[opensuse-factory] Run download and install in parallel feature status
Hi all. I want to ask what´s the status of the most wanted feature #120340: Run download and install in parallel? Afaik, Milestone7 should be features freeze(sorry, if i´m wrong and correct me), but software management still uses traditional behaviour. Can we expect this feature will be added, or won´t? Or parallel download at least? If there is no plan to use it, could you change default behaviour to "DownloadInAdvance" in /etc/zypp/zypp.conf? Thanks a lot. -- S pozdravom / Best regards, Rasto -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On 05/28/2010 07:42 AM, Rastislav Krupanský wrote:
I want to ask what´s the status of the most wanted feature #120340: Run download and install in parallel? Afaik, Milestone7 should be features freeze(sorry, if i´m wrong and correct me), but software management still uses traditional behaviour. Can we expect this feature will be added, or won´t? Or parallel download at least?
As i told you yesterday on IRC, the feature won't be done (it still has 'evaluation' status, not 'implementation' or 'done'). We had other priorities lately, but the feature is still one of the top on our list. I hope the voters can understand that. Watch also http://en.opensuse.org/Libzypp/Roadmap (but keep in mind that that's not a firm plan, but rather an outline of the way we want to go).
If there is no plan to use it, could you change default behaviour to "DownloadInAdvance" in /etc/zypp/zypp.conf?
I would vote for this one. Also, please do not cross-post to multiple mailing lists - it's contra-productive (where is one supposed to reply?). If you want to catch more eyes, choose the more crowded one for questions like this. -- cheers, jano Ján Kupec YaST team ---------------------------------------------------------(PGP)--- Key ID: 637EE901 Fingerprint: 93B9 C79B 2D20 51C3 800B E09B 8048 46A6 637E E901 ---------------------------------------------------------(IRC)--- Server: irc.freenode.net Nick: jniq Channels: #zypp #yast #suse #susecz ---------------------------------------------------------(EOF)---
On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 10:27:16AM +0200, Jano Kupec wrote:
On 05/28/2010 07:42 AM, Rastislav Krupanský wrote: [ 8< ]
If there is no plan to use it, could you change default behaviour to "DownloadInAdvance" in /etc/zypp/zypp.conf?
I would vote for this one.
Please be very careful with changing to download in advance as the default. The risk is a full /var partition. And as this task is performed with uid 0 we might cause bigger trouble and have no protection from the usual filesystem reserve. Therefore I suggest to stay with the current approach even if it is not the most elegant one. Lars -- Lars Müller [ˈlaː(r)z ˈmʏlɐ] Samba Team SUSE Linux, Maxfeldstraße 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany
On 05/28/2010 12:16 PM, Lars Müller wrote:
On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 10:27:16AM +0200, Jano Kupec wrote:
On 05/28/2010 07:42 AM, Rastislav Krupanský wrote: [ 8< ]
If there is no plan to use it, could you change default behaviour to "DownloadInAdvance" in /etc/zypp/zypp.conf?
I would vote for this one.
Please be very careful with changing to download in advance as the default. The risk is a full /var partition. And as this task is performed with uid 0 we might cause bigger trouble and have no protection from the usual filesystem reserve.
Good point.
Therefore I suggest to stay with the current approach even if it is not the most elegant one.
Yes, maybe we should implement rough estimation of the needed disk space & issue warning if the reserve is low _before_ making download-all-install-all the default. -- cheers, jano Ján Kupec YaST team ---------------------------------------------------------(PGP)--- Key ID: 637EE901 Fingerprint: 93B9 C79B 2D20 51C3 800B E09B 8048 46A6 637E E901 ---------------------------------------------------------(IRC)--- Server: irc.freenode.net Nick: jniq Channels: #zypp #yast #suse #susecz ---------------------------------------------------------(EOF)---
On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 12:52:30PM +0200, Jano Kupec wrote:
On 05/28/2010 12:16 PM, Lars Müller wrote:
On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 10:27:16AM +0200, Jano Kupec wrote:
On 05/28/2010 07:42 AM, Rastislav Krupanský wrote: [ 8< ]
If there is no plan to use it, could you change default behaviour to "DownloadInAdvance" in /etc/zypp/zypp.conf?
I would vote for this one.
Please be very careful with changing to download in advance as the default. The risk is a full /var partition. And as this task is performed with uid 0 we might cause bigger trouble and have no protection from the usual filesystem reserve.
Good point.
Therefore I suggest to stay with the current approach even if it is not the most elegant one.
Yes, maybe we should implement rough estimation of the needed disk space & issue warning if the reserve is low _before_ making download-all-install-all the default.
-- cheers, jano
Ján Kupec YaST team
This would need to address first https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=551678 -- Bernhard M. Wiedemann software engineer -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
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Please be very careful with changing to download in advance as the default. The risk is a full /var partition. And as this task is performed with uid 0 we might cause bigger trouble and have no protection from the usual filesystem reserve.
Why should it run as root? The download thread or process could be run as a plain user. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.2 x86_64 "Emerald" GM (Elessar)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkwBTzUACgkQU92UU+smfQUdPwCeNmA2SF1gGn467LhN6sIkJPW+ 2hoAnjUeQU1PHSV3iUPCzW4PaQ1QQFxt =YGmZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
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Bernhard M. Wiedemann
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Carlos E. R.
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Jano Kupec
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Lars Müller
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Rastislav Krupanský