[opensuse-factory] Using upstream artwork for Plasma 5
Hello everyone, with the huge help of Tomas, we've been taking a look at the current openSUSE bugs with regards to KDE software. One major pain point that emerged invovles artwork: themes changed quite a bit in the Plasma 4.x -> 5 transition and that caused all sort of issues (some subtle, some glaring). We (the KDE team) have been discussing this among ourselves and there are some problems ahead: 1. Neither of us is an artist; 2. Neither of us has the time / commitment to update the artwork; 3. The upstream artwork is moving very fast, so we'd have to play catch up. Therefore we will drop the custom artwork for Plasma 5 and use what upstream provides, with the next update. That doesn't mean we'll lose all the branding, just the customized plasma theme, which is the source of most of the artwork bugs reported so far. -- Luca Beltrame - KDE Forums team KDE Science supporter GPG key ID: A29D259B -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 7 December 2015 at 15:49, Luca Beltrame <lbeltrame@kde.org> wrote:
Hello everyone,
with the huge help of Tomas, we've been taking a look at the current openSUSE bugs with regards to KDE software. One major pain point that emerged invovles artwork: themes changed quite a bit in the Plasma 4.x -> 5 transition and that caused all sort of issues (some subtle, some glaring). We (the KDE team) have been discussing this among ourselves and there are some problems ahead:
1. Neither of us is an artist; 2. Neither of us has the time / commitment to update the artwork; 3. The upstream artwork is moving very fast, so we'd have to play catch up.
Therefore we will drop the custom artwork for Plasma 5 and use what upstream provides, with the next update. That doesn't mean we'll lose all the branding, just the customized plasma theme, which is the source of most of the artwork bugs reported so far.
I think this is a good idea, we did the same with GNOME and it dramatically reduced the amount of problems we had constantly rebasing, tweaking and tuning custom themes While obviously it's not quite as ego-inflating as having a totally custom theme, ultimately I think decisions like this have led to an improved experience for our users, both in the short and the long run. We had a few people volunteer to try and maintain openSUSE specific themes for GNOME, but so far they haven't been able to do so in a way that was able to reasonably keep up with GNOMEs pace of change So I think this is Good decision, thanks to the KDE Team for taking it -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Op maandag 7 december 2015 14:49:05 schreef Luca Beltrame:
Hello everyone,
with the huge help of Tomas, we've been taking a look at the current openSUSE bugs with regards to KDE software. One major pain point that emerged invovles artwork: themes changed quite a bit in the Plasma 4.x -> 5 transition and that caused all sort of issues (some subtle, some glaring). We (the KDE team) have been discussing this among ourselves and there are some problems ahead:
1. Neither of us is an artist; 2. Neither of us has the time / commitment to update the artwork; 3. The upstream artwork is moving very fast, so we'd have to play catch up.
Therefore we will drop the custom artwork for Plasma 5 and use what upstream provides, with the next update. That doesn't mean we'll lose all the branding, just the customized plasma theme, which is the source of most of the artwork bugs reported so far. Cheers Luca and KDE team
The impression already arose that the artwork playes a role from posts on G+, FB and in the openSUSE forums. -- Gertjan Lettink, a.k.a. Knurpht Official openSUSE Member openSUSE Forums Team -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Am 07.12.2015 um 22:49 schrieb Luca Beltrame:
[...] Therefore we will drop the custom artwork for Plasma 5 and use what upstream provides, with the next update. That doesn't mean we'll lose all the branding, just the customized plasma theme, which is the source of most of the artwork bugs reported so far.
What does that mean? Which aspects of Plasma have been customized and will change now? cu Ludwig -- (o_ Ludwig Nussel //\ V_/_ http://www.suse.com/ SUSE Linux GmbH, GF: Felix Imendörffer, Jane Smithard, Graham Norton, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Il Tue, 08 Dec 2015 12:22:31 +0800, Ludwig Nussel ha scritto:
What does that mean? Which aspects of Plasma have been customized and will change now?
The openSUSE visual theme (so visuals of the panel, Plasma dialogs, applets...) will be changed to upstream Breeze. The rest of the branding will be unaffected. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 12/08/2015 02:55 AM, Luca Beltrame wrote:
Il Tue, 08 Dec 2015 12:22:31 +0800, Ludwig Nussel ha scritto:
What does that mean? Which aspects of Plasma have been customized and will change now?
The openSUSE visual theme (so visuals of the panel, Plasma dialogs, applets...) will be changed to upstream Breeze. The rest of the branding will be unaffected.
Luca, This is for Plasma 5.5? Can you provide a screenshot of the upstream look of Breeze? Cheers! Roman IRC: 551368250 ============== -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Dne Út 8. prosince 2015 15:14:02, Roman Bysh napsal(a):
On 12/08/2015 02:55 AM, Luca Beltrame wrote:
Il Tue, 08 Dec 2015 12:22:31 +0800, Ludwig Nussel ha scritto:
What does that mean? Which aspects of Plasma have been customized and will change now?
The openSUSE visual theme (so visuals of the panel, Plasma dialogs, applets...) will be changed to upstream Breeze. The rest of the branding will be unaffected.
Luca,
This is for Plasma 5.5? Can you provide a screenshot of the upstream look of Breeze?
This is how it would look at the current plasma 5.4 on Tumbleweed for you. Tom
participants (6)
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Knurpht - Gertjan Lettink -
Luca Beltrame -
Ludwig Nussel -
Richard Brown -
Roman Bysh -
Tomáš Chvátal