From: Ken Schneider - Factory Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2015 10:41:12 -0400 Message-id: <55A51F88.4040006@bout-tyme.net>

On 07/14/2015 07:42 AM, yac wrote:

On Tue, 14 Jul 2015 13:08:45 +0200 "Carlos E. R." wrote:

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On 2015-07-14 11:25, Thomas Langkamp wrote:

- automatically update/grade the OS daily: by executing zypper up or dup in the background (via cron-job or graphical utility?) AFAIK apper still cannot propose solutions for conflicts and thus might not be feasible for this job.

Never automatically.

Why not for the average joe user? Windows been doing this a long time.

Short answer, this is not windows. Second, any update could make the system unbootable due to third party repos being configured.

Automatic updates or manual ones can both break the system due to third party repos. So whats your point? My points are First: apper is broken for TW (it cannot install packages, says the user aborted installation always) Second: Zypper needs general command line knowledge, and knowledge how to setup sudoers and knowledge about up / dup, and priorities, and recommends, and vendor change. This is clearly too much for a new user to learn at one time. Zypper is for proffesionals. Thus the normal user is stranded with a static tumbleweed that he cannot update sufficiently at the moment. We need a completely new update-automatism or a repaired apper or an easier zypper to attract a broader user base with TW. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org