[opensuse-factory] RFC: Green or Gray?
Hi! Factory users of KDE will have noticed: yast is green now. I meant this theming only for installation (it was derived from "Pimp up my installer" mockup) and I still think it's not the best of ideas to have theming everywhere. So I see pros of theming: - people connect yast and installer (when using KDE) - it gives yast an extraordinary look and cons: - it's slightly (on nv driver even dramatically) slower - it does not adapt to the desktop's style and won't ever - it gives yast an extraordinary look Do you see more on either side? Greetings, Stephan -- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Stephan Kulow schreef: | Hi! | | Factory users of KDE will have noticed: yast is green now. | | I meant this theming only for installation (it was derived | from "Pimp up my installer" mockup) and I still think it's | not the best of ideas to have theming everywhere. | | So I see pros of theming: | - people connect yast and installer (when using KDE) | - it gives yast an extraordinary look | | and cons: | - it's slightly (on nv driver even dramatically) slower | - it does not adapt to the desktop's style and won't ever | - it gives yast an extraordinary look | | Do you see more on either side? | | Greetings, Stephan | - - That it works properly is the most important..(update Factory module ~ still broken in factory...) - - Might add an opt to switch off 'skin'? - -- Have a nice day, M9. Now, is the only time that exists. ~ OS: Linux 2.6.24-3-default x86_64 ~ Huidige gebruiker: monkey9@AMD64x2-sfn1 ~ Systeem: openSUSE 11.0 (x86_64) Alpha2 ~ KDE: 3.5.8 "release 39" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.8 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkep0hIACgkQX5/X5X6LpDjldQCgj+bS2cXdsBt0SJeDDQg3iNkU hlkAn1PXG4RtYsnqUB430nXdSx6daj3X =j/bX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Am Mittwoch 06 Februar 2008 schrieb M9.:
- That it works properly is the most important..(update Factory module ~ still broken in factory...)
Which is neither pro nor con.
- Might add an opt to switch off 'skin'? There is: export Y2STYLE=nada
Greetings, Stephan -- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Stephan Kulow napsal(a):
Hi!
Factory users of KDE will have noticed: yast is green now.
I meant this theming only for installation (it was derived from "Pimp up my installer" mockup) and I still think it's not the best of ideas to have theming everywhere.
So I see pros of theming: - people connect yast and installer (when using KDE) - it gives yast an extraordinary look
and cons: - it's slightly (on nv driver even dramatically) slower - it does not adapt to the desktop's style and won't ever - it gives yast an extraordinary look
Do you see more on either side?
Hi, My YaST is White/Gray (retro-look) and I'm fine with it :) - Theming is great, we wanted that feature for a long time - Extraordinary ... hmm, depends on the selected theme :) But that's even better. - Not slower anymore: I had this problem with nv driver but it seems to have vanished after compiling core/qt/... - It wouldn't adapt to my WindowMaker style anyway ;) - Ah, Extraordinary again ;) Again, depends on theme I'll all for the current look (but with pink buttons only!!!) ;) Bye Lukas
Em Quarta, 6 de Fevereiro de 2008, o Stephan Kulow escreveu:
Factory users of KDE will have noticed: yast is green now.
For those who don't test Factory (shame on you!) here is a screenshot: - http://www.cgoncalves.info/images/trash/opensuse-greenmess2.png Running KDE4 I suppose it looks even worse because Oxygen theme is mostly in grey and black colours. -- Regards, Carlos Gonçalves
Onsdag den 6. Februar 2008 16:49:51 skrev Carlos Gonçalves:
Em Quarta, 6 de Fevereiro de 2008, o Stephan Kulow escreveu:
Factory users of KDE will have noticed: yast is green now.
For those who don't test Factory (shame on you!) here is a screenshot: - http://www.cgoncalves.info/images/trash/opensuse-greenmess2.png
I "vote" for it to be green in installation only. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On 07/02/2008, Martin Schlander <suse@linuxin.dk> wrote:
I "vote" for it to be green in installation only.
+1 -- Benjamin Weber --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Feb 7, 2008 1:16 PM, Benji Weber <b.weber@warwick.ac.uk> wrote:
On 07/02/2008, Martin Schlander <suse@linuxin.dk> wrote:
I "vote" for it to be green in installation only.
+2, but maybe the user could choose the new look (which is way too cool, btw) in some sysconfig var, for example. Regards Marcio Ferreira --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
+2, but maybe the user could choose the new look (which is way too cool, btw) in some sysconfig var, for example.
I agree. Grey by default, and, if possible, the option of choosing. Regards, Alberto --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Hi,
I meant this theming only for installation (it was derived from "Pimp up my installer" mockup) and I still think it's not the best of ideas to have theming everywhere.
So I see pros of theming: - people connect yast and installer (when using KDE) - it gives yast an extraordinary look
and cons: - it's slightly (on nv driver even dramatically) slower - it does not adapt to the desktop's style and won't ever - it gives yast an extraordinary look
Do you see more on either side? I really like the new yast theme for installation.
Nevertheless I think it is too colorfull for day-to-day-system-administration. It does not look well integrated into the KDE-desktop. It just looks _too_ extraordinary. ;) Therefore I suggest to use the theme just for the installation. But that's just my personal opinion ... Felix Möller --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 06 February 2008, Stephan Kulow wrote:
So I see pros of theming: - it gives yast an extraordinary look
if done correctly (e.g. integrates with the opensuse theme (bootsplash, desktop colors, backgrounds), it helps the user to realize that yast is the thing to use if they want to customize their system ("it looks different than a normal application -> it is not a normal application"). -- RPMLINT information under http://en.opensuse.org/Packaging/RpmLint --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Am Mittwoch, 6. Februar 2008 schrieb Dirk Mueller:
On Wednesday 06 February 2008, Stephan Kulow wrote:
So I see pros of theming: - it gives yast an extraordinary look
if done correctly (e.g. integrates with the opensuse theme (bootsplash, desktop colors, backgrounds), it helps the user to realize that yast is the thing to use if they want to customize their system ("it looks different than a normal application -> it is not a normal application").
This is exactly the attitude, which seduce every win32 hacker to create his own style. We already have too much style differences from all the toolkits, do we really wish to incite every linux hacker to follow this route? Pete --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Green looks great, but I'm not sure if fonts are readable on all screens by all people... -- -Alexey Eremenko "Technologov" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 06 February 2008, Dirk Mueller wrote:
if done correctly (e.g. integrates with the opensuse theme (bootsplash, desktop colors, backgrounds), it helps the user to realize that yast is the thing to use if they want to customize their system ("it looks different than a normal application -> it is not a normal application").
For me YaST is a rather normal application. ;) I'd vote to not theming it after the installation is completed. Andras -- Quanta Plus developer - http://quanta.kdewebdev.org K Desktop Environment - http://www.kde.org
Stephan Kulow <coolo@novell.com> 02/06/08 3:16 PM >>> Hi!
Factory users of KDE will have noticed: yast is green now. I meant this theming only for installation (it was derived from "Pimp up my installer" mockup) and I still think it's not the best of ideas to have theming everywhere. So I see pros of theming: - people connect yast and installer (when using KDE) - it gives yast an extraordinary look and cons: - it's slightly (on nv driver even dramatically) slower - it does not adapt to the desktop's style and won't ever - it gives yast an extraordinary look Do you see more on either side? Greetings, Stephan -- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) I definitely like the new green Theme. It sets YaST apart from the rest of the system. And it is pleasant to the eyes. But when i think about it. has anyone thought about it how it will look for people with red / green colorblindness. It should not get unreadable in that case. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e- mail: opensuse- factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e- mail: opensuse- factory+help@opensuse.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Fri, 2008-02-08 at 09:47 +0000, Stefan Kunze wrote:
Stephan Kulow <coolo@novell.com> 02/06/08 3:16 PM >>> Hi!
Factory users of KDE will have noticed: yast is green now.
I meant this theming only for installation (it was derived from "Pimp up my installer" mockup) and I still think it's not the best of ideas to have theming everywhere.
So I see pros of theming: - people connect yast and installer (when using KDE) - it gives yast an extraordinary look
and cons: - it's slightly (on nv driver even dramatically) slower - it does not adapt to the desktop's style and won't ever - it gives yast an extraordinary look
Do you see more on either side?
Greetings, Stephan
-- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg)
I definitely like the new green Theme. It sets YaST apart from the rest of the system. And it is pleasant to the eyes. But when i think about it. has anyone thought about it how it will look for people with red / green colorblindness. It should not get unreadable in that case.
I too agree that the new theme is nice. But, Stefan Kunze makes a good point. With my vision loss, I have a slight colorblindness and it is a little bit hard to read. I haven't played around with the installer in several weeks, so I can't give specifics. But I'll certainly give it a shot this weekend and speak more fully to this topic after I try it out again. Bryen --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
participants (15)
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Alberto Passalacqua -
Alexey Eremenko -
Andras Mantia -
Benji Weber -
Bryen -
Carlos Gonçalves -
Dirk Mueller -
Druid -
Felix Möller -
Hans-Peter Jansen -
Lukas Ocilka -
M9. -
Martin Schlander -
Stefan Kunze -
Stephan Kulow