[opensuse-factory] opensuse 11.3 (m6) and mobile compatibility
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi people, i got today, for the first time, some of the famous usb modem like huawei ones (and not only). i got them coz i am supposed to write something about linux compatibility. on suse 11.2 i'm quite happy, after upgrade usb_modeswitch (from 0.9.6 into OSS to 1.1.2) to latest version (into hardware OBS repo) i had ALL of them working just plug and play. i thought that with suse 11.3 it would be even easier... you know, more recent kernel, more recent packages, more recent everything... instead... well instead, not only none of the worked, but looks their support has been even dropped... usb_modeswitch is not even into factory repo (why???) so... the question is... any reason to drop that important hardware support? someone just forgot to submit requestes or what else? (i am ready to take care of that package and others needed to provide that support on suse 11.3, IMHO it's a MUST HAVE) Regards Andrea - -- - ------------------------------------------ Andrea Florio QSI International School of Brindisi Sys Admin CISCO CCNA Certified openSUSE-Education Administrator openSUSE Official Member (anubisg1) Email: andrea@opensuse.org Packman Packaging Team Email: andrea@links2linux.de Web: http://packman.links2linux.org/ Cell: +39-328-7365667 - ------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.15 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkvy/EoACgkQyCZT87TFPuhnbQCfViAc3US5sHiG+1llFvQZP2kY 8PQAn3QYFgKgunvhQYKhYlxjD/U3trvr =Brl6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Andrea Florio <andrea@opensuse.org> wrote:
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Hi people, i got today, for the first time, some of the famous usb modem like huawei ones (and not only). i got them coz i am supposed to write something about linux compatibility. on suse 11.2 i'm quite happy, after upgrade usb_modeswitch (from 0.9.6 into OSS to 1.1.2) to latest version (into hardware OBS repo) i had ALL of them working just plug and play.
i thought that with suse 11.3 it would be even easier... you know, more recent kernel, more recent packages, more recent everything... instead...
well instead, not only none of the worked, but looks their support has been even dropped... usb_modeswitch is not even into factory repo (why???) so...
the question is... any reason to drop that important hardware support? someone just forgot to submit requestes or what else? (i am ready to take care of that package and others needed to provide that support on suse 11.3, IMHO it's a MUST HAVE)
Regards Andrea
This was discussed on the os-kernel list last week. usb_modeswitch is desired, but it was dropped from factory due to the lack of a maintainer. I don't know if it's too late to get into 11.3 or not. Greg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Il 19/05/2010 00:26, Greg Freemyer ha scritto:
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Andrea Florio <andrea@opensuse.org> wrote:
Hi people, i got today, for the first time, some of the famous usb modem like huawei ones (and not only). i got them coz i am supposed to write something about linux compatibility. on suse 11.2 i'm quite happy, after upgrade usb_modeswitch (from 0.9.6 into OSS to 1.1.2) to latest version (into hardware OBS repo) i had ALL of them working just plug and play.
i thought that with suse 11.3 it would be even easier... you know, more recent kernel, more recent packages, more recent everything... instead...
well instead, not only none of the worked, but looks their support has been even dropped... usb_modeswitch is not even into factory repo (why???) so...
the question is... any reason to drop that important hardware support? someone just forgot to submit requestes or what else? (i am ready to take care of that package and others needed to provide that support on suse 11.3, IMHO it's a MUST HAVE)
Regards Andrea
This was discussed on the os-kernel list last week.
usb_modeswitch is desired, but it was dropped from factory due to the lack of a maintainer. I don't know if it's too late to get into 11.3 or not.
Greg
ok, i am going to take care of it.. it's too important, not have into the repo, means we will loose lots of users that will easly move to ubuntu. i don0t want it, i want suse to be the best distro ever (that's why i pushed so hard on lxde). do not provide such as important package is like killing ourselfs Andrea -- ------------------------------------------ Andrea Florio QSI International School of Brindisi Sys Admin CISCO CCNA Certified openSUSE-Education Administrator openSUSE Official Member (anubisg1) Email: andrea@opensuse.org Packman Packaging Team Email: andrea@links2linux.de Web: http://packman.links2linux.org/ Cell: +39-328-7365667 ------------------------------------------ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 19 May 2010 09:28:59 Andrea Florio wrote:
Il 19/05/2010 00:26, Greg Freemyer ha scritto:
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Andrea Florio <andrea@opensuse.org> wrote:
Hi people, i got today, for the first time, some of the famous usb modem like huawei ones (and not only). i got them coz i am supposed to write something about linux compatibility. on suse 11.2 i'm quite happy, after upgrade usb_modeswitch (from 0.9.6 into OSS to 1.1.2) to latest version (into hardware OBS repo) i had ALL of them working just plug and play.
i thought that with suse 11.3 it would be even easier... you know, more recent kernel, more recent packages, more recent everything... instead...
well instead, not only none of the worked, but looks their support has been even dropped... usb_modeswitch is not even into factory repo (why???) so...
the question is... any reason to drop that important hardware support? someone just forgot to submit requestes or what else? (i am ready to take care of that package and others needed to provide that support on suse 11.3, IMHO it's a MUST HAVE)
Regards Andrea
This was discussed on the os-kernel list last week.
usb_modeswitch is desired, but it was dropped from factory due to the lack of a maintainer. I don't know if it's too late to get into 11.3 or not.
Greg
ok, i am going to take care of it.. it's too important, not have into the repo, means we will loose lots of users that will easly move to ubuntu. i don0t want it, i want suse to be the best distro ever (that's why i pushed so hard on lxde). do not provide such as important package is like killing ourselfs
Andrea, Let me help you with getting it back in factory. I updated it now to the current version and it's in the hardware project. Does that one work for you? I'll get you added as maintainer if you tell me your account, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Program Manager openSUSE, aj@{novell.com,opensuse.org} Twitter: jaegerandi | Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Il 19/05/2010 10:08, Andreas Jaeger ha scritto:
On Wednesday 19 May 2010 09:28:59 Andrea Florio wrote:
Il 19/05/2010 00:26, Greg Freemyer ha scritto:
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Andrea Florio <andrea@opensuse.org> wrote:
Hi people, i got today, for the first time, some of the famous usb modem like huawei ones (and not only). i got them coz i am supposed to write something about linux compatibility. on suse 11.2 i'm quite happy, after upgrade usb_modeswitch (from 0.9.6 into OSS to 1.1.2) to latest version (into hardware OBS repo) i had ALL of them working just plug and play.
i thought that with suse 11.3 it would be even easier... you know, more recent kernel, more recent packages, more recent everything... instead...
well instead, not only none of the worked, but looks their support has been even dropped... usb_modeswitch is not even into factory repo (why???) so...
the question is... any reason to drop that important hardware support? someone just forgot to submit requestes or what else? (i am ready to take care of that package and others needed to provide that support on suse 11.3, IMHO it's a MUST HAVE)
Regards Andrea
This was discussed on the os-kernel list last week.
usb_modeswitch is desired, but it was dropped from factory due to the lack of a maintainer. I don't know if it's too late to get into 11.3 or not.
Greg
ok, i am going to take care of it.. it's too important, not have into the repo, means we will loose lots of users that will easly move to ubuntu. i don0t want it, i want suse to be the best distro ever (that's why i pushed so hard on lxde). do not provide such as important package is like killing ourselfs
Andrea,
Let me help you with getting it back in factory. I updated it now to the current version and it's in the hardware project. Does that one work for you? I'll get you added as maintainer if you tell me your account,
Andreas
Yes, is enought to install that version even on factory to make all my devices working, please consider that "eject /devsr*" doesn't work any time. my OBS user account is "anubisg1" (no quotation marks) Andrea - -- - ------------------------------------------ Andrea Florio QSI International School of Brindisi Sys Admin CISCO CCNA Certified openSUSE-Education Administrator openSUSE Official Member (anubisg1) Email: andrea@opensuse.org Packman Packaging Team Email: andrea@links2linux.de Web: http://packman.links2linux.org/ Cell: +39-328-7365667 - ------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.15 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkvzoLYACgkQyCZT87TFPuh/WgCg48m7T/f7QWmuVGdGQWNhEZwV PpEAoLFlX1Kxo3WB+0NXdS3akHnqDXH/ =E+sn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Am Mittwoch, 19. Mai 2010 09:28:59 schrieb Andrea Florio:
Il 19/05/2010 00:26, Greg Freemyer ha scritto:
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Andrea Florio <andrea@opensuse.org> wrote:
Hi people, i got today, for the first time, some of the famous usb modem like huawei ones (and not only). i got them coz i am supposed to write something about linux compatibility. on suse 11.2 i'm quite happy, after upgrade usb_modeswitch (from 0.9.6 into OSS to 1.1.2) to latest version (into hardware OBS repo) i had ALL of them working just plug and play.
i thought that with suse 11.3 it would be even easier... you know, more recent kernel, more recent packages, more recent everything... instead...
well instead, not only none of the worked, but looks their support has been even dropped... usb_modeswitch is not even into factory repo (why???) so...
the question is... any reason to drop that important hardware support? someone just forgot to submit requestes or what else? (i am ready to take care of that package and others needed to provide that support on suse 11.3, IMHO it's a MUST HAVE)
Regards Andrea
This was discussed on the os-kernel list last week.
usb_modeswitch is desired, but it was dropped from factory due to the lack of a maintainer. I don't know if it's too late to get into 11.3 or not.
Greg
ok, i am going to take care of it.. it's too important, not have into the repo, means we will loose lots of users that will easly move to ubuntu. i don0t want it, i want suse to be the best distro ever (that's why i pushed so hard on lxde). do not provide such as important package is like killing ourselfs
Thanks a lot Andrea! I wonder how Moblin/MeeGo is dealing with this question? Do they use usb-modeswitch or do they have an own solution? I just can't imagine, that MeeGo-Developers also say: "oh, it's crap, we won't use it" To tell the user to call eject /dev/sr0 in a terminal is really not a solution, not even a workaround... -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Marcel Hilzinger Linux New Media AG, Putzbrunner Str. 71, 81739 München, Germany Tel: +49 89 99 34 110, Fax: +49 89 99 34 1199 mhilzinger@linuxnewmedia.de - http://www.linuxnewmedia.de ---------------------------------------------------------- Linux New Media, the Pulse of Open Source: Lawrence, KS - Málaga Manchester - München - São Paulo - Warszawa ---------------------------------------------------------- Sitz der Gesellschaft: Putzbrunner Str. 71, 81739 München Amtsgericht München: HRB 129161 Vorstand: Brian Osborn, Hermann Plank Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Rudolf Strobl -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 10:46:20AM +0200, Marcel Hilzinger wrote:
I wonder how Moblin/MeeGo is dealing with this question? Do they use usb-modeswitch or do they have an own solution? I just can't imagine, that MeeGo-Developers also say:
"oh, it's crap, we won't use it"
To tell the user to call eject /dev/sr0 in a terminal is really not a solution, not even a workaround...
usb-modeswitch does more than just call 'eject' for some devices. It's the only way that a number of them can properly work. As for MeeGo usage, I don't see how that is an openSUSE issue, could you explain the comparison please? thanks, greg k-h p.s. I don't see it in the MeeGo repositories, but that's proabably because no one has yet to try a device that requires it... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Am Mittwoch, 19. Mai 2010 17:21:24 schrieb Greg KH:
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 10:46:20AM +0200, Marcel Hilzinger wrote:
I wonder how Moblin/MeeGo is dealing with this question? Do they use usb-modeswitch or do they have an own solution? I just can't imagine, that MeeGo-Developers also say:
"oh, it's crap, we won't use it"
To tell the user to call eject /dev/sr0 in a terminal is really not a solution, not even a workaround...
usb-modeswitch does more than just call 'eject' for some devices. It's the only way that a number of them can properly work.
As for MeeGo usage, I don't see how that is an openSUSE issue, could you explain the comparison please?
I just imagined, which distribution (after Ubuntu) could be most interested in having proper support for these kind of USB-Devices, and I guess something like meego, which is planned at mobile devices should have a real interest in supporting usb-modeswitch. So I wondered, how do they support UMTS-Sticks and why can OpenSuse not take the same approach. I _fully_ can understand, that seife has no time and is not interested in maintaining usb-modeswitch in his sparetime, but think that support for UMTS devices is a must have for a modern distro an should not depend on some developers spare time but be done via paid developer at Novell. The whole discussion is more a problem of deciding what is important for beeing in OpenSUSE 11.3 and for which tasks do we have paid developers and for which one has OpenSuse to relay on the community fully. I just couldn't understand, how easy it is to drop a real feature. I mean: what would happen, if the maintainer of growisofs would do the same and drop the package without having a replacement? Would we have an OpenSuse 11.3 without a DVD burning tool? I guess many more OpenSUSE users have the same feeling, that this is not a real longterm solution. I'm not involved enough in the OpenSUSE project to really help or to even give advices, but I think some packages concerned as critical by Novell _and_ the OpenSUSE community should be maintained by paid developers in any case. Best regards, Marcel -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Marcel Hilzinger Linux New Media AG, Putzbrunner Str. 71, 81739 München, Germany Tel: +49 89 99 34 110, Fax: +49 89 99 34 1199 mhilzinger@linuxnewmedia.de - http://www.linuxnewmedia.de ---------------------------------------------------------- Linux New Media, the Pulse of Open Source: Lawrence, KS - Málaga Manchester - München - São Paulo - Warszawa ---------------------------------------------------------- Sitz der Gesellschaft: Putzbrunner Str. 71, 81739 München Amtsgericht München: HRB 129161 Vorstand: Brian Osborn, Hermann Plank Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Rudolf Strobl -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 09:28:59AM +0200, Andrea Florio wrote:
ok, i am going to take care of it.. it's too important, not have into the repo, means we will loose lots of users that will easly move to ubuntu. i don0t want it, i want suse to be the best distro ever (that's why i pushed so hard on lxde). do not provide such as important package is like killing ourselfs
Thanks! I would have skipped 11.3 without usb_modeswitch and if it hadn't been added back by the time of 11.3++ I would have switched to a different distribution. ciao Joerg -- Joerg Mayer <jmayer@loplof.de> We are stuck with technology when what we really want is just stuff that works. Some say that should read Microsoft instead of technology. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Onsdag den 19. maj 2010 00:26:26 skrev Greg Freemyer:
This was discussed on the os-kernel list last week.
usb_modeswitch is desired, but it was dropped from factory due to the lack of a maintainer. I don't know if it's too late to get into 11.3 or not.
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