on occasion.

Does anyone still do that? I haven't used dial up for almost 15 years. My cell phone provides a network connection.

Connecting the computer to the internet using my mobile phone, yes. But I have not seen a mobile phone which exposes an actual modem for years, but some kind of ethernet connectivity, i.e. WLAN and/or Ethernet-over-USB (ECM). For USB-WWAN sticks (which do expose a modem(-lookalike)), I prefer using ModemManager + NetworkManager. Works great, and provides me with realtime information about the physical layer connection (2G, 3G, 4G, signal strength, ...). Kind regards, -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

On Monday 2017-09-04 16:31, James Knott wrote:

On 09/04/2017 10:27 AM, David Sterba wrote:

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I'd like to keep wvdial around, I use it for connecting my laptop(s) through a mobile phone on occasion.

Does anyone still do that? I haven't used dial up for almost 15 years. My cell phone provides a network connection.

Exporting/sharing a connection (over WLAN, BT or USB) is different. If that functionality is available, use it. Dealing with modems and modem software directly is not a lot of fun I can tell. The Hayes Command Set, if you choose to use it, has a "dial" command that must be used, even if there is no concept of dialing on modern data networks. So you just input a magic code. ATDT*99# CONNECT ~}#!}!}!} }4}"}&} } } } }%}&}"ڑ}'}"}(}"[~~}#!}!}!} }4}"}&} } } } }%}&}"ڑ}'}"}(}"[~~}#!}!}!} }4}"}&} } } } }%}&}"ڑ}'}"}(}"[~~}#!}!}!} }4}"}&} } } } }%}&}"ڑ}'}"}(}"[~~}#!}!}!} }4}"}&} } } } }%}&}"ڑ}'}"}(}"[~~}#!}!}!} }4}"}&} } } } }%}&}"ڑ}'}"}(}"[~~}#!}!}!} }4}"}&} } } } }%}&}"ڑ}'}"}(}"[~~}#!}!}!} }4}"}&} } } } }%}&}"ڑ}'}"}(}"[~~}#!}!}!} }4}"}&} } } } }%}&}"ڑ}'}"}(}"[~~}#!}!}!} }4}"}&} } } } }%}&}"ڑ}'}"}(}"[~ Seems like the modern chips no longer support voice calling (the old way of modems talking). ATDT004917612345678 NO CARRIER But given a sufficiently vintage modem (perhaps with a vintage phone), that could be another way of getting a data line, though not a generally well-performing one. And that's probably why they still call it dialing... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

On 09/04/2017 11:32 AM, Per Jessen wrote:

Doesn't need to be so vintage - a USB GSM modem will typically appear as a serial port to be operated with the AT comand set (plus extensions). We're using one those for sending alert SMS'es. Not with wvdial though.

I had that, but it was 2 and 3 phones back. My current and previous phones both support tethering over USB or WiFi, which make it no different than plugging into my home network. My current notebook computer doesn't even have a serial port of dial up modem. The previous one came with a built in modem, but I lost that when I upgraded the WiFi from 802.11b to 802.11g. The modem was part of the same module as the old WiFi. The only time I need a serial port these days is when I connect to the console port on routers and switches. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

On 11/09/17 19:10, Per Jessen wrote:

Simon Lees wrote:

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On 26/07/17 17:27, Tomas Chvatal wrote:

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Hello all,

I am looking for volunteers to maintain the two packages in $SUBJ.

We are cleaning up for SLE15 and these two will end up without maintainer.

osc reqms network wvdial osc reqms Base:System rzsz

As such if nobody steps up lets say until 26.8. I will fill up droprequest for them (Later on of course they can be re-introduced by someone who would care enough).

Cheers

Tom

It seems to have made its way back in already, but i'll help with rzsz, its needed by minicom which I very much still use / maintain.

oh yes, I can't work without minicom. I know rzsz can be used by minicom, I didn't know it was a hard requirement.

For now rzsz seems to build and run fine so we don't need to work out if it should also be dropped. -- Simon Lees (Simotek) http://simotek.net Emergency Update Team keybase.io/simotek SUSE Linux Adelaide Australia, UTC+10:30 GPG Fingerprint: 5B87 DB9D 88DC F606 E489 CEC5 0922 C246 02F0 014B

Hello, Am Dienstag, 22. August 2017, 22:26:54 CEST schrieb Benoît Monin:

26/07/2017 Tomas Chvatal :

...

I am looking for volunteers to maintain the two packages in $SUBJ.

I realized that rzsz was dropped from factory today and just sent the maintainership request.

How do I restore it to factory ? I can't find the package in openSUSE:Dropped

No idea why it isn't in openSUSE:Dropped - someone else will need to answer this. osc se rzsz lists the package in several repos, and it seems Base:System was the devel project. Actually your request to become maintainer there was accepted 5 hours ago. To get the package back into factory, just do a submit request to factory, like you'd do for adding a new package to factory.

and the wiki¹ is a bit scarse.

Yeah, "TBA" isn't really helpful ;-) Feel free to add "if the package still or again exists in the devel repo, do a SR to factory" to the wiki page. Maybe a hint about "osc undelete" could also be helpful - but AFAIK that has to be done by a project maintainer. Regards, Christian Boltz -- [Evolution - Message-ID] Oh ja... Apropos: die libcamel (die fuer diesen Muell verantwortlich ist) ist, aehm. "interessant" zu lesen... Und NEIN! Ich habe keine Lust, den Muell zu fixen. Es sei denn, man zahlt mir Schmerzensgeld. [David Haller in suse-linux] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

On Aug 22 2017, Christian Boltz <opensuse@cboltz.de> wrote:

No idea why it isn't in openSUSE:Dropped - someone else will need to answer this.

openSUSE:Dropped is no longer used. Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, SUSE Labs, schwab@suse.de GPG Key fingerprint = 0196 BAD8 1CE9 1970 F4BE 1748 E4D4 88E3 0EEA B9D7 "And now for something completely different." -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

On Montag, 4. September 2017 16:31:43 CEST James Knott wrote:

On 09/04/2017 10:27 AM, David Sterba wrote:

...

I'd like to keep wvdial around, I use it for connecting my laptop(s) through a mobile phone on occasion.

Does anyone still do that? I haven't used dial up for almost 15 years. My cell phone provides a network connection.

Connecting the computer to the internet using my mobile phone, yes. But I have not seen a mobile phone which exposes an actual modem for years, but some kind of ethernet connectivity, i.e. WLAN and/or Ethernet-over-USB (ECM). For USB-WWAN sticks (which do expose a modem(-lookalike)), I prefer using ModemManager + NetworkManager. Works great, and provides me with realtime information about the physical layer connection (2G, 3G, 4G, signal strength, ...). Kind regards, -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

On Monday 2017-09-04 16:31, James Knott wrote:

On 09/04/2017 10:27 AM, David Sterba wrote:

...

I'd like to keep wvdial around, I use it for connecting my laptop(s) through a mobile phone on occasion.

Does anyone still do that? I haven't used dial up for almost 15 years. My cell phone provides a network connection.

Exporting/sharing a connection (over WLAN, BT or USB) is different. If that functionality is available, use it. Dealing with modems and modem software directly is not a lot of fun I can tell. The Hayes Command Set, if you choose to use it, has a "dial" command that must be used, even if there is no concept of dialing on modern data networks. So you just input a magic code. ATDT*99# CONNECT ~}#!}!}!} }4}"}&} } } } }%}&}"ڑ}'}"}(}"[~~}#!}!}!} }4}"}&} } } } }%}&}"ڑ}'}"}(}"[~~}#!}!}!} }4}"}&} } } } }%}&}"ڑ}'}"}(}"[~~}#!}!}!} }4}"}&} } } } }%}&}"ڑ}'}"}(}"[~~}#!}!}!} }4}"}&} } } } }%}&}"ڑ}'}"}(}"[~~}#!}!}!} }4}"}&} } } } }%}&}"ڑ}'}"}(}"[~~}#!}!}!} }4}"}&} } } } }%}&}"ڑ}'}"}(}"[~~}#!}!}!} }4}"}&} } } } }%}&}"ڑ}'}"}(}"[~~}#!}!}!} }4}"}&} } } } }%}&}"ڑ}'}"}(}"[~~}#!}!}!} }4}"}&} } } } }%}&}"ڑ}'}"}(}"[~ Seems like the modern chips no longer support voice calling (the old way of modems talking). ATDT004917612345678 NO CARRIER But given a sufficiently vintage modem (perhaps with a vintage phone), that could be another way of getting a data line, though not a generally well-performing one. And that's probably why they still call it dialing... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

On 09/04/2017 11:32 AM, Per Jessen wrote:

Doesn't need to be so vintage - a USB GSM modem will typically appear as a serial port to be operated with the AT comand set (plus extensions). We're using one those for sending alert SMS'es. Not with wvdial though.

I had that, but it was 2 and 3 phones back. My current and previous phones both support tethering over USB or WiFi, which make it no different than plugging into my home network. My current notebook computer doesn't even have a serial port of dial up modem. The previous one came with a built in modem, but I lost that when I upgraded the WiFi from 802.11b to 802.11g. The modem was part of the same module as the old WiFi. The only time I need a serial port these days is when I connect to the console port on routers and switches. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org