[opensuse-factory] [DEL Announce] Compiz will be dropped from Tumbleweed
Hi all, this is the final chance for somebody to step up and give CPR to Compiz. Compiz once used to be this nice thingy, mostly known for projecting desktops onto a cube and making windows wobbly. It's been a long that this package did not have a successul build. First failure was noted on August 1st 2019. Considering the time that has passed, I am but to believe that the current maintainer(s) don't care that much for it anymore. Also the version we have in Factory gives this a bit away: we are at 0.8.16, whereas upstream released 0.9.14.1 in Nov 2019 (so upstream does seema live; not sure if kicking :P ) So, this is basically a wakeup call: if somebody cares a lot for compiz it would be about THAT moment to speak up - and the step up to become the new maintainer. Otherwise, the delete request will be processed, which will include those packages (dep tree) compiz : compicc compiz-emerald compiz-emerald-themes compiz-plugins-experimental compiz-plugins-extra compiz-plugins-main libcompizconfig python-compizconfig simple-ccsm Of course, seeing compiz go makes my heart bleed a little bit - there has been a time in the past where I was actually maintainer of that stack (back in the GNOME 2.x days; when I was using and enjoying compiz) Cheers, Dominique
On 1/22/20 12:46 AM, Dominique Leuenberger / DimStar wrote:
Hi all,
this is the final chance for somebody to step up and give CPR to Compiz.
While I don't use it regularly I did use it in a demo for a talk the other day and I plan on giving that talk again, so i'm happy to keep it going at least in the short to medium term, it still has an active upstream [1]. Having said that it does use lots of depreciated gtk functions so maybe it won't be around for ever. The actual fix seems rather simple at this stage but first i'm working through a bunch of "the changelog isn't in chronological order" issues that I wasn't expecting. If others are more interested in fixing it next time then it would be appreciated if they also add themselves as maintainers so they can also get build fail notifications and help out. 1. https://gitlab.com/compiz -- Simon Lees (Simotek) http://simotek.net Emergency Update Team keybase.io/simotek SUSE Linux Adelaide Australia, UTC+10:30 GPG Fingerprint: 5B87 DB9D 88DC F606 E489 CEC5 0922 C246 02F0 014B
Dominique Leuenberger / DimStar kirjoitti 21.1.2020 > 0.8.16, whereas upstream released 0.9.14.1 in Nov 2019 (so upstream Just FYI some background, since it's complicated. Compiz 0.8 these days is "Compiz Reloaded" that tries to maintain the original Compiz. Compiz 0.9 is a rewritten project that diverged already in 2010-2012 and was used by Ubuntu as part of the default desktop until 2017. It is is maintained by a different community who try to continue where Canonical stopped with Compiz & Unity 7 (and Qt & Unity 8) in 2017. Both are legacy in the sense that they will very likely always be X11 dependent. More info eg at arch wiki: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Compiz#Installation Maybe https://wayfire.org/ can replace the use case in short or long term. -- Best Regards, Timo Jyrinki
On 1/22/20 5:40 PM, Timo Jyrinki wrote:
Dominique Leuenberger / DimStar kirjoitti 21.1.2020 > 0.8.16, whereas upstream released 0.9.14.1 in Nov 2019 (so upstream Just FYI some background, since it's complicated.
Compiz 0.8 these days is "Compiz Reloaded" that tries to maintain the original Compiz.
Compiz 0.9 is a rewritten project that diverged already in 2010-2012 and was used by Ubuntu as part of the default desktop until 2017. It is is maintained by a different community who try to continue where Canonical stopped with Compiz & Unity 7 (and Qt & Unity 8) in 2017.
The 0.8.16.1 is the latest release of Compiz Reloaded which is what openSUSE's maintainers have stuck with in the past, it was released around a year ago an there is more recent changes in there github repo's. I can't really see a compelling reason to switch to 0.9 given that the desktops we ship where compiz still works are mainly xfce and mate, Atleast as of a week ago although it didn't build the last successfully built binaries in the repo still work fine. -- Simon Lees (Simotek) http://simotek.net Emergency Update Team keybase.io/simotek SUSE Linux Adelaide Australia, UTC+10:30 GPG Fingerprint: 5B87 DB9D 88DC F606 E489 CEC5 0922 C246 02F0 014B
On Wed, 22 Jan 2020 18:20:39 +1030 Simon Lees <sflees@suse.de> wrote:
On 1/22/20 5:40 PM, Timo Jyrinki wrote:
Dominique Leuenberger / DimStar kirjoitti 21.1.2020 > 0.8.16, whereas upstream released 0.9.14.1 in Nov 2019 (so upstream Just FYI some background, since it's complicated.
Compiz 0.8 these days is "Compiz Reloaded" that tries to maintain the original Compiz.
Compiz 0.9 is a rewritten project that diverged already in 2010-2012 and was used by Ubuntu as part of the default desktop until 2017. It is is maintained by a different community who try to continue where Canonical stopped with Compiz & Unity 7 (and Qt & Unity 8) in 2017.
The 0.8.16.1 is the latest release of Compiz Reloaded which is what openSUSE's maintainers have stuck with in the past, it was released around a year ago an there is more recent changes in there github repo's.
I can't really see a compelling reason to switch to 0.9 given that the desktops we ship where compiz still works are mainly xfce and mate, Atleast as of a week ago although it didn't build the last successfully built binaries in the repo still work fine.
I would also prefer we stick to the version that we know works with our packaged Xfce and Mate. -- Maurizio Galli (MauG) openSUSE Xfce Team https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Xfce -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
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Dominique Leuenberger / DimStar -
Maurizio Galli (MauG) -
Simon Lees -
Timo Jyrinki