All meeting minutes can be found here: https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/ReleaseEngineering-meeting ## Participants rbrown,guillaumeg,skriesch,dleuenberger, ddemaio, michel, lkocman,maxlin, wengel !!! Please be aware that this meeting is hosted on https://meet.opensuse.org/ReleaseEngineeringMeeting ## Leap Lubos's Christmas break starts on 17th Dec. Demo of SR mirroring today after the openSUSE Rel-eng meeting. First Leap 15.3 build which is based on SLE 15 SP3 binaries. Adrian: remarks about our speed-up of build (temp. disabling of backports). * Leap 15.2 iso respin still pending https://github.com/openSUSE/software-o-o/pull/908 Public Arm survey results https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:15.3/Surveys/ARM_Usecases Meeting minutes for the review: https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/ReleaseEngineering-20201202-arm The very first build of Leap 15.3 based on SLE 15 SP3 binaries https://openqa.opensuse.org/tests/overview?distri=opensuse&version=15.3&build=32.4&groupid=50 ## openSUSE Tumbleweed * RPM 4.16 in Staging:A, together with brp-check-suse. * openblas: https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1179764 * postgresql: https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1179765 (fixes submitted) * Mozilla (FF and TB): https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1179766 The rest in Staging:A seems to settle * Ruby 3.0 scheduled for Dec 25; YaST is not ready for it, the rest seems ok * Active work won rpmlint 2.0 is ongoing; integration work is messy, due to its huge dep chain * DNS on openQA/ariel is stil set to GOOGLE ## Richard (Kubic/TW MicroOS) MicroOS is moving to selinux by default (but not Kubic, yet). Please join the selinux@lists.opensuse.org mailinglist for all discussions related to improving SELinux on openSUSE. SELinux will be configured automatically via an RPM package while we wait for SELinux support to be added in YaST. Kubic's 1.19 certification got approved, now kubernetes 1.20 is released so packaging that All MicroOS/Kubic appliance/vm/pi images will now show systemd service status during boot, so users can be sure things are still happening during long running service starts (eg. complex combustion scripts) MicroOS tasks being tracked on a public github project tracker - https://github.com/orgs/kubic-project/projects/4 . Everyone should please feel free to leave suggestions or (even better) work on the issues tracked there. ## Max * Working on Backports project for 15.3/15 SP3 * Understand rpmlint-backports from Wolfgang * Adjusted groups.yml, waiting for a new product build, new maintenance check-in or SP3 check-in triggered product rebuild always... * Finally we got a new Leap build! lkocman: kde4 drop by Antonio L., https://github.com/openSUSE/release-notes-openSUSE/pull/102 maxlin: ^ the goal should be to remove libqt4 btw ## Guillaume - Arm Tumbleweed: * is rolling no blocker. * BTI bug with statically linked binaries has been identified and will be fixed: https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1179450 Leap 15.3 ARM: * New openQA snapshot today, aarch64 setup looks good. * Priority of backports:15.3 increased (will result into more workers) * Armv7: So far survey results are showing that we have to keep ARMv7 on openSUSE Leap 15.3 https://survey.opensuse.org/index.php/125963 (See Leap section). Lubos to schedule meeting with Adrian, Dirk, Guillaume on next steps. RPi 400 is still a WIP. We already have patches for u-boot, waiting for internal review: https://github.com/openSUSE/u-boot/pull/14 WSL: WIP to have WSL on aarch64 onhttps://build.opensuse.org/project/show/home:Guillaume_G:WSL The goal is to haveWSL-DistroLauncher package built for aarch64. Lubos: no update either Will be done today: On this topic I have an agreement with WSL team to publish a blog post about how to get this working manually via wsl.exe import of aarch64 binary archive from OBS. Fedora recently published something like this, but for x86. WSL information: https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:WSL https://en.opensuse.org/WSL/Building_in_OBS ## Michel ppc64le, no updates Lubos requested additional HW resources for openqa, Hector (our Power TPM) is on it. Adrian: there is support for ppc VM in the script, but we need KVM for building images. Lubos to check with Hector. ## Sarah - s390x * IBM requires an additional approval by SUSE, because openSUSE is the open-source project of SUSE lkocman: anything that I could help with? * Today is a meeting about these topics and the topic NDA because of these dependencies. * Sarah can do this job official, if all is approved from both sides. She had to create an additional openSUSE account for work (skriesch). * We can use additional hardware capacity for tests in the LinuxONE Community Cloud after the agreement of both sides. Dimstar: Sarah (user skriesch) should be the same permissions for s390x as Michel has on ppc64le. The isolation of s390x resources SUSE/openSUSE was a problem in the past. ## Doug * Survey questions updated - https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/meeting-poll-08-12 * Will be transitioning shop.o.o from spreadshirt to freewear.org * matomo (former piwik) is down. (heroes are looking at it) * opportunities, differentiation with announcement of centos change ## Dirk Not present Finished rewording of Distribution Architecture Policy and posted update (was: Tier1 Policy): https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:OpenSUSE_Distribution_Architectures_Policy Various Tumbleweed package updates: Reviewed https://github.com/openSUSE/software-o-o/pull/908 ## Gerald Not present ## Wolfgang (Package Hub) Submitted requests to update dependencies in SLE, especially for KDE Plasma 5 packages that needs updated dependencies Looking into unresolvables on other archs than x86_64 (e.g. s390x) Still problem that target build openSUSE:Backports:SLE-15-SP3 isn't included in many submit requests so we rebuild it for that target to see build results Adrian: user creates an SR which targets Backports. Request would first create a branch, and then would make request. We can't enable it without communication. Adrian thinks it might only work in the :Update setup. Wolfgang: people are currently confused, so communication is crucial. Now building for SLE-15-SP3 217 failed packages that are conflicting with packages from SLE, mainly Workstation Extension ( Lubos: all new package reuests for openSUSE Leap 15.3 have to be re- done for backports. Could we use new default targe (Backports)? Adrian: we shouldn't override it by default. Max: Is it possible to do all new package requests against Backports by default? Adrian: yes but we have to think it through. Adrian: we could perhaps redirect sr by default. And admins could instanciate it in case that we want to keep it in Leap project. ## Adrian - CtLG All that's needed should be done, including publishing. Max: we can enable publishing in :ToTest Will work on Leap 15.3 publishing these days. Afterwards Jump 15.2 project will be removed everywhere. lkocman: Any news from Marco on SR mirroring? Adrian/Max: SR redirection is already in place, should work for frozen projects as well. We need to see if there is any gap in between freezing Backports and Leap. ## Antonio Mainly working on a couple of things related to Leap 15.2/15.3: * bitmap/Type1 fonts and gtk issue (https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1174895 * Pipewire dependencies on the Firefox package (https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1178809 Dominique: Can you use boolean (Requires) dependencies? Note: we won't be able to do a version update of KDE Plasma on 15.3 due to only having Qt 5.12 while the next Plasma LTS release will require Qt 5.15 lkocman: this goes hand in hand with the "conservative" SLE 15 SP3 release. So okay with me. Max: KDE4, is currently build failing in Backports for x86_64. Do we want to put resources into fixing it? Antonio: What exactly does KDE4 mean? Max: Everything Antonio: we do not want to support that. Max: do we want to follow TW and drop entire KDE4? Antonio: I'll have a look to see if some big fix could help, otherwise I'll discuss it with Fabian. lkocman: Ask on factory and then maybe drop it