On Thu, 26 Feb 2015 20:42:18 +0100 Manfred Hollstein wrote:

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What is a preference running 'zypper dup' instead of 'zypper up' [in your case]?

hmm, the OP talked about Tumbleweed, didn't he? Instructions for upgrading can be found here:

https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Tumbleweed_installation

I got your shot:

There are two tasks needed in order to upgrade from any release to Tumbleweed:

Not the case. The OP talked about "latest 'zypper dup' " Let me quote 'zypper 8 man' update (up) [options] [packagename]... Update installed packages with newer versions, where possible. This command will not update packages which would require change of package vendor unless the vendor is specified in /etc/zypp/vendors.d, or which would require manual resolution of problems with dependencies. Such non-installable updates will then be listed in separate section of the summary as "The following package updates will NOT be installed:". dist-upgrade (dup) [options] Perform a distribution upgrade. This command applies the state of (specified) repositories onto the system; upgrades (or even downgrades) installed packages to versions found in repositories, removes packages that are no longer in the repositories and pose a dependency problem for the upgrade, handles package splits and renames, etc. If no repositories are specified via the --from option, zypper will do the upgrade with all defined repositories. This can be a problem if the system contains conflicting repositories, like repositories for two different distribution releases. This often happens if one forgets to remove an older release repository after adding a new one, say openSUSE 13.1 and openSUSE 13.2. -- WBR Kyrill

Hi, On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 09:48:31PM +0200, ellanios82 wrote:

On 02/26/2015 09:17 PM, Kyrill Detinov wrote:

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On Thu, 26 Feb 2015 16:13:14 +0200 ellanios82 wrote:

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- in case of interest :

after latest 'zypper dup' What is a preference running 'zypper dup' instead of 'zypper up' [in your case]?

- IF , i am not mistaken : "zypper dup" is the appropriate invocation for tumbleweed

zypper "dup" performs vendor changes while "up" sticks with a vendor. How does this matter with Tumbleweed? Have for example network:samba:STABLE as additional repository active. If you then call zypper dup all available packages from there might get pulled in if they are "newer" == have a version and release > than the installed one. Now it's up to you to consider again if zypper dup is the correct or the wrong approach. My answer as in so many cases is: it depends. I hope and intend to make the unclear situation even a bit more unclear. ;) Cheers, Lars -- Lars Müller [ˈlaː(r)z ˈmʏlɐ] Samba Team + SUSE Labs SUSE Linux, Maxfeldstraße 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany

* Kyrill Detinov [02-26-15 18:53]:

On Thu, 26 Feb 2015 22:41:32 +0100 Lars Müller wrote:

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What is a preference running 'zypper dup' instead of 'zypper up' [in your case]?

- IF , i am not mistaken : "zypper dup" is the appropriate invocation for tumbleweed

zypper "dup" performs vendor changes while "up" sticks with a vendor.

Running 'zypper up' for years, since 2009, no 'zypper dup' at all. I think, I am in a good state.

And I have been using "dup" since first advised when Tw originated and that was the *advised* method. One could even specify individual packages and repos if desired. How many ways to skin a cat and which is correct. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org