[opensuse-factory] ERROR: The ZENworks Management Daemon is not running
That results in Factory install from last week from attempting: # rug ref YaST System Services doesn't appear to have any such service to enable. # zend bash zend: command not found # ZENworks bash zend: command not found What's the secret to getting rug to function? Is rug not the simplest way to get Factory updated? Is there another nice easy command line way to update Factory, like urpmi --auto-update in Mandriva? -- "Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old has gone, the new has come!" 2 Corinthians 5:17 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 05 April 2007 20:20:02 Felix Miata wrote:
That results in Factory install from last week from attempting:
# rug ref
YaST System Services doesn't appear to have any such service to enable.
# zend bash zend: command not found
# ZENworks bash zend: command not found
What's the secret to getting rug to function?
Unless something drastic has changed in Factory that I'm not aware of, the command is rczmd start It has never been called zend. At first it was rcd, then it became zmd --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Den Thursday 05 April 2007 20:20:02 skrev Felix Miata:
Is rug not the simplest way to get Factory updated?
Not running Factory yet myself. But Zmd+friends is being removed from default installation. You should use zypper. # zypper up -t package or YaST sw_single -> Package -> All packages -> Update if a newer version is available. Assuming libzypp is in a useful state, it appears to be under heavy development. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On 06-04-2007 at 11:06, Martin Schlander <suse@linuxin.dk> wrote: Den Thursday 05 April 2007 20:20:02 skrev Felix Miata: Is rug not the simplest way to get Factory updated?
Not running Factory yet myself. But Zmd+friends is being removed from
default installation. You should use zypper.
# zypper up -t package
or YaST sw_single -> Package -> All packages -> Update if a newer version is available.
Assuming libzypp is in a useful state, it appears to be under heavy development.
I've heard that zmd is being removed from the default set. But up to now, I'm not happy yet with zypper and I stay fully behind zmd/rug/zen-updater. And honestly, I don't see many problems with it anymore. And the personal feeling of speed is better than with zypper. Of course it's because zmd is running as a daemon and takes care of the catalogs in background (which, maybe, could be a bit 'more backgrounded' -> renice) zypper always does everything when I give it an order. oh.. and zypper lu for some strange reasons shows no updates to be done on my installation; if I do rug lu, I see a bunch of updates. funny, zypper in can install them too.. so it knows about the catalogs :-) So probably also not the oh-wonder-it-s-magic tool (yet) In general, I think there are to many programs for the same thing being developed at the moment withing openSUSE: we have yast(you), zmd, zypper, all of them using libzypp (so far very good) but still, all of them failing in different places on libzypp bugs. (so not all use libzypp the same way). This work should be concentrated to one big stream... THAT would probably give the best package manager ever. Dominique --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org -- TMF is a global management and accounting outsourcing firm with 72 offices in 56 countries and over 2,000 professionals (February 2007). TMF is expanding rapidly throughout the world. Learn more about our unique network and our services and visit our website at www.tmf-group.com. The information contained in this e-mail communication is confidential and solely intended for the person to whom it is addressed. If someone other than the intended recipient should receive or come into possession of this e-mail communication, he/she will not be entitled to read, disseminate, disclose or duplicate it. If you are not the intended recipient, you are requested to notify the sender and to destroy the original e-mail communication. TMF is neither liable for the correct and complete transmission of the information contained in this e-mail communication nor for any delay in its receipt. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been checked for the presence of computer viruses. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Den Friday 06 April 2007 10:14:25 skrev Dominique Leuenberger:
oh.. and zypper lu for some strange reasons shows no updates to be done on my installation; if I do rug lu, I see a bunch of updates. funny, zypper in can install them too.. so it knows about the catalogs :-) So probably also not the oh-wonder-it-s-magic tool (yet)
zypper lu only lists patches, not regular package upgrades like those from factory, for that you use: zypper lu -t package (package as opposed to patch which is the default option).
In general, I think there are to many programs for the same thing being developed at the moment withing openSUSE: we have yast(you), zmd, zypper, all of them using libzypp (so far very good) but still, all of them failing in different places on libzypp bugs. (so not all use libzypp the same way). This work should be concentrated to one big stream... THAT would probably give the best package manager ever.
That work _is_ being concentrated right now by removing zmd+friends from default and focusing on yast+zypper+desktop-specific-updater applets+libzypp. That is also why I think you should support that process with testing and feedback, instead of clinging on to the dreaded zmd-stuff - even though zypper is presently a bit rough and libzypp is of course not blazingly fast. You should also see Duncan speak about libzypp at FOSDEM: http://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/FOSDEM/2007/fosdem2007-17_Common_package_an... And maybe have a look at some of the libzypp wiki pages: http://en.opensuse.org/Libzypp_Ng/Speed http://en.opensuse.org/Libzypp_NG --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Den Friday 06 April 2007 10:14:25 skrev Dominique Leuenberger:
zypper always does everything when I give it an order.
If you're doing multiple operations you can avoid the metadata refreshing and parsing each time by using zypper sh (like smart --shell). --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
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