[opensuse-factory] Partitioning based on type of installation
Hello, I would like to suggest an enhancement of the partitioner. The dialog where you can select the type of installation (new/update/repair) should offer more options which then are interpreted by the partitioner. I would like to see something like ======== Installation type ( ) Install additionally to existing operating systems (without touching them) ( ) Modify [ComboBox with already installed Linux Versions on the machine] ( ) Install over the selected operating system (this will delete the selected operating system) ( ) Update selected Linux ( ) Repair selected Linux ( ) Set up a machine with one single operating system (this will delete all installed operating systems) ======== Any comments on this proposal? Cheers, Marc --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Marc Ensenbach wrote:
Yes, I have some... 1.) Where would you like to put "Add-On products"? 2.) Where would you like to put "Automatic configuration"? 3.) How would you like to deal with the fact that not all systems are displayed for upgrade, some partitions are not visible unless u user selects to "Show all partitions" (those partitions/systems that are somehow invalid for the upgrade mechanism). Additionally, probing disks and validating systems takes too much time for every user to disturb with the delay. And I'm afraid the dialog is too complex to be understandable for the first sight. It's not wrong trying to design new installation dialogs but you might stop to think what exactly you want to solve? Isn't more helpful to design new bullet-proof partitioner wizard dialogs depending on the selected installation mode and the current disk state? There are several use cases but you can't cover them all by one superb dialog (having the dialog understandable for all users, of course). * New installation * Disk is blank (use the whole disk?) (make a proposal/partition manually?) * Some other systems are already installed (leave them all/remove them/remove some?) * Enough space for new installation (make a proposal/partition manually?) * Disk is full (make a proposal/resize manually/resize what?) * Upgrade (which system?) Bye Lukas -- Lukas Ocilka, YaST Developer (xn--luk-gla45d) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Ano, ano. Moudry rozkaz. Sam jsem nemel v tech gratulacich jasno.
Lukas Ocilka schrieb:
On the next screen.
2.) Where would you like to put "Automatic configuration"?
ditto
If a system that does not support upgrade/repair, the respective options should be greyed out. Only those already installed Linux systems that are precisely recognised during probing should appear in the combo box. For the remaining problems it might be sensible to offer an option that says "use expert partitioner later on".
Additionally, probing disks and validating systems takes too much time for every user to disturb with the delay.
OK, that is a disadvantage that I might have underestimated.
And I'm afraid the dialog is too complex to be understandable for the first sight.
I do not think that it is more complex than for example the time zone selection screen.
It's not wrong trying to design new installation dialogs but you might stop to think what exactly you want to solve?
I thought that this dialog would cover the most frequent types of installation and would help the partitioner to make more sensible proposals. And especially beginners will see at an early stage that this openSUSE thing will be able to coexist with their precious Windows partitions and will feel relieved :-)
This would be another approach that I would appreciate if the above mentioned installation modes (add, modify existing (replace, upgrade, repair)) are detected safely or may be selected without clicking through a bunch of dialog boxes. Cheers, Marc --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Marc Ensenbach wrote:
Yes, I have some... 1.) Where would you like to put "Add-On products"? 2.) Where would you like to put "Automatic configuration"? 3.) How would you like to deal with the fact that not all systems are displayed for upgrade, some partitions are not visible unless u user selects to "Show all partitions" (those partitions/systems that are somehow invalid for the upgrade mechanism). Additionally, probing disks and validating systems takes too much time for every user to disturb with the delay. And I'm afraid the dialog is too complex to be understandable for the first sight. It's not wrong trying to design new installation dialogs but you might stop to think what exactly you want to solve? Isn't more helpful to design new bullet-proof partitioner wizard dialogs depending on the selected installation mode and the current disk state? There are several use cases but you can't cover them all by one superb dialog (having the dialog understandable for all users, of course). * New installation * Disk is blank (use the whole disk?) (make a proposal/partition manually?) * Some other systems are already installed (leave them all/remove them/remove some?) * Enough space for new installation (make a proposal/partition manually?) * Disk is full (make a proposal/resize manually/resize what?) * Upgrade (which system?) Bye Lukas -- Lukas Ocilka, YaST Developer (xn--luk-gla45d) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Ano, ano. Moudry rozkaz. Sam jsem nemel v tech gratulacich jasno.
Lukas Ocilka schrieb:
On the next screen.
2.) Where would you like to put "Automatic configuration"?
ditto
If a system that does not support upgrade/repair, the respective options should be greyed out. Only those already installed Linux systems that are precisely recognised during probing should appear in the combo box. For the remaining problems it might be sensible to offer an option that says "use expert partitioner later on".
Additionally, probing disks and validating systems takes too much time for every user to disturb with the delay.
OK, that is a disadvantage that I might have underestimated.
And I'm afraid the dialog is too complex to be understandable for the first sight.
I do not think that it is more complex than for example the time zone selection screen.
It's not wrong trying to design new installation dialogs but you might stop to think what exactly you want to solve?
I thought that this dialog would cover the most frequent types of installation and would help the partitioner to make more sensible proposals. And especially beginners will see at an early stage that this openSUSE thing will be able to coexist with their precious Windows partitions and will feel relieved :-)
This would be another approach that I would appreciate if the above mentioned installation modes (add, modify existing (replace, upgrade, repair)) are detected safely or may be selected without clicking through a bunch of dialog boxes. Cheers, Marc --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
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Lukas Ocilka
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Marc Ensenbach