[opensuse-factory] openSUSE Release Engineering Meeting 13.05.2020
## Participants Lubos, Dominique, Doug, Max, Adrian, Guillaume, Gerald ## Leap * Tier1 deliverable policy from Dirk https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/opensuse-tier1-policy Looking for a more feedback * Good news regarding the CTLG features for GNOME. All medium and low complexity tickets were finished in time for the Public RC2 deadline. Now only high complexity tickets are left, that are targeted for 15 SP3. The remainder of milestones for 15 SP2 will be used for resolving bugs and issues and work proactively on the high complexity tickets. * openSUSE Leap upgrade from 15.1 to 15.2 is reporting downgrade of sysconfig (Thanks to Darix for raising the issue) Backporting of change from Factory to SLE (bsc#1171495) has a negative feedback from Thorsten. Previous discussion about the issue can be found here https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1159566 Seems like we have a conflict of opinions and our time window of when we can still change something in SP2/Leap 15.2 is getting short. As per Thorsten's comment I did already open an RFE https://github.com/openSUSE/openSUSE-release-tools/issues/2439 for openSUSE release tools to ignore conflict on %ghost files. Marius suggests to re-link sysconfig in Leap from SLE * kernel in Leap vs SLE discussion with Takashi and Libor ## openSUSE Tumbleweed * New brp-check-suse now relinks everything relative; makes things easier to inspect chroots * GCC 10 is reaching 'ready to merge' -we expect 2 more weeks. Once merged, this will have to trigger a full rebuild of the distro * There are some large packages like LibreOffice that could really profit from build-compare (as it also randomly fails to build / times out, the rebuild trigger often kicks it for no other reason than to sync up) ## ddemaio * 15.2 release announcement being translated https://en.opensuse.org/Release_announcement_15.2 * Virtual Summit video and audio issues with Dolby, Patrick contacting them. * openSUSE + LibreOffice Conference Meeting on status of either cancel, postponement or alternative structure. (Will continue to keep CfP open) ## Dirk Started to work on policy related to Tier1 distribution supportability. ## Guillaume openQA: * aarch64 openQA worker hosted in NUE has been fixed quickly when it broke 2 weeks ago. Thanks to all involved! * Cloud based ARM workers have been added for testing (1 AWS A1 working properly, 1 ThunderX2 with performances issues under investigation (NUMA related?) and also tests on real hardware with Raspberry Pi 2 and 3) => Add a story on news.o.o? +1 (please check news-o-o github repo it has explanation in it) Tumbleweed: (same as previous week) * GNOME wayland issue (x86 is also affected as it depends on virtio- gpu): https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1170586 * GNOME X11 has some issues: https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1168992 * podman 1.9.0 bug: https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1170063 Leap 15.2: * armv7 is still missing ghc: https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1153931. We didn't have ghc- bootstrap for armv7 on leap 15.1 so bootstrap will be painful. So, probably no armv7 ghc for Leap 15.2. * aarch64 has still some bugs, but the same as x86_64 Lubos to contact owner of ghc-bootstrap. Seems like some community people may have stepped down from maintainership. Ludwig: in worst case let's disable (Exclusive/Exclude arch) haskel for 32bit Arm. Perhaps Scott Bahling might be interested. ## Gerald No update ## Max ffmpeg3 -> ffmpeg in SLE (version difference). Lubos: open a feature request to update ffmpeg in SLE kernel-rt newly in Leap due to MicroOS ## Adrian - Jump No update from Jump side this week. Pending OBS autobuild discussion regarding SLE/Leap contribution. Lubos: to schedule a meeting this or next week, based on the attendance. (Rudi, Lars, Adrian, Ismail). OBS/Data protection detail: we might need to disable users not logged in for more than 2 years. We might end up without maintainers for certain packages/devel projects. ## Michel PowerPC Leap15.2 nothing special, last build 236.2 published PowerPC TW, openQA tests failed for ppc64 (BE) because of Swig package failure, boo#1171368 and ppc64le because of mozjs68 package build failure, pending work on that. ## Richard Kubernetes upsteam deciding about LTS releases, either 1.16 or 1.19 seem to be the candiates. Kubic will package whichever is decided. Tumbleweed Kubic/MicroOS to Kubic/MicroOS-Next testing proving difficult due to not being able to copy the approach done for Tumbleweed to Tumbleweed-Next Working on the fallout of the improved packaging for busybox and its viability for use with containers ## Tom Not major changes these weeks; we are fixing up the py2 drop fallout mostly. For Leap we are trying to fix the python-docker for containers fun and dephell stack for modern pyproject.toml using python modules to work. For the Tumbleweed we plan to make people worried and send an openssl 3.x for staging integration. ## Wolfgang Not present. ## Ludwig MicroOS 15.2 managed to go through the devel process. openQA is green. Setup is in place. Next is aarch64 ## Overview of Commmunity SLE Feature Requests (See details in https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Leap/SLEFeatureRequests) (This section will be newly part of ReleaseEngineering meeting minutes) * lqxt-build-tools update - Waiting for feedback from the requester (email) * add authselect for managing auth stack configuration (PM-1881) - Pending PM Evaluation - Aiming for 15 SP3 * Please update mypaint-brushes and libmypaint blocks mypaint update (SLE-12244) - ECO Approved, Code submitted - Submission done (SLE library was named mypaint-brushes-1 unlike in Leap). Thanks to Scott Reeves! * Update python-typing_extensions to 3.7.4 (PM-1833) - ECO Approved - Pending submission * Update golang-packaging to 15.0.12 (PM-1826) - ECO Approved - CaasP Released on Wednesday last week. Jeff will submit golang- packaging this week. * Update purple-rocketchat to version 0.0+hg20200403 (PM-1829) - ECO Approved - Pending code submission * Update libcdio required by python-pycdio 2.1.0 and whipper (PM-1801) - ECO Rejected - Will be deferred to the next release (15 SP3) as it does not qualify as a SLE 15 SP2 RC phase request. Change requires rebuild of underlying dependencies. Namely: cdio-utils.spec, ffmpeg.spec, gstreamer-plugins-ugly.spec, gvfs.spec, libcddb.spec, libcdio, paranoia.spec, libcdio.spec, vcdimager.spec
On 5/13/20 4:57 AM, Lubos Kocman wrote:
## openSUSE Tumbleweed
* GCC 10 is reaching 'ready to merge' -we expect 2 more weeks. Once merged, this will have to trigger a full rebuild of the distro
In LKML and the Linux-Wireless ML is an interesting thread entitled "gcc-10: kernel stack is corrupted and fails to boot" See http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/2005.1/07670.html. The bottom line is that it happened because of tail-call optimization combined with a stack-canary test. A fix has been submitted for kernel 5.7, and it will be backported to stable kernels. This thread makes me wonder how many other bugs that GCC 10 will expose. Is there a trial ISO of TW built with GCC 10 and whatever optimizations that will be used in production? Thanks, Larry -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Thu, 2020-05-14 at 13:27 -0500, Larry Finger wrote:
In LKML and the Linux-Wireless ML is an interesting thread entitled "gcc-10: kernel stack is corrupted and fails to boot" See http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/2005.1/07670.html. The bottom line is that it happened because of tail-call optimization combined with a stack-canary test. A fix has been submitted for kernel 5.7, and it will be backported to stable kernels.
The fix for that has landed in our Kernel version 5.6.12
This thread makes me wonder how many other bugs that GCC 10 will expose.
Is there a trial ISO of TW built with GCC 10 and whatever optimizations that will be used in production?
The ISOs that are used by openQA can be downloaded and tested locally as well. Of course it's a limited set of packages, as the STaging projects only cover about 25% of the distro (but include at leats a working KDE and GNOME Desktop) https://openqa.opensuse.org/group_overview/2 - The BuildN,x,y are the relevant ones here (tests are still underwhelming, as there are still a couple buildfailures to be worked out) cheers, Dominique
On 15. 05. 20, 9:10, Dominique Leuenberger / DimStar wrote:
On Thu, 2020-05-14 at 13:27 -0500, Larry Finger wrote:
In LKML and the Linux-Wireless ML is an interesting thread entitled "gcc-10: kernel stack is corrupted and fails to boot" See http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/2005.1/07670.html. The bottom line is that it happened because of tail-call optimization combined with a stack-canary test. A fix has been submitted for kernel 5.7, and it will be backported to stable kernels.
The fix for that has landed in our Kernel version 5.6.12
FWIW that particular one was rejected by Linus, so we will have a replacement. But we should be flying even with the rejected one already. thanks, -- js suse labs
participants (4)
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Dominique Leuenberger / DimStar -
Jiri Slaby -
Larry Finger -
Lubos Kocman