[opensuse-factory] RHEL dumps Btrfs and replaces it with Stratis
Hi all, Looks like Redhat will no longer use Btrfs in their next release and has replaced it with Stratis. Stratis appears to be an XFS derivative designed by Redhat. Can we see this as an option for openSUSE in the future? Cheers! Roman -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 23 September 2017 at 21:52, Roman Bysh <geeko.tor@gmx.com> wrote:
Hi all,
Looks like Redhat will no longer use Btrfs in their next release and has replaced it with Stratis. Stratis appears to be an XFS derivative designed by Redhat.
Can we see this as an option for openSUSE in the future?
My answer will be the same as normally If someone contributes it to openSUSE, yes If no one contributes it to openSUSE, no I am not aware of anyone working on it for openSUSE at this time. Cheers -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 23/09/17 04:47 PM, Richard Brown wrote:
On 23 September 2017 at 21:52, Roman Bysh <geeko.tor@gmx.com> wrote:
Hi all,
Looks like Redhat will no longer use Btrfs in their next release and has replaced it with Stratis. Stratis appears to be an XFS derivative designed by Redhat.
Can we see this as an option for openSUSE in the future?
My answer will be the same as normally
If someone contributes it to openSUSE, yes
If no one contributes it to openSUSE, no
I am not aware of anyone working on it for openSUSE at this time.
Cheers
Thanks Richard. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 4:47 PM, Richard Brown <RBrownCCB@opensuse.org> wrote:
On 23 September 2017 at 21:52, Roman Bysh <geeko.tor@gmx.com> wrote:
Hi all,
Looks like Redhat will no longer use Btrfs in their next release and has replaced it with Stratis. Stratis appears to be an XFS derivative designed by Redhat.
Can we see this as an option for openSUSE in the future?
My answer will be the same as normally
If someone contributes it to openSUSE, yes
If no one contributes it to openSUSE, no
I am not aware of anyone working on it for openSUSE at this time.
For what it's worth, it's not even in *Fedora* yet because Stratis is written in Rust, and the required Rust packaging work was delayed until Fedora 28. The only blockers on the openSUSE side right now are supporting the new rich dependencies without breaking the Tumbleweed compose (aka, new product builder), which I think is supposed to be deployed by now, and RPM supporting with/without rich operators, which is in RPM 4.14, which should be making its way into Tumbleweed and SLE/Leap 15 soonish. -- 真実はいつも一つ！/ Always, there's only one truth! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Sat, 2017-09-23 at 19:22 -0400, Neal Gompa wrote:
On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 4:47 PM, Richard Brown <RBrownCCB@opensuse.or g> wrote:
On 23 September 2017 at 21:52, Roman Bysh <geeko.tor@gmx.com> wrote:
Hi all,
Looks like Redhat will no longer use Btrfs in their next release and has replaced it with Stratis. Stratis appears to be an XFS derivative designed by Redhat.
Can we see this as an option for openSUSE in the future?
My answer will be the same as normally
If someone contributes it to openSUSE, yes
If no one contributes it to openSUSE, no
I am not aware of anyone working on it for openSUSE at this time.
[…] The only blockers on the openSUSE side right now are supporting the new rich dependencies without breaking the Tumbleweed compose (aka, new product builder), which I think is supposed to be deployed by now, and RPM supporting with/without rich operators, which […]
Nope, we did still not migrate to the new product builder; but we are getting closer and think we are missing about one more feature on the OBS side of things to get this done (unless we keep on finding more things) Cheers, Dominique
For what it's worth, it's not even in *Fedora* yet because Stratis is written in Rust, and the required Rust packaging work was delayed until Fedora 28. The only blockers on the openSUSE side right now are supporting the new rich dependencies without breaking the Tumbleweed compose (aka, new product builder), which I think is supposed to be deployed by now, and RPM supporting with/without rich operators, which is in RPM 4.14, which should be making its way into Tumbleweed and SLE/Leap 15 soonish.
Is there a doc somewhere about the current status of Rust packaging on openSUSE? From memory, the Debian folks were having a lot of trouble with it -- though I see that you're a member of the SIG-Rust for Fedora[1]. What was/is the plan to deal with the nightly compiler issue, not to mention the more generic cargo issue? [1]: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Rust -- Aleksa Sarai Snr. Software Engineer (Containers) SUSE Linux GmbH https://www.cyphar.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Sun, Oct 1, 2017 at 8:46 PM, Aleksa Sarai <asarai@suse.de> wrote:
For what it's worth, it's not even in *Fedora* yet because Stratis is written in Rust, and the required Rust packaging work was delayed until Fedora 28. The only blockers on the openSUSE side right now are supporting the new rich dependencies without breaking the Tumbleweed compose (aka, new product builder), which I think is supposed to be deployed by now, and RPM supporting with/without rich operators, which is in RPM 4.14, which should be making its way into Tumbleweed and SLE/Leap 15 soonish.
Is there a doc somewhere about the current status of Rust packaging on openSUSE? From memory, the Debian folks were having a lot of trouble with it -- though I see that you're a member of the SIG-Rust for Fedora[1].
What was/is the plan to deal with the nightly compiler issue, not to mention the more generic cargo issue?
As far as I know, there isn't a page about this for openSUSE. Luke Jones, who is the member of the SIG (the member list is a bit out of date) that works on openSUSE packaging, has been busy with his GSoC project and school things, so he has been away for some time. I've been meaning to take a stab at either rebasing openSUSE's rpm to 4.14 or backporting the necessary richops to the current rpm, but SUSE's rpm package is rather scary compared to Fedora or Mageia's, in part because SUSE-specific configuration changes are mushed into the upstream rpm package rather than being split out into a rpm-config-SUSE package (like redhat-rpm-config in Fedora and rpm-mageia-setup in Mageia). I believe Simon Lees (who is CC'd to this email) was working on splitting things up to make it easier to do rpm upgrades. I've also been trying to take a stab at making the rpm packaging not suck as much, but it's tricky... Contrary to the name of the SIG, Fedora, Mageia, and openSUSE are equally involved in developing the packaging. Rémi Verschelde represents Mageia. Luke Jones represents openSUSE. I'm involved in all three (somehow! :P). Igor Gnatenko and Josh Stone represent Fedora and RHEL/EPEL. At least at the moment, I believe we're avoiding the nightly compiler issue by just not building that stuff right now. As for the "generic Cargo issue", I'm not sure what you mean? -- 真実はいつも一つ！/ Always, there's only one truth! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 02/10/17 23:55, Neal Gompa wrote:
On Sun, Oct 1, 2017 at 8:46 PM, Aleksa Sarai <asarai@suse.de> wrote:
For what it's worth, it's not even in *Fedora* yet because Stratis is written in Rust, and the required Rust packaging work was delayed until Fedora 28. The only blockers on the openSUSE side right now are supporting the new rich dependencies without breaking the Tumbleweed compose (aka, new product builder), which I think is supposed to be deployed by now, and RPM supporting with/without rich operators, which is in RPM 4.14, which should be making its way into Tumbleweed and SLE/Leap 15 soonish.
Is there a doc somewhere about the current status of Rust packaging on openSUSE? From memory, the Debian folks were having a lot of trouble with it -- though I see that you're a member of the SIG-Rust for Fedora[1].
What was/is the plan to deal with the nightly compiler issue, not to mention the more generic cargo issue?
As far as I know, there isn't a page about this for openSUSE. Luke Jones, who is the member of the SIG (the member list is a bit out of date) that works on openSUSE packaging, has been busy with his GSoC project and school things, so he has been away for some time.
I've been meaning to take a stab at either rebasing openSUSE's rpm to 4.14 or backporting the necessary richops to the current rpm, but SUSE's rpm package is rather scary compared to Fedora or Mageia's, in part because SUSE-specific configuration changes are mushed into the upstream rpm package rather than being split out into a rpm-config-SUSE package (like redhat-rpm-config in Fedora and rpm-mageia-setup in Mageia). I believe Simon Lees (who is CC'd to this email) was working on splitting things up to make it easier to do rpm upgrades. I've also been trying to take a stab at making the rpm packaging not suck as much, but it's tricky...
If this week doesn't end up crazy busy with unexpected things like last week i'll probably get back to working on it next week. But it involves quite some work so I don't think it will be a quick process. -- Simon Lees (Simotek) http://simotek.net Emergency Update Team keybase.io/simotek SUSE Linux Adelaide Australia, UTC+10:30 GPG Fingerprint: 5B87 DB9D 88DC F606 E489 CEC5 0922 C246 02F0 014B
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