[opensuse-factory] Growing some openSUSE ARMs
Sorry for the cross posting, but I thought it worth the extra noise ;-) One of the things that came out of the recent Geeko Love-In for me was a new project to immerse myself in within openSUSE. Yeah I know, we have enough existing projects already so why create a new one? Simples! Believe it or not but openSUSE is behind the curve in a specific segment, and that segment has yet to explode to its full potential. That segment is ARM. No I'm not talking about your upper body appendages, but the architecture that powers most of your little devices (and some bigger ones too). Almost all smartphones, tablets and many other consumer devices are powered by ARM from one of the numerous licensees. Didn't openSUSE do something about this a while ago? Yes we did. Unfortunately the effort seems to have bitrotted somewhat, there were numerous reasons and I don't even prophesise to know the all either. As such I'm going to try and kickstart things, and see it through and hopefully see it grow. As I mentioned, this idea came up at the conference when I was talking to numerous people (I forget how it all started, but that doesn't really matter). There was an overwhelmingly positive view on the matter, and that for me was all that counts. Now let me be crystal clear here, *THIS WILL NOT BE A ONE MAN SHOW!!* I mentioned previously that my view is that we as a community are pretty lazy at times with getting our hands dirty. As such if you think things are going slow or not going in the direction you would like, don't moan. Get your hands dirty and help make a difference. The process will not be an easy one either, so don't expect a port to magically appear over night. If we're lucky we might be able to have a working port in 6 months. Maybe longer, maybe shorter; ultimately that lies with us as a community. Stage one has begun already thanks to Adrian Schroeter, Alex Graf and Dirk Mueller. Stage one comprises of getting the boot strap process to work. At a cursory level this means getting the packages required for setting up a build chroot environment and for building these packages on the target ARM architecture. This will possibly take a fair amount of time, and no I won't give any timelines for this - how long is a piece of string? openSUSE has a couple of advantages here, 1) we have the OBS which can cross build and if need be cross compile packages for numerous architectures (ARM included) so we are going to make a start with that; 2) SUSE are going to be doing another HackWeek (I think it is next week) which means Adrian, Alex, Dirk and anyone else that has knowledge, experience or interest can join in the fun and pain almost full time for a week - let's not kid ourselves here there is a high probability for lots of pain, but also fun ;-) Thing is HackWeek is not just for SUSE staff, it is also for the community. You can join in and spend some quality time on the project with those that know a whole heap of stuff, and learn from them and maybe even teach them something too. We are going to be targeting ARMv7 nothing older I'm afraid this means CORTEX-A8 and above (looking at A9 primarily and then the new A15 when it's available), it gets too messy otherwise and it is already messy enough.If you have knowledge and experience, please help out. If you don't take part you have no justification to complain - you've got to be in it to win it ;-) So I'm basically just giving you all a heads up on this effort, and will update you as regularly as possible (I'm hoping to do something weekly maybe). In the meantime, if you're interested join #opensuse-arm on Freenode and the opensuse-arm mailing list. *DO NOT HARRASS* for updates, if there is something to say it will be said. If you've got a question, ask and *WAIT* for an answer. If you want to help out but want to know how ask and *WAIT* for an answer. I will try and get something on the wiki soon, with a todo list etc. Thanks and here's to getting our Geeko some ARMs. Regards, Andy -- Andrew Wafaa IRC: FunkyPenguin GPG: 0x3A36312F -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Donnerstag 22 September 2011 16:05:44 Andrew Wafaa wrote:
the architecture that powers most of your little devices (and some bigger ones too). Almost all smartphones, tablets and many other consumer devices are powered by ARM from one of the numerous licensees.
The openSUSE member who were allowed to vote decided that openSUSE does not want to run on those “little devices”. http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Strategy says:
openSUSE does not: (...) Work on Mobile or embedded devices. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On 09/22/2011 04:42 PM, Markus Slopianka wrote:
The openSUSE member who were allowed to vote decided that openSUSE does not want to run on those “little devices”. http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Strategy says:
openSUSE does not: (...) Work on Mobile or embedded devices.
The same document also says: "It does not aim to limit anyone within the community to work on what they want!" and "We encourage and enable the users in our community to contribute to openSUSE and to shape its future, lowering participation barriers in our community wherever possible." -- Best Regards / S pozdravom, Pavol RUSNAK SUSE LINUX, s.r.o openSUSE Boosters Team Lihovarska 1060/12 PGP 0xA6917144 19000 Praha 9 prusnak[at]opensuse.org Czech Republic -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Markus Slopianka schrieb:
On Donnerstag 22 September 2011 16:05:44 Andrew Wafaa wrote:
the architecture that powers most of your little devices (and some bigger ones too). Almost all smartphones, tablets and many other consumer devices are powered by ARM from one of the numerous licensees.
The openSUSE member who were allowed to vote decided that openSUSE does not want to run on those “little devices”. http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Strategy says:
openSUSE does not: (...) Work on Mobile or embedded devices.
ARM Servers have been the new buzz for a while, due to the energy-saving prospects I'm pretty sure they'll have an interesting market. I guess openSUSE wants to run on those, right? Robert Kaiser -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 03:05:44PM +0100, Andrew Wafaa wrote:
We are going to be targeting ARMv7 nothing older I'm afraid this means CORTEX-A8 and above (looking at A9 primarily and then the new A15 when it's available), it gets too messy otherwise and it is already messy enough.If you have knowledge and experience, please help out. If you don't take part you have no justification to complain - you've got to be in it to win it ;-)
I know we talked about this at the openSUSE conference, and I'm glad that you are starting to kick this off, it's great. But, what specific machine are you targeting this to run on to start with? We need some kind of specific platform to aim for besides a semi-vague processor level, in order to get a valid kernel and tool-chain up and running. The kernel specifically is going to be a bit difficult as each individual platform needs tweaks in order to have it work properly due to the lack of discoverable busses (device-tree work notwithstanding). In other words, what box do I need to go buy in order to help make this possible? :) thanks, greg k-h -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Am Thu 22 Sep 2011 04:56:49 PM CEST schrieb Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de>:
In other words, what box do I need to go buy in order to help make this possible? :)
In the beginning of the year, I bought a Smartbook, and the guys at Genesi, USA (http://www.genesi-usa.com/products) are rather smart. ATM, Ubuntu is running on these devices, but it would be nice to have openSUSE as additional OS ;-) Here they usually announce news: http://blog.efikamx.info/2011_07_01_archive.html And here, discussions take place: http://www.powerdeveloper.org/forums/index.php Karl -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Thu, 2011-09-22 at 07:56 -0700, Greg KH wrote:
In other words, what box do I need to go buy in order to help make this possible? :)
At the minute no decision has been made on exact hardware. I'm assessing certain opportunities and as soon as any form of decision or recommendation is reached, I'll make an announcement. Regards, Andy -- Andrew Wafaa IRC: FunkyPenguin GPG: 0x3A36312F -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On 22/09/11 11:56, Greg KH wrote:
In other words, what box do I need to go buy in order to help make this possible? :)
This is exactly the question I have ;) you know, all is nice in theory with emulation and cross-compilers but in reality it doesn't quite work that way... so would be really nice to have real hardware handy, preferable something with more than 1GB RAM otherwise is gonna be painful... People have told me that cross compilers do work well but I'm not buying that assertion really ;-P -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Count me in as well - I'm interested in porting openSUSE to an ARM based platform :). Just let me know which is the hardware I need to get and I think I should be able to get it and start :) -Ashwin On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 6:54 PM, Cristian Rodríguez <crrodriguez@opensuse.org> wrote:
On 22/09/11 11:56, Greg KH wrote:
In other words, what box do I need to go buy in order to help make this possible? :)
This is exactly the question I have ;) you know, all is nice in theory with emulation and cross-compilers but in reality it doesn't quite work that way... so would be really nice to have real hardware handy, preferable something with more than 1GB RAM otherwise is gonna be painful...
People have told me that cross compilers do work well but I'm not buying that assertion really ;-P
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On 29/09/11 02:54, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
On 22/09/11 11:56, Greg KH wrote:
In other words, what box do I need to go buy in order to help make this possible? :) This is exactly the question I have ;) you know, all is nice in theory with emulation and cross-compilers but in reality it doesn't quite work that way... so would be really nice to have real hardware handy, preferable something with more than 1GB RAM otherwise is gonna be painful...
People have told me that cross compilers do work well but I'm not buying that assertion really ;-P
The majority of systems are based on ARM v7l (Cortex A8). root@g3vbv:~# uname -a Linux g3vbv 3.1.0-rc7-d3 #1 SMP Fri Sep 23 00:08:59 UTC 2011 armv7l armv7l armv7l GNU/Linux root@g3vbv:~# cat /etc/lsb-release DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu DISTRIB_RELEASE=11.04 DISTRIB_CODENAME=natty DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 11.04" root@g3vbv:~# I am not sure if Ubuntu runs on all the variants out there, but it seems pretty generic. It would be a good idea to look at what Ubuntu has done which seems very successful. I ran Ansgstrom and Ubuntu on the Beagleboard C3 before I got the XM. I started on the Beagleboard XM with ubuntu-11.04-preinstalled-netbook-armel+omap.img.gz and do online updates regularly. I'm not 100% sure of cross compilers either as about the only things I've successfully built are ARM kernels. Where I saw failures, it was due to missing compatible libraries. I got an error and I just gave up and never got back to looking closer to see if it was solvable. Where Ubuntu has trumped the Angstrom distro is in the vast range of apps and utilities available from Ubuntu repositories, so building on native ARM is as easy as building on x86 ... ignoring speed. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support Senior Staff Specialist, Cricket Coach Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Thu, September 22, 2011 4:05 pm, Andrew Wafaa wrote:
Sorry for the cross posting, but I thought it worth the extra noise ;-)
One of the things that came out of the recent Geeko Love-In for me was a new project to immerse myself in within openSUSE. Yeah I know, we have enough existing projects already so why create a new one? Simples! Believe it or not but openSUSE is behind the curve in a specific segment, and that segment has yet to explode to its full potential. That segment is ARM. No I'm not talking about your upper body appendages, but the architecture that powers most of your little devices (and some bigger ones too). Almost all smartphones, tablets and many other consumer devices are powered by ARM from one of the numerous licensees. <snip> .. </snip>
The process will not be an easy one either, so don't expect a port to magically appear over night. If we're lucky we might be able to have a working port in 6 months. Maybe longer, maybe shorter; ultimately that lies with us as a community.
Stage one has begun already thanks to Adrian Schroeter, Alex Graf and Dirk Mueller. Stage one comprises of getting the boot strap process to work. At a cursory level this means getting the packages required for setting up a build chroot environment and for building these packages on the target ARM architecture. This will possibly take a fair amount of time, and no I won't give any timelines for this - how long is a piece of string?
openSUSE has a couple of advantages here, 1) we have the OBS which can cross build and if need be cross compile packages for numerous architectures (ARM included) so we are going to make a start with that;
If I understood correctly the ARM build is currently broken in OBS (build.opensuse.org)?
2) SUSE are going to be doing another HackWeek (I think it is next week) which means Adrian, Alex, Dirk and anyone else that has knowledge, experience or interest can join in the fun and pain almost full time for a week - let's not kid ourselves here there is a high probability for lots of pain, but also fun ;-) Thing is HackWeek is not just for SUSE staff, it is also for the community. You can join in and spend some quality time on the project with those that know a whole heap of stuff, and learn from them and maybe even teach them something too.
We are going to be targeting ARMv7 nothing older I'm afraid this means CORTEX-A8 and above (looking at A9 primarily and then the new A15 when it's available), it gets too messy otherwise and it is already messy enough.If you have knowledge and experience, please help out. If you don't take part you have no justification to complain - you've got to be in it to win it ;-)
So I'm basically just giving you all a heads up on this effort, and will update you as regularly as possible (I'm hoping to do something weekly maybe). In the meantime, if you're interested join #opensuse-arm on Freenode and the opensuse-arm mailing list. *DO NOT HARRASS* for updates, if there is something to say it will be said. If you've got a question, ask and *WAIT* for an answer. If you want to help out but want to know how ask and *WAIT* for an answer. I will try and get something on the wiki soon, with a todo list etc.
I think we should get people like Jan-Simon Möller on board as he started the first openSuSE ARM build in 2009 and also the ARM build in OBS. I think it'll kick-start the ARM port.
Thanks and here's to getting our Geeko some ARMs.
Regards,
Andy
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<snip> Well cool - why did it take us ~ 1.5 years to notice ;) . I just dropped factory pack then as it is too much for just one penguin.
2) SUSE are going to be doing another HackWeek (I think it is next week) which means Adrian, Alex, Dirk and anyone else that has knowledge, experience or interest can join in the fun and pain almost full time for a week - let's not kid ourselves here there is a high probability for lots of pain, but also fun ;-) Thing is HackWeek is not just for SUSE staff, it is also for the community. You can join in and spend some quality time on the project with those that know a whole heap of stuff, and learn from them and maybe even teach them something too.
We are going to be targeting ARMv7 nothing older I'm afraid this means CORTEX-A8 and above (looking at A9 primarily and then the new A15 when it's available), it gets too messy otherwise and it is already messy enough.If you have knowledge and experience, please help out. If you don't take part you have no justification to complain - you've got to be in it to win it ;-)
So I'm basically just giving you all a heads up on this effort, and will update you as regularly as possible (I'm hoping to do something weekly maybe). In the meantime, if you're interested join #opensuse-arm on Freenode and the opensuse-arm mailing list. *DO NOT HARRASS* for updates, if there is something to say it will be said. If you've got a question, ask and *WAIT* for an answer. If you want to help out but want to know how ask and *WAIT* for an answer. I will try and get something on the wiki soon, with a todo list etc.
I think we should get people like Jan-Simon Möller on board as he started the first openSuSE ARM build in 2009 and also the ARM build in OBS. I think it'll kick-start the ARM port.
Thanks and here's to getting our Geeko some ARMs.
So let get a crew together - we have the knowledge and the tools. I'm willing to do my part on the weekends and continue what I did back then. Time to wipe android from the transformer ?! ;) Best, Jan-Simon -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Hello, On 09/23/2011 09:16 PM, Jan-Simon Möller wrote:
<snip>
Well cool - why did it take us ~ 1.5 years to notice ;) . I guess, I was a bit ahead of time when I wrote https://features.opensuse.org/310070 :-)
So let get a crew together - we have the knowledge and the tools. I'm willing to do my part on the weekends and continue what I did back then. I ready to help with packaging. As I learned with PPC, it's often not coding but packaging work, and that's something I can also do.
Time to wipe android from the transformer ?! ;) Or Ubuntu from my EFIKA MX :) Well, that's Linux, but that the one I prefer...
Personally I'd prefer porting to the EFIKA MX. Not only because I already have it, but because it's both an end user device and a developer machine with serial port access & Co. Most of the other ARM based machines are either too developer centric or too much end user. A notable exception is the trimslice, but that's not available in a portable format, like the EFIKA smartbook. Bye, CzP -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On 24/09/11 14:12, Peter Czanik wrote:
Hello,
On 09/23/2011 09:16 PM, Jan-Simon Möller wrote:
<snip>
Well cool - why did it take us ~ 1.5 years to notice ;) . I guess, I was a bit ahead of time when I wrote https://features.opensuse.org/310070 :-)
So let get a crew together - we have the knowledge and the tools. I'm willing to do my part on the weekends and continue what I did back then. I ready to help with packaging. As I learned with PPC, it's often not coding but packaging work, and that's something I can also do.
Time to wipe android from the transformer ?! ;) Or Ubuntu from my EFIKA MX :) Well, that's Linux, but that the one I prefer...
Personally I'd prefer porting to the EFIKA MX. Not only because I already have it, but because it's both an end user device and a developer machine with serial port access& Co. Most of the other ARM based machines are either too developer centric or too much end user. A notable exception is the trimslice, but that's not available in a portable format, like the EFIKA smartbook. Bye, CzP This is the first I heard of the EFIKA, seems more of an end user/developer device.
The bulk of ARM is used in embedded solutions like smart phones and process control - not necessarily for development, surfing the internet or email. The intended use I have is for SDR (Software Defined Radio) where a small portable amateur radio station could be packaged and I would also have a development platform into the bargain. That eliminates having to carry around a separate radio and a laptop with interconnecting cables and depending on radio architecture, an outboard USB sound card. See http://www.rarcpio.net/beaglebrick/pics/ for an illustration, a Softrock SDR radio is packaged with a Beagleboard and a nice 7" touch screen, all fitting in a package the size of a small notebook. Besides my specific needs, there is a multiplicity of other deployments that are ARM based. Ubuntu runs on it which means access to ARM repositories that supply everything that's available for X86 based systems. There is also Android and Fedora (hardly ever mentioned) available, with Angstrom predominating, but lacking the wide range of apps available on Ubuntu. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support Senior Staff Specialist, Cricket Coach Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On 23/09/11 16:16, Jan-Simon Möller wrote:
So let get a crew together - we have the knowledge and the tools. I'm willing to do my part on the weekends and continue what I did back then.
Time to wipe android from the transformer ?! ;)
Yeah, I would be interested in this thing as well =) count me in.. however I need hardware... Cheers. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, 2011-09-28 at 21:03 -0300, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
On 23/09/11 16:16, Jan-Simon Möller wrote:
So let get a crew together - we have the knowledge and the tools. I'm willing to do my part on the weekends and continue what I did back then.
Time to wipe android from the transformer ?! ;)
Yeah, I would be interested in this thing as well =) count me in.. however I need hardware...
have a look at "hp T5335" or its little brother, the T5325 hw -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On 29/09/11 17:12, Hans Witvliet wrote:
On Wed, 2011-09-28 at 21:03 -0300, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
On 23/09/11 16:16, Jan-Simon Möller wrote:
So let get a crew together - we have the knowledge and the tools. I'm willing to do my part on the weekends and continue what I did back then.
Time to wipe android from the transformer ?! ;)
Yeah, I would be interested in this thing as well =) count me in.. however I need hardware...
have a look at "hp T5335" or its little brother, the T5325
hw
Do you know about some product with more ram.. ? I also checked the pandaboard which cost 175 bucks BUT over 100 in shipping and handling to here...(Chile) :-| -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Thu, 2011-09-29 at 18:36 -0300, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
have a look at "hp T5335" or its little brother, the T5325
hw
Do you know about some product with more ram.. ?
The T5335 has 1GB of mem.... Isn't that enough for small servers of ultra lightweight desktops? If you need much more than that, then why a small footprint machine like those arm-boxes? I mean, there are other small-form-factor boxes witha mainstream Intel cpu in which you can plug cots-memory. hw -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Just a quick reminder that openFATE is the supposed to be the way to discuss ideas like this. And yet, no one has brought up: https://features.opensuse.org/310070 fyi: I don't really think openFATE works all that well because you can't edit the comments down into a readable end-product. A team page on the wiki might be the best way to track plans and options. Greg On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 10:05 AM, Andrew Wafaa <awafaa@opensuse.org> wrote:
Sorry for the cross posting, but I thought it worth the extra noise ;-)
One of the things that came out of the recent Geeko Love-In for me was a new project to immerse myself in within openSUSE. Yeah I know, we have enough existing projects already so why create a new one? Simples! Believe it or not but openSUSE is behind the curve in a specific segment, and that segment has yet to explode to its full potential. That segment is ARM. No I'm not talking about your upper body appendages, but the architecture that powers most of your little devices (and some bigger ones too). Almost all smartphones, tablets and many other consumer devices are powered by ARM from one of the numerous licensees.
Didn't openSUSE do something about this a while ago? Yes we did. Unfortunately the effort seems to have bitrotted somewhat, there were numerous reasons and I don't even prophesise to know the all either.
As such I'm going to try and kickstart things, and see it through and hopefully see it grow. As I mentioned, this idea came up at the conference when I was talking to numerous people (I forget how it all started, but that doesn't really matter). There was an overwhelmingly positive view on the matter, and that for me was all that counts. Now let me be crystal clear here, *THIS WILL NOT BE A ONE MAN SHOW!!* I mentioned previously that my view is that we as a community are pretty lazy at times with getting our hands dirty. As such if you think things are going slow or not going in the direction you would like, don't moan. Get your hands dirty and help make a difference.
The process will not be an easy one either, so don't expect a port to magically appear over night. If we're lucky we might be able to have a working port in 6 months. Maybe longer, maybe shorter; ultimately that lies with us as a community.
Stage one has begun already thanks to Adrian Schroeter, Alex Graf and Dirk Mueller. Stage one comprises of getting the boot strap process to work. At a cursory level this means getting the packages required for setting up a build chroot environment and for building these packages on the target ARM architecture. This will possibly take a fair amount of time, and no I won't give any timelines for this - how long is a piece of string?
openSUSE has a couple of advantages here, 1) we have the OBS which can cross build and if need be cross compile packages for numerous architectures (ARM included) so we are going to make a start with that; 2) SUSE are going to be doing another HackWeek (I think it is next week) which means Adrian, Alex, Dirk and anyone else that has knowledge, experience or interest can join in the fun and pain almost full time for a week - let's not kid ourselves here there is a high probability for lots of pain, but also fun ;-) Thing is HackWeek is not just for SUSE staff, it is also for the community. You can join in and spend some quality time on the project with those that know a whole heap of stuff, and learn from them and maybe even teach them something too.
We are going to be targeting ARMv7 nothing older I'm afraid this means CORTEX-A8 and above (looking at A9 primarily and then the new A15 when it's available), it gets too messy otherwise and it is already messy enough.If you have knowledge and experience, please help out. If you don't take part you have no justification to complain - you've got to be in it to win it ;-)
So I'm basically just giving you all a heads up on this effort, and will update you as regularly as possible (I'm hoping to do something weekly maybe). In the meantime, if you're interested join #opensuse-arm on Freenode and the opensuse-arm mailing list. *DO NOT HARRASS* for updates, if there is something to say it will be said. If you've got a question, ask and *WAIT* for an answer. If you want to help out but want to know how ask and *WAIT* for an answer. I will try and get something on the wiki soon, with a todo list etc.
Thanks and here's to getting our Geeko some ARMs.
Regards,
Andy
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