[opensuse-factory] GNOME 3.9.3 for Factory?

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Dominique Leuenberger a.k.a. Dimstar

28 Jun 2013 28 Jun '13

07:24

Hi all, As you're all aware, the plan for openSUSE 13.1 is to include GNOME 3.10 (12.3 was shipped with GNOME 3.6, with 3.8 as 'addon repo'). Now, of course, 3.10 is not going to be released before September... but we have GNOME 3.9.3 ready in GNOME:Factory and I for one run this on my machine with limited issues. Are you all ready and willing to get the new 3.9.x dumped upon you? Due to the early dev state of it, there are surely some things here and there that still need fixing, but the soon we can get 'users' on the platform, the better the chances to get some issues solved here and there. So the short question is really: Shall we submit GNOME 3.9.x to Factory? If we do this now, then I'd say we have a perfect chance that users coming to oSC13 and running Factory have a chance to have this usable (or not :) ). There is currently only 'one blocker' on my radar: gnome-control-center segfaults on startup (due to one of our own patches). Cheers, Dominique -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

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Robert Milasan

28 Jun 28 Jun

08:03

On Fri, 28 Jun 2013 09:24:18 +0200 "Dominique Leuenberger a.k.a. Dimstar" wrote:

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Hi all,

As you're all aware, the plan for openSUSE 13.1 is to include GNOME 3.10 (12.3 was shipped with GNOME 3.6, with 3.8 as 'addon repo').

Now, of course, 3.10 is not going to be released before September... but we have GNOME 3.9.3 ready in GNOME:Factory and I for one run this on my machine with limited issues.

Are you all ready and willing to get the new 3.9.x dumped upon you? Due to the early dev state of it, there are surely some things here and there that still need fixing, but the soon we can get 'users' on the platform, the better the chances to get some issues solved here and there.

So the short question is really: Shall we submit GNOME 3.9.x to Factory? If we do this now, then I'd say we have a perfect chance that users coming to oSC13 and running Factory have a chance to have this usable (or not :) ).

There is currently only 'one blocker' on my radar: gnome-control-center segfaults on startup (due to one of our own patches).

Cheers, Dominique

Will we have the classic mode in 13.1? -- Robert Milasan L3 Support Engineer SUSE Linux (http://www.suse.com) email: rmilasan@suse.com GPG fingerprint: B6FE F4A8 0FA3 3040 3402 6FE7 2F64 167C 1909 6D1A -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Frederic Crozat

08:06

Le vendredi 28 juin 2013 à 10:03 +0200, Robert Milasan a écrit :

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On Fri, 28 Jun 2013 09:24:18 +0200 "Dominique Leuenberger a.k.a. Dimstar" wrote:

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Hi all,

As you're all aware, the plan for openSUSE 13.1 is to include GNOME 3.10 (12.3 was shipped with GNOME 3.6, with 3.8 as 'addon repo').

Now, of course, 3.10 is not going to be released before September... but we have GNOME 3.9.3 ready in GNOME:Factory and I for one run this on my machine with limited issues.

Are you all ready and willing to get the new 3.9.x dumped upon you? Due to the early dev state of it, there are surely some things here and there that still need fixing, but the soon we can get 'users' on the platform, the better the chances to get some issues solved here and there.

So the short question is really: Shall we submit GNOME 3.9.x to Factory? If we do this now, then I'd say we have a perfect chance that users coming to oSC13 and running Factory have a chance to have this usable (or not :) ).

There is currently only 'one blocker' on my radar: gnome-control-center segfaults on startup (due to one of our own patches).

Cheers, Dominique

Will we have the classic mode in 13.1?

Since it is part of 3.8, I'd say yes :) -- Frederic Crozat SUSE -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Robert Milasan

08:11

On Fri, 28 Jun 2013 10:06:48 +0200 Frederic Crozat wrote:

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Le vendredi 28 juin 2013 à 10:03 +0200, Robert Milasan a écrit :

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On Fri, 28 Jun 2013 09:24:18 +0200 "Dominique Leuenberger a.k.a. Dimstar" wrote:

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Hi all,

As you're all aware, the plan for openSUSE 13.1 is to include GNOME 3.10 (12.3 was shipped with GNOME 3.6, with 3.8 as 'addon repo').

Now, of course, 3.10 is not going to be released before September... but we have GNOME 3.9.3 ready in GNOME:Factory and I for one run this on my machine with limited issues.

Are you all ready and willing to get the new 3.9.x dumped upon you? Due to the early dev state of it, there are surely some things here and there that still need fixing, but the soon we can get 'users' on the platform, the better the chances to get some issues solved here and there.

So the short question is really: Shall we submit GNOME 3.9.x to Factory? If we do this now, then I'd say we have a perfect chance that users coming to oSC13 and running Factory have a chance to have this usable (or not :) ).

There is currently only 'one blocker' on my radar: gnome-control-center segfaults on startup (due to one of our own patches).

Cheers, Dominique

Will we have the classic mode in 13.1?

Since it is part of 3.8, I'd say yes :)

Well I've tested openSUSE 13.1 Milestone2 and I haven't been able to enable or use Classic mode. Milestone2 comes with 3.8.2 or 3.8.3, if I remember well. -- Robert Milasan L3 Support Engineer SUSE Linux (http://www.suse.com) email: rmilasan@suse.com GPG fingerprint: B6FE F4A8 0FA3 3040 3402 6FE7 2F64 167C 1909 6D1A -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Dominique Leuenberger a.k.a. Dimstar

08:22

Quoting Robert Milasan :

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On Fri, 28 Jun 2013 10:06:48 +0200

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Will we have the classic mode in 13.1?

Since it is part of 3.8, I'd say yes :)

Well I've tested openSUSE 13.1 Milestone2 and I haven't been able to enable or use Classic mode. Milestone2 comes with 3.8.2 or 3.8.3, if I remember well.

did you install gnome-shell-classic-mode ? Considering that I already had bug reports from users against it (not stating they can't enable it... but from experiences 'inside' classic mode I very much have to assume that those users were able to install / enable it:) Dominique -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Robert Milasan

08:33

On Fri, 28 Jun 2013 10:22:35 +0200 "Dominique Leuenberger a.k.a. Dimstar" wrote:

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Quoting Robert Milasan :

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On Fri, 28 Jun 2013 10:06:48 +0200

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Will we have the classic mode in 13.1?

Since it is part of 3.8, I'd say yes :)

Well I've tested openSUSE 13.1 Milestone2 and I haven't been able to enable or use Classic mode. Milestone2 comes with 3.8.2 or 3.8.3, if I remember well.

did you install gnome-shell-classic-mode ? Considering that I already had bug reports from users against it (not stating they can't enable it... but from experiences 'inside' classic mode I very much have to assume that those users were able to install / enable it:)

Dominique

I've tried to find something that could be installed, but found nothing. opensuse-factory:~ # zypper ref Repository 'openSUSE-13.1-Non-Oss' is up to date. Repository 'openSUSE-13.1-Oss' is up to date. Repository 'openSUSE-13.1-Update' is up to date. Repository 'openSUSE-13.1-Update-Non-Oss' is up to date. All repositories have been refreshed. opensuse-factory:~ # zypper up Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... Nothing to do. opensuse-factory:~ # zypper in gnome-shell-classic-mode Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... Package 'gnome-shell-classic-mode' not found. Resolving package dependencies... Nothing to do. opensuse-factory:~ # zypper se gnome-shell-classic-mode Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... No packages found. opensuse-factory:~ # cat /etc/SuSE-release openSUSE 13.1 Milestone 2 (x86_64) VERSION = 13.1 CODENAME = Bottle I might be missing something, but don't believe so. -- Robert Milasan L3 Support Engineer SUSE Linux (http://www.suse.com) email: rmilasan@suse.com GPG fingerprint: B6FE F4A8 0FA3 3040 3402 6FE7 2F64 167C 1909 6D1A -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Dominique Leuenberger a.k.a. Dimstar

08:41

Quoting Robert Milasan :

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Nothing to do. opensuse-factory:~ # zypper in gnome-shell-classic-mode Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... Package 'gnome-shell-classic-mode' not found. Resolving package dependencies...

My bad :( I don't install it often enough :) it's gnome-shell-classic a sub package built by 'gnome-shell-extensions' package. Dominique -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Robert Milasan

08:47

On Fri, 28 Jun 2013 10:41:26 +0200 "Dominique Leuenberger a.k.a. Dimstar" wrote:

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Quoting Robert Milasan :

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Nothing to do. opensuse-factory:~ # zypper in gnome-shell-classic-mode Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... Package 'gnome-shell-classic-mode' not found. Resolving package dependencies...

My bad :( I don't install it often enough :) it's gnome-shell-classic

a sub package built by 'gnome-shell-extensions' package.

Dominique

Yep, that seems to work, thanks! -- Robert Milasan L3 Support Engineer SUSE Linux (http://www.suse.com) email: rmilasan@suse.com GPG fingerprint: B6FE F4A8 0FA3 3040 3402 6FE7 2F64 167C 1909 6D1A -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Stephan Kulow

08:51

On 28.06.2013 10:47, Robert Milasan wrote:

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On Fri, 28 Jun 2013 10:41:26 +0200 "Dominique Leuenberger a.k.a. Dimstar" wrote:

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Quoting Robert Milasan :

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Nothing to do. opensuse-factory:~ # zypper in gnome-shell-classic-mode Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... Package 'gnome-shell-classic-mode' not found. Resolving package dependencies...

My bad :( I don't install it often enough :) it's gnome-shell-classic

a sub package built by 'gnome-shell-extensions' package.

Dominique

Yep, that seems to work, thanks!

Should we put it in the GNOME pattern as suggests? Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Robert Milasan

08:53

On Fri, 28 Jun 2013 10:51:18 +0200 Stephan Kulow wrote:

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On 28.06.2013 10:47, Robert Milasan wrote:

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On Fri, 28 Jun 2013 10:41:26 +0200 "Dominique Leuenberger a.k.a. Dimstar" wrote:

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Quoting Robert Milasan :

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Nothing to do. opensuse-factory:~ # zypper in gnome-shell-classic-mode Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... Package 'gnome-shell-classic-mode' not found. Resolving package dependencies...

My bad :( I don't install it often enough :) it's gnome-shell-classic

a sub package built by 'gnome-shell-extensions' package.

Dominique

Yep, that seems to work, thanks!

Should we put it in the GNOME pattern as suggests?

Greetings, Stephan

I would suggest this small package to be installed by default. Doesn't look to big too me. It's just that people might have issue at the beginning and also maybe this should just be there so they wouldn't need to install any additions and they can make a choice at first login. -- Robert Milasan L3 Support Engineer SUSE Linux (http://www.suse.com) email: rmilasan@suse.com GPG fingerprint: B6FE F4A8 0FA3 3040 3402 6FE7 2F64 167C 1909 6D1A -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Frederic Crozat

09:32

Le vendredi 28 juin 2013 à 10:51 +0200, Stephan Kulow a écrit :

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On 28.06.2013 10:47, Robert Milasan wrote:

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On Fri, 28 Jun 2013 10:41:26 +0200 "Dominique Leuenberger a.k.a. Dimstar" wrote:

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Quoting Robert Milasan :

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Nothing to do. opensuse-factory:~ # zypper in gnome-shell-classic-mode Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... Package 'gnome-shell-classic-mode' not found. Resolving package dependencies...

My bad :( I don't install it often enough :) it's gnome-shell-classic

a sub package built by 'gnome-shell-extensions' package.

Dominique

Yep, that seems to work, thanks!

Should we put it in the GNOME pattern as suggests?

Yes, I think so.

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Greetings, Stephan

-- Frederic Crozat SUSE -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Neil Rickert

15:17

On Fri, 28 Jun 2013 10:22:35 +0200 "Dominique Leuenberger a.k.a. Dimstar" wrote:

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Considering that I already had bug reports from users against it (not stating they can't enable it... but from experiences 'inside' classic mode I very much have to assume that those users were able to install / enable it:)

I had no problem installing it (I searched for "classic" in Yast software management). But it doesn't work when selected from the KDM menu. I had to switch to GDM (which I loathe) to test classic. Can the KDM menu item for it be fixed? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Dominique Leuenberger a.k.a. Dimstar

08:14

Quoting Robert Milasan :

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Hi all,

As you're all aware, the plan for openSUSE 13.1 is to include GNOME 3.10 (12.3 was shipped with GNOME 3.6, with 3.8 as 'addon repo').

Now, of course, 3.10 is not going to be released before September... but we have GNOME 3.9.3 ready in GNOME:Factory and I for one run this on my machine with limited issues.

Are you all ready and willing to get the new 3.9.x dumped upon you? Due to the early dev state of it, there are surely some things here and there that still need fixing, but the soon we can get 'users' on the platform, the better the chances to get some issues solved here and there.

So the short question is really: Shall we submit GNOME 3.9.x to Factory? If we do this now, then I'd say we have a perfect chance that users coming to oSC13 and running Factory have a chance to have this usable (or not :) ).

There is currently only 'one blocker' on my radar: gnome-control-center segfaults on startup (due to one of our own patches).

Cheers, Dominique

Will we have the classic mode in 13.1?

'Classic Mode' is a 'feature' of GNOME, introduced with version 3.8. In fact, it's not really a 'mode' anymore, it's rather a 'set of extensions enabled for the user', but still on the GNOME 3 platform and using gnome-shell. so, yes, the mode is there and at least last few times I verified, it also worked... but it has still the 'requirement' of accelerated graphics. Dominique -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Frederic Crozat

08:07

New subject: [opensuse-factory] Re: [opensuse-gnome] GNOME 3.9.3 for Factory?

Le vendredi 28 juin 2013 à 09:24 +0200, Dominique Leuenberger a.k.a. Dimstar a écrit :

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Hi all,

As you're all aware, the plan for openSUSE 13.1 is to include GNOME 3.10 (12.3 was shipped with GNOME 3.6, with 3.8 as 'addon repo').

Now, of course, 3.10 is not going to be released before September... but we have GNOME 3.9.3 ready in GNOME:Factory and I for one run this on my machine with limited issues.

Are you all ready and willing to get the new 3.9.x dumped upon you? Due to the early dev state of it, there are surely some things here and there that still need fixing, but the soon we can get 'users' on the platform, the better the chances to get some issues solved here and there.

So the short question is really: Shall we submit GNOME 3.9.x to Factory? If we do this now, then I'd say we have a perfect chance that users coming to oSC13 and running Factory have a chance to have this usable (or not :) ).

I'd say "go for it".

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There is currently only 'one blocker' on my radar: gnome-control-center segfaults on startup (due to one of our own patches).

Maybe just disable the patch until somebody has the chance to fix it ? -- Frederic Crozat SUSE -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+owner@opensuse.org -- Frederic Crozat SUSE -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

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