[opensuse-factory] Why does openSUSE use an old version of clisp

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Cecil Westerhof

11 Jan 2010 11 Jan '10

04:43

openSUSE uses clisp 2.44.1. This is from February 2008 and the latest version is 2.48. Why does openSUSE not use a more recent version? -- Cecil Westerhof LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/cecilwesterhof -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

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Robert Schweikert

11 Jan 11 Jan

05:18

Cecil Westerhof wrote:

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openSUSE uses clisp 2.44.1. This is from February 2008 and the latest version is 2.48. Why does openSUSE not use a more recent version?

Probably a maintainer resource issue. If you have interest in the package, maybe you could upgrade it and maintain it. Here is a starting point: http://en.opensuse.org/SUSE_Build_Tutorial Robert

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Cecil Westerhof

08:25

Robert Schweikert writes:

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openSUSE uses clisp 2.44.1. This is from February 2008 and the latest version is 2.48. Why does openSUSE not use a more recent version?

Probably a maintainer resource issue. If you have interest in the package, maybe you could upgrade it and maintain it.

Here is a starting point: http://en.opensuse.org/SUSE_Build_Tutorial

I just started with Common Lisp and I am using clisp because this one is in the repository. In the future I properly will switch to sbcl. But in principal I would not mind to maintain clisp (and maybe also sbcl). But how much time I should expect I need to invest? One problem: You should have a good understanding about the creation of RPMs. I have never done that. Is that hard to learn? -- Decebal Computing Voor uw ICT oplossingen Cecil Westerhof Senior Software Engineer M Cecil@Decebal.nl W http://www.decebal.nl LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/cecilwesterhof -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Dominique Leuenberger

08:29

New subject: [opensuse-factory] Why does openSUSE use an old version of clisp

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On 01/11/2010 at 5:25 PM, Cecil Westerhof wrote: One problem: You should have a good understanding about the creation of RPMs.

Hi http://dominique.leuenberger.net/blog/?p=5 can possibly give you some starting hint. Mainly it's to understnad that the spec file is split in several sections. Most sections are simple shell scripts (with some macros to make it 'easier' in the long term. Give it a try... it's not as hard as it seems! And whenever you might run in a problem, simply ask on the opensuse-packaging mailing list. most problems are resolved very quickly. Dominique -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Ciro Iriarte

12 Jan 12 Jan

11:03

2010/1/11 Dominique Leuenberger :

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On 01/11/2010 at 5:25 PM, Cecil Westerhof wrote: One problem: You should have a good understanding about the creation of RPMs.

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A big plus is that there's a working SPEC file already, and the version change is minimal. Being optimistic, probably you don't even have to adjust anything, just replace the tarball and upgrade the version. Even if patches have been merged and some changes are needed, it'll be a lot easier for a packaging neophyte than starting a SPEC from scratch. Regards, -- Ciro Iriarte http://cyruspy.wordpress.com -- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Dr. Werner Fink

11 Jan 11 Jan

08:42

On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 05:25:28PM +0100, Cecil Westerhof wrote:

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Robert Schweikert writes:

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openSUSE uses clisp 2.44.1. This is from February 2008 and the latest version is 2.48. Why does openSUSE not use a more recent version?

Probably a maintainer resource issue. If you have interest in the package, maybe you could upgrade it and maintain it.

Correct as I'm out of time to hunt every version of clisp and currently there is no libffcall for all architectures nor does clisp work on all architectures which is very annoying (this is system inherent as clips uses architecture depending assembler code)

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Here is a starting point: http://en.opensuse.org/SUSE_Build_Tutorial

I just started with Common Lisp and I am using clisp because this one is in the repository. In the future I properly will switch to sbcl. But in principal I would not mind to maintain clisp (and maybe also sbcl). But how much time I should expect I need to invest?

One problem: You should have a good understanding about the creation of RPMs.

you may use my OSB spex as starting point :) Werner -- "Having a smoking section in a restaurant is like having a peeing section in a swimming pool." -- Edward Burr -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Cecil Westerhof

09:28

"Dr. Werner Fink" writes:

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openSUSE uses clisp 2.44.1. This is from February 2008 and the latest version is 2.48. Why does openSUSE not use a more recent version?

Probably a maintainer resource issue. If you have interest in the package, maybe you could upgrade it and maintain it.

Correct as I'm out of time to hunt every version of clisp and currently there is no libffcall for all architectures nor does clisp work on all architectures which is very annoying (this is system inherent as clips uses architecture depending assembler code)

If I understand this correctly it will be a can of worms, especially for someone who starts. And I can only build for Intel/AMD 32-bit (maybe also 64-bit). Does that not disqualify me?

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One problem: You should have a good understanding about the creation of RPMs.

you may use my OSB spex as starting point :)

Do you have a link? -- Cecil Westerhof Senior Software Engineer LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/cecilwesterhof -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Dr. Werner Fink

12 Jan 12 Jan

01:03

On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 06:28:07PM +0100, Cecil Westerhof wrote:

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openSUSE uses clisp 2.44.1. This is from February 2008 and the latest version is 2.48. Why does openSUSE not use a more recent version?

Probably a maintainer resource issue. If you have interest in the package, maybe you could upgrade it and maintain it.

Correct as I'm out of time to hunt every version of clisp and currently there is no libffcall for all architectures nor does clisp work on all architectures which is very annoying (this is system inherent as clips uses architecture depending assembler code)

If I understand this correctly it will be a can of worms, especially for someone who starts. And I can only build for Intel/AMD 32-bit (maybe also 64-bit). Does that not disqualify me?

No it does not. You may use OBS for e.g. ppc.

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One problem: You should have a good understanding about the creation of RPMs.

you may use my OSB spex as starting point :)

Do you have a link?

https://build.opensuse.org/package/show?package=clisp&project=home%3AWernerFink%3AFactory https://build.opensuse.org/package/show?package=clisp&project=openSUSE%3AFactory Happy hacking Werner -- "Having a smoking section in a restaurant is like having a peeing section in a swimming pool." -- Edward Burr -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Robert Schweikert

11 Jan 11 Jan

08:49

Cecil Westerhof wrote:

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Robert Schweikert writes:

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openSUSE uses clisp 2.44.1. This is from February 2008 and the latest version is 2.48. Why does openSUSE not use a more recent version? Probably a maintainer resource issue. If you have interest in the package, maybe you could upgrade it and maintain it.

Here is a starting point: http://en.opensuse.org/SUSE_Build_Tutorial

I just started with Common Lisp and I am using clisp because this one is in the repository. In the future I properly will switch to sbcl. But in principal I would not mind to maintain clisp (and maybe also sbcl). But how much time I should expect I need to invest?

One problem: You should have a good understanding about the creation of RPMs.

I have never done that. Is that hard to learn?

It's not that difficult, far easier than Lisp as far as I am concerned. As far as clisp is concerned since there is already a package you can use the existing spec file as your template and learn as you go and make changes. You can also look at the Junior Bugs page http://en.opensuse.org/Junior_Bugs As it has some step by step instructions on how to apply patches etc. Robert

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