All meeting minutes can be found here: https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/ReleaseEngineering-meeting Meeting is hosted here https://meet.opensuse.org/ReleaseEngineeringMeeting ## Attendees bittin, DimStar, guillaumeg, lkocman, sysrich, DocB, dirk, maxlin, Marcus, Rado ## SUSE IT - Rado | Martin POC (something lkocman played on in train from OSCcon feel free to contribute) https://build.opensuse.org/project/show/home:mpiala:suse-it-infra Richard has working firstboot for MicroOS Desktop with gnome-initial- setup: https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/RBrownSUSE:/microos:/selfin... https://hackweek.opensuse.org/21/projects/opensuse-build-supported-by-suse-i... Requirements: full disk encryption lkocman's todo: working first-boot Official project by autobuild https://build.opensuse.org/project/show/isv:SUSE:suse-it-infra Shall we consider yast2-firstboot. Richard: the system facing stuff works well in yast2-firsboot, but the desktop part not so much (language for GNOME). SUMA demo - at the moment, there are two major issues in SUMA. okta integration and availability for public internet. (upstream https://github.com/uyuni-project/) https://www.suse.com/products/suse-manager/ Rado: Management of devices need to be integated with OKTA. In case SUSE IT will not find any other solution, SUMA and feature integration sounds like a way to go. ## Leap 15.4 retro spective is open at survey.opensuse.org docs are finally published (Lukas now knows how to fully do it! Previously dependent on Frank being around) Leap 15.5: Maybe we could reactivate openSUSE:Leap:15.5 to collect updates on top of SLE (application/Desktops/etc)? Let's think about this. Marcus did some work on the SLE Micro update channel for Leap Micro Marcus: http://download.opensuse.org/update/leap-micro/5.2/sle/ new repo fed with SLE Micro updates Have to update https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:LeapMicro/Lifecycle ALP CWG meeting yesterday, lots of action items (POC for openQA-o-o) https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/weeklymeeting20220614 Leap Micro related - ignite{,-stage}.opensuse.org requested in https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/111452 Agremeent from conference to build container in OBS and deploy it as a container (cboltz, bernhard agreed) el rancho SUSE's Linux Learnig Club next week !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!! HEADS UP openSUSE ALP channel on discord/matrix/irc/telegram !!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link please! #alp:opensuse.org #opensuse-alp @ irc.libera.chat Not found on Matrix... ## openSUSE Tumbleweed openSUSE:Factory build fail stats: N/A failed, N/A unresolvable (last week: 383/12) https://tinyurl.com/ysy4nnnz * KDE Gear 22.04.2 and KDE Plasma 5.25 have been released into Tumbleweed during the last week, Frameworks 5.95.0 is in Staging * Switch for python 3.10 as main interpreter has been executed: Snapshot 0614 got the package and project config changes. Build in progress. As the python interpreter is so deeply nested, rebuild strategy was changed from 'local' (only build package which was checked in) to 'direct' (rebuild things with changed build deps). This will result in a quite large update (almost as bug as a full gcc12 rebuild, also due to FORTIFY_SOURCE=3 now being used in all packages, which we did not trigger a full rebuild for) * SELinux 3.4 is in Staging:C - breaks a few image builds using kiwi; not clear yet if kiwi or SELinux is at fault GPG Key to sign packages/repos is planned to be updated to be a 4096/RSA key (implementation schedule pending) Tracker bug : https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1199184 ## Richard (MicroOS) Winding down the Kubic project. kubic.opensuse.org has been removed/archived, domain still used by Tumbleweed/MicroOS kubeadm packages for version upgrades MicroOS/Kubic patterns partially tidied up, completion WIP Kubernetes 1.24 still in holding while the kubic winddown fallout and tidying up is done, 1.24.1 will be expected when it's submitted Resurrecting my MicroOS btrfs send/resc research project to see if it's now more viable as a transactional image update than Thorsten Kukuk's TIU experiment MicroOS Desktop abandoning use of packagekit/pkcon/tukit installation methods due to lack of maintenance/bug fixes, expect an update to revert to using transactional-update by default. Tumbleweed will be getting SLE-BCI-like containers. Dirk: Are we changing the name? Richard: I haven't figured out the tagging convention yet. Dirk: The name should distinguish, not only the registry, but also the organizational part and the name. Richard: Yes but..if the bci language containers (eg nodejs, golang, etc) are equal/better than the old non-bci language containers, we might as well harmonise on doing everything the bci way in an opensuse/ container namespace rather than making a seperate bci/ namespace. Technically we could do it (we have a kubic/ one seperate from the opensuse/ one) but that doesn't mean it's a good idea. Dirk: what about a tumbleweed/ namespace/naming convention? Richard: All official openSUSE container efforts are using only tumbleweed bases, with the exception of the Leap container which we dont use as a base for anything, dont advertise, and would delete if we had anyone willing to do the extra work to delete it...but as we dont, it'll stay around until the end of Leap after 15.5 Richard: so based on this discussion, I assume everything will end up in the official registry.opensuse.org/opensuse/ namespace, unless we find a reason to not lkocman: Jose L. works on PoC for openqa.opensuse.org testing for ALP will be based on the current MicroOS test suite. I believe that expectation is that contributions would be backported to "upstream" by default. That was not always the case for SLE -> Leap etc. ## Max * Preparing some improvements for the next release. Filing tickets for the openSUSE-release-process github repo * Locked Leap and Backports project * Raspberry Pi USB Boot problems * We could track it as a known issue in RN (Otherwise it's already listed in Raspberry PI HCL section on wiki) * Candidate for 15.4 QU1 respin is ^ as well as the wlan0 issue https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1186677 ## Guillaume - Arm Tumbleweed: Same as last week * llvm9 has been dropped from Factory, but ghc-bootstrap still requires it for aarch64 and armv6/7: https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1199897 * Last Kubic DVD iso built is still available at http://download.opensuse.org/ports/aarch64/tumbleweed/iso/ lkocman: Do we need to change something at get-o-o regarding kubic? Dimstar: Richard was busy :-) So nothing to do Leap 15.4: * armv7: Same as last week * Enlightenment package not built before the lock of the project (was still failing in rpmlint check due to a missing whitelist). maybe provide it via update channel? https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1194047 Has to be already a maintenance update. Leap Micro 5.2: No Updates this week * Default-SelfInstall: still some issues in openQA: https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/110845 (works locally) openQA: WIP to add aio (and maybe cache) option(s) to qemu backend to try to enhance performances, similar to what Dirk enabled on OBS workers ## Sarah - s390 Not Available All maven issues related to s390x are fixed. A new OpenJDK 17 is available for testing. If all is ok, then we can make it as a default. s390-tools are updated. Tumbleweed: * Is rolling openSUSE Leap 15.4: * no issues We had a nice team meeting at the conference (incl. a Power guy for an IBM technology meeting). :) ## Doug * Leap * sent gift to beta testers who sent email * recording in the press articles * TSP * No progress * Events * OSCAL oSC22 starts saturday * Applied for booth at FrOSCon * GNU Health conf sponsorship * Being asked by Z-Bau if we plan to have oSC next year & what time * GSoC * Projects started * First evaluations due July 29 at 18:00 UTC * Expected to publish a call for communications and marketing team increase * Working with emily on WG update lkocman: Doug I really appreciate all of these post (micro?) posts post GA on facebook, linkedin. I think it really helps with ensuring people know about the 15.4 GA, in case they missed the article. Good job! ## Dirk * was on vacation, poked on the missing ceph submission to enable python 3.10 switch, no other big news to share. * TODO tmux update to 3.3 broke yast2-ruby-bindings again, will look at it ## Wolfgang (Package Hub), Scott Bahling SLE 12 SP5 PH request to add supervisor https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1200415 Scott: lack of policy checking into Backports submission https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1199841 Document the process for 15.5 and also ALP (once related). Max: compared to the Leap before CtLG, orgin manager(formerly leaper) replacement is missing opensuse-reviews are still happening for Leap 15.4 top level project (but this project lacks other staging reviews) Backports has most of reviews implemented, but is missing the opensuse- reviews involved via origin-manager or leaper. Dominique: please do not just enable opensuse-reviewer for all of the reviews, it's pretty much just me. We need to find resources first. Scott: the original idea was let's just inherit from Factory, we assume that it's already there. If it happens to deviate from factory, then backport-reviewers would have a look. Perhaps we need to document and "follow the policy" even more. Max: this is problematic as we're receveing a lot of Leap and/or Backports specific fixes. Looking into a issue where mirror admins reported growing size of Leap / Backports. Adrian and Wolfgang are looking into that. Adrian: addition of mirroring of SP4:GA, for some days some architectures were behind and we've had doubled amount of noarch packages. It's expected behavior. Project will be frozen soon. Marcus: Did we do version updates for 15.4 from Factory. We did that in around Alpha phase. Marcus: some of the SP3:Updates were not picked up by Package HUB - SP4. Dirk: I also noticed some overriden versions from SP3. Lubos will check with Wolfgang on this one. Marcus did not see the usual review requests. Max we will need to either revive factory source checker or leaper checker ## Maintenance team (Marina or Marcus, Maurizio (m4u)) Leap Micro 5.2 update channel was mentioned above. No integration tests in place. The only concern is about rpm dependency issues. lkocman will look into product rebuild asap. 15.4 Update openQA was setup this week Staff is moving as usual. Stuff? or is the staff physically moving to new SUSE building? ;-) - Marcus: 15.4 is set up channel wise, updates will go in testing occasionaly, if you need more ping me, no openqa setup yet lkocman: could you please help me with cleanup of maintenance tasks in https://progress.opensuse.org/projects/opensuse-leap-15-4/issues/gantt lkocman: will contact Jan Stehlik. Santi (PO for the topic) mentioned he'll work on it. lkocman: messaged Jan Jan confirmed with me that they're on it. lkocman: (still pending) will open a release notes entry for a change Security Advisory identification TODO Marcus: could you give me example of old and new values? - Marina and Maurizio: SLE-PackageHub overlaps (https://github.com/openSUSE/openSUSE-release-process/issues/71) work in progress following the initial list of overlapping packages (https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/106610#note-3). More incidents are under QA. Work is going on and under control (and tracked internally as jsc#MSC-303). Already released: (AH PERFECT!) SUSE:Maintenance:22929:265929 (babl libbabl-0_1-0 typelib-1_0-Babl-0_1) SUSE:Maintenance:23000:266006 (MozillaThunderbird enigmail) SUSE:Maintenance:23009:266004 (freerdp freerdp-devel freerdp-proxy libfreerdp2 libgsm) -> libgsm1 was missing in PH making freerdp not installable SUSE:Maintenance:22928:266007 (argyllcms csync libcsync0 libcsync- plugin-sftp libcsync-plugin-smb) SUSE:Maintenance:23015:267052 (gfbgraph-devel libgfbgraph-0_2-0 typelib-1_0-GFBGraph-0_2 librest gcr) -> librest, gcr and libgoa are needed too for making gfbgraph installable SUSE:Maintenance:23334:268316 (gutenprint gutenprint-devel) SUSE:Maintenance:23486:268867 (hp-drive-guard, upower) --> needs libupower-glib3 SUSE:Maintenance:23487:268897 (liba52-0 liba52-devel) SUSE:Maintenance:23506:268899 (libdvdread4 libdvdread-devel) Lubos will ping m4u about updating the list (m4u: the list gets updated on jsc#MSC-303, let me know if you cannot access, I will update it later today and ping Lubos when done) Lubos will check updates in jira Meet product security at the openSUSE Conference. There are about 3 talks on the maintenance and security topics. Come and say Hello! DimStar: there is currently a pending crypto / gnutls related submission. ## Adrian - OBS No update