[opensuse-factory] we have a beta3 - but why the different content types in the directories?
... <http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1-Beta3/iso/> vs. <http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1-Beta2/iso/> contents. cheers. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Am Mittwoch 22 Oktober 2008 schrieb ab:
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<http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1-Beta3/iso/> vs. <http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1-Beta2/iso/> contents.
We wanted to try something new :) Seriously: we want to automate the distribution building more than it is usually. And so we decided to go for a more stream line directory structure. Is there any concrete problem with it? Greetings, Stephan -- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Stephan Kulow wrote:
Is there any concrete problem with it?
not really. i was just scared at first that there werent any torrent files but only seemingly the iso and delta files. thanks :) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
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Am Mittwoch 22 Oktober 2008 schrieb ab:
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<http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1-Beta3/iso/> vs. <http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1-Beta2/iso/> contents.
We wanted to try something new :)
Seriously: we want to automate the distribution building more than it is usually. And so we decided to go for a more stream line directory structure.
Is there any concrete problem with it?
Greetings, Stephan
When I go to http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1-Beta3/iso/ it shows the B2-B3 x86 delta as being 488M, but the actual downloaded file is much smaller. What gives with that? -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 12:02:26PM -0400, Ken Schneider wrote:
Stephan Kulow pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
Am Mittwoch 22 Oktober 2008 schrieb ab:
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<http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1-Beta3/iso/> vs. <http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1-Beta2/iso/> contents.
We wanted to try something new :)
Seriously: we want to automate the distribution building more than it is usually. And so we decided to go for a more stream line directory structure.
Is there any concrete problem with it?
Greetings, Stephan
When I go to http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1-Beta3/iso/ it shows the B2-B3 x86 delta as being 488M, but the actual downloaded file is much smaller. What gives with that?
We exchanged that file late in the process, because it was broken. There seems to be a mirror, which didn't get the new file yet. Best, Christoph -- Christoph Thiel, Tech. Project Management, Research & Development SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Ken Schneider wrote:
When I go to http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1-Beta3/iso/ it shows the B2-B3 x86 delta as being 488M, but the actual downloaded file is much smaller. What gives with that?
openSUSE-11.1-Beta2_Beta3-DVD-i386.delta.iso is reported as 488M, but the size of the downloaded file is 220M in some mirrors. The md5sum of the smaller file does not match the md5sum as published in the web site. The file in ftp5.gwdg.de seems to have the right size and it matches the checksum. -- Rafael E. Herrera -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, 2008-10-22 at 14:23 -0400, Rafael E. Herrera wrote:
To: opensuse@opensuse.org Cc: opensuse-factory@opensuse.org
Please, do not crosspost.
openSUSE-11.1-Beta2_Beta3-DVD-i386.delta.iso is reported as 488M, but the size of the downloaded file is 220M in some mirrors.
Perhaps because the mirror is still downloading it. Wait, and if it doesn't get corrected, report it. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkj/fA8ACgkQtTMYHG2NR9X8agCfTEfFBdNdWDBZr2kXxa6+/pfs vjQAnAmFJvRqm3DPr6kMTPFPZd26A9Y4 =BFUP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 22 October 2008 21:16:29 Carlos E. R. wrote:
openSUSE-11.1-Beta2_Beta3-DVD-i386.delta.iso is reported as 488M, but the size of the downloaded file is 220M in some mirrors.
Perhaps because the mirror is still downloading it. Wait, and if it doesn't get corrected, report it.
I don't think too many mirrors download their files directly to a publicly accessible directory while they are readable. If they did, I would consider that a bug in itself, since it would cause too many bad downloads I also think any sensible sync should first delete old files, or at least move them out of the way, before downloading the new, since otherwise people might get old bad files Anders -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, 2008-10-22 at 17:17 +0200, Stephan Kulow wrote:
Am Mittwoch 22 Oktober 2008 schrieb ab:
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<http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1-Beta3/iso/> vs. <http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1-Beta2/iso/> contents.
We wanted to try something new :)
I see another discrepancy. In <http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/README.Factory> it says: ] Factory has been moved one level up in the factory directory. ] ] http://download.opensuse.org/factory/ But there I can only see, in <http://download.opensuse.org/factory/iso/> [ ] openSUSE-11-mini-i5861.iso 17-Oct-2008 19:21 129M Mirrors Metalink [ ] openSUSE-11-mini-x86_641.iso 17-Oct-2008 19:25 156M Mirrors Metalink On the other hand, under <http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/> there are both "11.1-Beta2" and "11.1-Beta3" trees. I find this very confusing. Another confusion: If in <http://software.opensuse.org/developer> you click on "Expert view" you are taken to <http://software.opensuse.org/expert.html> which only has data for the released version, not the development version. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkkAWtwACgkQtTMYHG2NR9XVkQCfekN10S/cypSobtF/FSebWpxZ rdkAn10zoYnmzO/hz9alIgstCzsDp5ZN =Zj3i -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Carlos E. R. skrev:
On Wednesday, 2008-10-22 at 17:17 +0200, Stephan Kulow wrote:
Am Mittwoch 22 Oktober 2008 schrieb ab:
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<http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1-Beta3/iso/> vs. <http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1-Beta2/iso/> contents.
We wanted to try something new :)
I see another discrepancy.
In <http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/README.Factory> it says:
] Factory has been moved one level up in the factory directory. ] ] http://download.opensuse.org/factory/
But there I can only see, in <http://download.opensuse.org/factory/iso/>
[ ] openSUSE-11-mini-i5861.iso 17-Oct-2008 19:21 129M Mirrors Metalink [ ] openSUSE-11-mini-x86_641.iso 17-Oct-2008 19:25 156M Mirrors Metalink
On the other hand, under <http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/> there are both "11.1-Beta2" and "11.1-Beta3" trees.
I find this very confusing.
isn't that because beta2 and beta3 are _releases_ which are all under /distribution? and /factory is current development tree..
Another confusion:
If in <http://software.opensuse.org/developer> you click on "Expert view" you are taken to <http://software.opensuse.org/expert.html> which only has data for the released version, not the development version.
-- Cheers, Carlos E. R.
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Am Donnerstag 23 Oktober 2008 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
On Wednesday, 2008-10-22 at 17:17 +0200, Stephan Kulow wrote:
Am Mittwoch 22 Oktober 2008 schrieb ab:
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<http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1-Beta3/iso/> vs. <http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1-Beta2/iso/> contents.
We wanted to try something new :)
I see another discrepancy.
In <http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/README.Factory> it says:
] Factory has been moved one level up in the factory directory. ] ] http://download.opensuse.org/factory/
But there I can only see, in <http://download.opensuse.org/factory/iso/>
[ ] openSUSE-11-mini-i5861.iso 17-Oct-2008 19:21 129M Mirrors Metalink [ ] openSUSE-11-mini-x86_641.iso 17-Oct-2008 19:25 156M Mirrors Metalink
On the other hand, under <http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/> there are both "11.1-Beta2" and "11.1-Beta3" trees.
I find this very confusing.
How so? I can't see the problem. Greetings, Stephan -- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Stephan Kulow wrote:
Am Donnerstag 23 Oktober 2008 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
On the other hand, under <http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/> there are both "11.1-Beta2" and "11.1-Beta3" trees.
I find this very confusing.
How so? I can't see the problem.
Would you like to rather have: http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/Beta2 http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/Beta3 instead of the current solution? http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1-Beta2 http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1-Beta3 B. L.
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, 2008-10-23 at 14:10 +0200, Lukas Ocilka wrote:
I find this very confusing.
How so? I can't see the problem.
Would you like to rather have:
http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/Beta2 http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/Beta3
instead of the current solution?
http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1-Beta2 http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1-Beta3
I would prefer: http://download.opensuse.org/factory/11.1-Beta2 http://download.opensuse.org/factory/11.1-Beta3 http://download.opensuse.org/factory/iso http://download.opensuse.org/factory/repo or: http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/factory/11.1-Beta2 http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/factory/11.1-Beta3 http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/factory/iso http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/factory/repo - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkkAcU4ACgkQtTMYHG2NR9UznACdGejpqHhw0iPePpdVbDudIoTi CaIAniz53fEQmUDcpJmJphnxvs+M7Wj8 =f5uT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 23 October 2008 07:10:00 am Lukas Ocilka wrote:
Would you like to rather have:
http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/Beta2 http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/Beta3
It will make sense when browsing the tree. -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, 2008-10-23 at 14:06 +0200, Stephan Kulow wrote:
I see another discrepancy.
In <http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/README.Factory> it says:
] Factory has been moved one level up in the factory directory. ] ] http://download.opensuse.org/factory/
But there I can only see, in <http://download.opensuse.org/factory/iso/>
[ ] openSUSE-11-mini-i5861.iso 17-Oct-2008 19:21 129M Mirrors Metalink [ ] openSUSE-11-mini-x86_641.iso 17-Oct-2008 19:25 156M Mirrors Metalink
On the other hand, under <http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/> there are both "11.1-Beta2" and "11.1-Beta3" trees.
I find this very confusing.
How so? I can't see the problem.
Well, for one thing, factory is divided on two different places in the download.opensuse.org site. It should be all on just one place, IMO. The other problem is that the download development page switches to the download stable version if you select expert view, when it should show the expert view of the develpment version, or an error. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkkAcGAACgkQtTMYHG2NR9WKhwCfddGuoz2KkRA7EDScyZdzBqCR MvUAn0jph/toNQm7Og3iIfer+iV7ZAPI =Sehg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Am Donnerstag 23 Oktober 2008 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
Well, for one thing, factory is divided on two different places in the download.opensuse.org site. It should be all on just one place, IMO.
The other problem is that the download development page switches to the download stable version if you select expert view, when it should show the expert view of the develpment version, or an error.
Beta is not part of Factory, Factory is just the source of it. Just as you don't put apple juice in trees - if that makes sense. Greetings, Stephan -- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, 2008-10-23 at 15:42 +0200, Stephan Kulow wrote:
Am Donnerstag 23 Oktober 2008 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
Well, for one thing, factory is divided on two different places in the download.opensuse.org site. It should be all on just one place, IMO.
The other problem is that the download development page switches to the download stable version if you select expert view, when it should show the expert view of the develpment version, or an error.
Beta is not part of Factory, Factory is just the source of it. Just as you don't put apple juice in trees - if that makes sense.
It isn't? Now I'm much more confused and surprised. For me, a beta is just a snapshot of factory at a certain date: ie, it is factory. Now you say it is not? I don't understand anything. And what about the second problem I mentioned? - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkkAh4cACgkQtTMYHG2NR9WtUQCgjAxnv5m2jbrO85MeCRMRojXN Lf8An0cxnKHTNtZSO3PacM2SoyMfihLU =FqN2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Am Donnerstag 23 October 2008 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
Beta is not part of Factory, Factory is just the source of it. Just as you don't put apple juice in trees - if that makes sense.
It isn't? Now I'm much more confused and surprised. For me, a beta is just a snapshot of factory at a certain date: ie, it is factory. Now you say it is not? I don't understand anything. Yeah - just juice is a snapshot of apples at a certain date. Still does not fit in trees. We seem to have different philosophies here ;)
And what about the second problem I mentioned? Report a bug against the web site? Seemed highly unrelated to this thread to me.
Greetings, Stephan -- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
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