On 13/08/13 01:03, Dominique Leuenberger a.k.a. Dimstar wrote:

Quoting Basil Chupin :

...

Downloaded Milestone 4 DVD, burnt it to disc, tried to update 13.1 Milestone 3 using this DVD but the whole effort was wasted because grub2-mkconfig does not function and the upgrade failed miserably.

Same for a clean, new install of Milestone 4 - grub.cfg not generated and 13.1 won't boot.

I caught one of several error messages during the upgrade from Milestone #3 and it was:

"Can't use an undefined value as an ARRAY reference as /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.18.0/Bootloader/Tools.pm line 431".

(BTW, suddenly I cannot even use grub2-mkconfig in 12.3 - see my post in HELP named 'What is this nonsense?!')

Basil, please write bug reports instead of rants... it's so much more motivating for everybody to jump in and work towards a solution.

it starts with a subject which is more inviting that 'waste of resources' (which I can as well interpret as 'don't waste resources reading this mail..'

I do understand that testing some new milestone release can be frustrating if it does not work out, but please try to keep the reports as fact based and free-of-emotion as possible. I can almost promise that the return rate of 'useful' answers will be higher.

As for the error in perl-Bootloader: this code seems not to have changed in months; which does not mean it's broken of course... but it might also be that it's not 'new'.

Looking at current bug reports, I'm wondering if you may possibly hit https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=827520 ?

Dominique

Sorry for the long delay in responding. A re-install of Milestone 4 today went OK without hassles and i am, in fact, using it now to post this message. BC -- Using openSUSE 12.3, KDE 4.11.0 & kernel 3.10.5-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Glenn, Was there a point / question in your email? fyi: Updates are never released for pre-gold snapshots if that is what you were asking. Greg Greg -- Greg Freemyer On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 7:23 AM, wrote:

Could list updates.

e.g # zypper ref Repository 'openSUSE-13.1-Non-Oss' is up to date. Repository 'openSUSE-13.1-Oss' is up to date. Repository 'openSUSE-13.1-Update' is up to date. Repository 'openSUSE-13.1-Update-Non-Oss' is up to date. All repositories have been refreshed. [1]+ Done kate /home/iso/gen-factory-iso.sh You have new mail in /var/spool/mail/root

# zypper up Loading repository data... Reading installed packages...

Nothing to do.

# zypper lu Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... No updates found.

# zypper ls # | Alias | Name | Enabled | Refresh | Type --+---------------------------+------------------------------------+---------+---------+------- 1 | openSUSE-13.1-1.17 | openSUSE-13.1-1.17 | No | Yes | yast2 2 | repo-debug | openSUSE-13.1-Debug | No | Yes | NONE 3 | repo-debug-update | openSUSE-13.1-Update-Debug | No | Yes | NONE 4 | repo-debug-update-non-oss | openSUSE-13.1-Update-Debug-Non-Oss | No | Yes | NONE 5 | repo-non-oss | openSUSE-13.1-Non-Oss | Yes | Yes | yast2 6 | repo-oss | openSUSE-13.1-Oss | Yes | Yes | yast2 7 | repo-source | openSUSE-13.1-Source | No | Yes | NONE 8 | repo-update | openSUSE-13.1-Update | Yes | Yes | rpm-md 9 | repo-update-non-oss | openSUSE-13.1-Update-Non-Oss | Yes | Yes | rpm-md

# zypper --help Usage: zypper [--global-options] <command> [--command-options] [arguments]

Global Options: --help, -h Help. --version, -V Output the version number. --promptids Output a list of zypper's user prompts. --config, -c <file> Use specified config file instead of the default. --userdata <string> User defined transaction id used in history and plugins. --quiet, -q Suppress normal output, print only error messages. --verbose, -v Increase verbosity. --no-abbrev, -A Do not abbreviate text in tables. --table-style, -s Table style (integer). --rug-compatible, -r Turn on rug compatibility. --non-interactive, -n Do not ask anything, use default answers automatically. --non-interactive-include-reboot-patches Do not treat patches as interactive, which have the rebootSuggested-flag set. --xmlout, -x Switch to XML output. --ignore-unknown, -i Ignore unknown packages.

--reposd-dir, -D <dir> Use alternative repository definition file directory. --cache-dir, -C <dir> Use alternative directory for all caches. --raw-cache-dir <dir> Use alternative raw meta-data cache directory. --solv-cache-dir <dir> Use alternative solv file cache directory. --pkg-cache-dir <dir> Use alternative package cache directory.

Repository Options: --no-gpg-checks Ignore GPG check failures and continue. --gpg-auto-import-keys Automatically trust and import new repository signing keys. --plus-repo, -p <URI> Use an additional repository. --disable-repositories Do not read meta-data from repositories. --no-refresh Do not refresh the repositories. --no-cd Ignore CD/DVD repositories. --no-remote Ignore remote repositories.

Target Options: --root, -R <dir> Operate on a different root directory. --disable-system-resolvables Do not read installed packages.

Commands: help, ? Print help. shell, sh Accept multiple commands at once.

Repository Management: repos, lr List all defined repositories. addrepo, ar Add a new repository. removerepo, rr Remove specified repository. renamerepo, nr Rename specified repository. modifyrepo, mr Modify specified repository. refresh, ref Refresh all repositories. clean Clean local caches.

Service Management: services, ls List all defined services. addservice, as Add a new service. modifyservice, ms Modify specified service. removeservice, rs Remove specified service. refresh-services, refs Refresh all services.

Software Management: install, in Install packages. remove, rm Remove packages. verify, ve Verify integrity of package dependencies. source-install, si Install source packages and their build dependencies. install-new-recommends, inr Install newly added packages recommended by installed packages.

Update Management: update, up Update installed packages with newer versions. list-updates, lu List available updates. patch Install needed patches. list-patches, lp List needed patches. dist-upgrade, dup Perform a distribution upgrade. patch-check, pchk Check for patches.

Querying: search, se Search for packages matching a pattern. info, if Show full information for specified packages. patch-info Show full information for specified patches. pattern-info Show full information for specified patterns. product-info Show full information for specified products. patches, pch List all available patches. packages, pa List all available packages. patterns, pt List all available patterns. products, pd List all available products. what-provides, wp List packages providing specified capability.

Package Locks: addlock, al Add a package lock. removelock, rl Remove a package lock. locks, ll List current package locks. cleanlocks, cl Remove unused locks.

Other Commands: versioncmp, vcmp Compare two version strings. targetos, tos Print the target operating system ID string. licenses Print report about licenses and EULAs of installed packages. source-download Download source rpms for all installed packages to a local directory.

Type 'zypper help <command>' to get command-specific help.

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