[opensuse-factory] Using Instlux: issues setting up SUSE from Windows
hi all ! I have decided to testcase Instlux (SUSE 10.3 alpha4) - setup from Windows. A testcase that tested a possible situation in which I have got the DVD ISO of SUSE, have Windows XP, but have no CD-ROM drive. This situation can take place if the ISO was copied from friend's hard disk directly, but I have not bought DVD-RW to use that ISO properly. This case also simulates no network or Internet connectivity whatsoever. Offline setup. The results: Instlux itself worked perfectly, installed GRUB for Windows, SUSE kernel, and basic setup routine, and modified NTLDR. The problems I got have to do with SUSE basic setup routine - it's loaded before Yast, and has insufficient functionality for easy setup of SUSE from Windows. "Basic Setup Routine" looks like Blue menu with several installation options. 1. How-to mount ISO (that resides on NTFS) from within SUSE setup? That is: I found no way to mount the ISO that resides on an NTFS partition, so I used an ugly workaround: booted to Windows, used Nero ImageDrive, and copied the contents of the ISO to normal Windows directory. A proper way would be that the "Basic Setup Routine" loop-mounted the ISO. 2. No ability to browse for files on partitions: the "Basic Setup Routine" gave me a way to enter strings, but that's all about it. Basically, if I don't remember my directories (or write down to paper), I have no way to install SUSE from Windows. the "Basic Setup Routine" should offer me a way to browse on my directories. 3. No ability to format /dev/sdX as swap and use it right away. I needed to either increase RAM or boot into rescue system and do tricks... (manually partition and format as swap) Since I was testing on a VM, I just increased the RAM. But that's ugly solution again. the "Basic Setup Routine" should offer me a way to repartition my hard disk, and use one of those partitions as swap. Note: the above are serious usability issues, and I consider to open bug reports. Which category should I assign to those: Installation or Usability ? -- -Alexey Eremenko "Technologov" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
At the end, the Yast installer crashed :( -- -Alexey Eremenko "Technologov" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On 5/18/07, Alexey Eremenko
hi all !
I have decided to testcase Instlux (SUSE 10.3 alpha4) - setup from Windows.
A testcase that tested a possible situation in which I have got the DVD ISO of SUSE, have Windows XP, but have no CD-ROM drive. This situation can take place if the ISO was copied from friend's hard disk directly, but I have not bought DVD-RW to use that ISO properly. This case also simulates no network or Internet connectivity whatsoever. Offline setup.
The results:
Instlux itself worked perfectly, installed GRUB for Windows, SUSE kernel, and basic setup routine, and modified NTLDR.
The problems I got have to do with SUSE basic setup routine - it's loaded before Yast, and has insufficient functionality for easy setup of SUSE from Windows. "Basic Setup Routine" looks like Blue menu with several installation options.
1. How-to mount ISO (that resides on NTFS) from within SUSE setup?
That is: I found no way to mount the ISO that resides on an NTFS partition, so I used an ugly workaround: booted to Windows, used Nero ImageDrive, and copied the contents of the ISO to normal Windows directory.
A proper way would be that the "Basic Setup Routine" loop-mounted the ISO.
2. No ability to browse for files on partitions: the "Basic Setup Routine" gave me a way to enter strings, but that's all about it. Basically, if I don't remember my directories (or write down to paper), I have no way to install SUSE from Windows.
the "Basic Setup Routine" should offer me a way to browse on my directories.
3. No ability to format /dev/sdX as swap and use it right away. I needed to either increase RAM or boot into rescue system and do tricks... (manually partition and format as swap) Since I was testing on a VM, I just increased the RAM. But that's ugly solution again.
the "Basic Setup Routine" should offer me a way to repartition my hard disk, and use one of those partitions as swap.
Note: the above are serious usability issues, and I consider to open bug reports. Which category should I assign to those: Installation or Usability ?
-- -Alexey Eremenko "Technologov"
Hello !? Novell team asked for testing this "Instlux" feature - so why there are zero responses ? -- -Alexey Eremenko "Technologov" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 02:18:43PM +0100, Alexey Eremenko wrote:
On 5/18/07, Alexey Eremenko
wrote: hi all !
I have decided to testcase Instlux (SUSE 10.3 alpha4) - setup from Windows.
A testcase that tested a possible situation in which I have got the DVD ISO of SUSE, have Windows XP, but have no CD-ROM drive. This situation can take place if the ISO was copied from friend's hard disk directly, but I have not bought DVD-RW to use that ISO properly. This case also simulates no network or Internet connectivity whatsoever. Offline setup.
The results:
Instlux itself worked perfectly, installed GRUB for Windows, SUSE kernel, and basic setup routine, and modified NTLDR.
The problems I got have to do with SUSE basic setup routine - it's loaded before Yast, and has insufficient functionality for easy setup of SUSE from Windows. "Basic Setup Routine" looks like Blue menu with several installation options.
1. How-to mount ISO (that resides on NTFS) from within SUSE setup?
That is: I found no way to mount the ISO that resides on an NTFS partition, so I used an ugly workaround: booted to Windows, used Nero ImageDrive, and copied the contents of the ISO to normal Windows directory.
A proper way would be that the "Basic Setup Routine" loop-mounted the ISO.
2. No ability to browse for files on partitions: the "Basic Setup Routine" gave me a way to enter strings, but that's all about it. Basically, if I don't remember my directories (or write down to paper), I have no way to install SUSE from Windows.
the "Basic Setup Routine" should offer me a way to browse on my directories.
3. No ability to format /dev/sdX as swap and use it right away. I needed to either increase RAM or boot into rescue system and do tricks... (manually partition and format as swap) Since I was testing on a VM, I just increased the RAM. But that's ugly solution again.
the "Basic Setup Routine" should offer me a way to repartition my hard disk, and use one of those partitions as swap.
Note: the above are serious usability issues, and I consider to open bug reports. Which category should I assign to those: Installation or Usability ?
-- -Alexey Eremenko "Technologov"
Hello !?
Novell team asked for testing this "Instlux" feature - so why there are zero responses ?
Well, mostly because germany had a public holiday on 17th and so almost all of us had the day off at 18th. But we welcome above points as Bugzillas.. Ciao, Marcus --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Hi Alexey
On Sa 19.05.2007 15:18 Alexey Eremenko
Novell team asked for testing this "Instlux" feature - so why there are zero responses ?
Seems the instlux-maintainer isn't subscribed on this list and is currently out of office. FYI: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=276450 submitted. Happy weekend! Lars --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
El ds 19 de 05 del 2007 a les 15:56 +0200, en/na Lars Rupp va escriure:
Hi Alexey
On Sa 19.05.2007 15:18 Alexey Eremenko
wrote: Novell team asked for testing this "Instlux" feature - so why there are zero responses ?
Seems the instlux-maintainer isn't subscribed on this list and is currently out of office.
Hi, I've forwarded your message to Jordi Massaguer, the person responsible for instlux few hours ago. regards,
FYI: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=276450 submitted.
Happy weekend! Lars
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Alexey Eremenko
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Jordi Bruguera i Cortada
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Lars Rupp
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Marcus Meissner