[opensuse-factory] Which package recommends a certain other package?
Hi, the subject is not very clear, I guess, but I miss the right words to say it in short... When doing "zypper inr", zypper tries to install the recommended packages that are not yet installed. In my case, I get ===snip=== # zypper inr Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... Resolving package dependencies... The following 20 NEW packages are going to be installed: gstreamer-plugins-bad-lang libreoffice libreoffice-branding-upstream libreoffice-icon-theme-breeze libreoffice-icon-theme-galaxy libreoffice-icon-theme-hicontrast libreoffice-icon-theme-oxygen libreoffice-icon-theme-sifr libreoffice-l10n-en libreoffice-mailmerge libreoffice-math libreoffice-pyuno libreoffice-share-linker lifecycle-data-openSUSE obs-service-format_spec_file obs-service-obs_scm-common obs-service-recompress obs-service-set_version obs-service-source_validator obs-service-tar_scm 20 new packages to install. ===pins=== While it's generally a good idea to recommend the installation of LibreOffice, I want to avoid it here, since the version 5.3 deployed by openSUSE does not work for me. I already installed the packages from libreoffice.org: ===snip=== libreoffice5.3-5.3.5.2-2.x86_64 libreoffice5.3-base-5.3.5.2-2.x86_64 libreoffice5.3-calc-5.3.5.2-2.x86_64 libreoffice5.3-de-5.3.5.2-2.x86_64 libreoffice5.3-dict-de-5.3.5.2-2.x86_64 libreoffice5.3-dict-en-5.3.5.2-2.x86_64 libreoffice5.3-dict-es-5.3.5.2-2.x86_64 libreoffice5.3-dict-fr-5.3.5.2-2.x86_64 libreoffice5.3-draw-5.3.5.2-2.x86_64 libreoffice5.3-en-US-5.3.5.2-2.x86_64 libreoffice5.3-freedesktop-menus-5.3.5-2.noarch libreoffice5.3-impress-5.3.5.2-2.x86_64 libreoffice5.3-math-5.3.5.2-2.x86_64 libreoffice5.3-ure-5.3.5.2-2.x86_64 libreoffice5.3-writer-5.3.5.2-2.x86_64 ===pins=== Now I want to know which package recommends the installation of those various libreoffice packages. How would I do that? * I know "rpm -q --requires" and "rpm -q --whatrequires", but those packages are no requirements. * There is a "rpm -q --recommands", but this works in the wrong direction ;). What could I use instead of the unknown "rpm -q --whatrecommends libreoffice" (rpm: --whatrecommends: unknown option)? A "rpm -qa --recommends" generates a lot of output, but applying a "grep libreoffice" to it is quite senseless :-\ Also, YaST doesn't offer this feature, I can ask only for "Provides" and "Requires" here. Only when I go to package "patterns-openSUSE-office", I see that this package requires libreoffice (also via "rpm -q --recommends patterns-openSUSE-office"). But this was an easy guess, how can I proceed in cases that are not so obvious? Regards, Werner --
Moin, On Tue, 22 Aug 2017, 08:42:28 +0200, Werner Flamme wrote:
[..] What could I use instead of the unknown "rpm -q --whatrecommends libreoffice" (rpm: --whatrecommends: unknown option)?
zypper se -s --recommends libreoffice should do what you want. HTH, cheers. l8er manfred
Manfred Hollstein [22.08.2017 08:50]:
Moin,
On Tue, 22 Aug 2017, 08:42:28 +0200, Werner Flamme wrote:
[..] What could I use instead of the unknown "rpm -q --whatrecommends libreoffice" (rpm: --whatrecommends: unknown option)?
zypper se -s --recommends libreoffice
should do what you want.
HTH, cheers.
l8er manfred
Ah, yes, thank you! In the resulting list, I only have to look for the "i" in the first column. Werner --
Werner Flamme [22.08.2017 08:54]:
Manfred Hollstein [22.08.2017 08:50]:
Moin,
On Tue, 22 Aug 2017, 08:42:28 +0200, Werner Flamme wrote:
[..] What could I use instead of the unknown "rpm -q --whatrecommends libreoffice" (rpm: --whatrecommends: unknown option)?
zypper se -s --recommends libreoffice
should do what you want.
HTH, cheers.
l8er manfred
Ah, yes, thank you!
In the resulting list, I only have to look for the "i" in the first column.
Werner
Even better: zypper -s -i --recommends :) Werner --
Dne úterý 22. srpna 2017 8:54:36 CEST, Werner Flamme napsal(a):
Manfred Hollstein [22.08.2017 08:50]:
On Tue, 22 Aug 2017, 08:42:28 +0200, Werner Flamme wrote:
[..] What could I use instead of the unknown "rpm -q --whatrecommends libreoffice" (rpm: --whatrecommends: unknown option)?
zypper se -s --recommends libreoffice
should do what you want.
Ah, yes, thank you!
In the resulting list, I only have to look for the "i" in the first column.
zypper se -si ...? # 'i' to list only installed packages -- Vojtěch Zeisek https://trapa.cz/
Vojtěch Zeisek [22.08.2017 08:58]:
Dne úterý 22. srpna 2017 8:54:36 CEST, Werner Flamme napsal(a):
Manfred Hollstein [22.08.2017 08:50]:
On Tue, 22 Aug 2017, 08:42:28 +0200, Werner Flamme wrote:
[..] What could I use instead of the unknown "rpm -q --whatrecommends libreoffice" (rpm: --whatrecommends: unknown option)?
zypper se -s --recommends libreoffice
should do what you want.
Ah, yes, thank you!
In the resulting list, I only have to look for the "i" in the first column.
zypper se -si ...? # 'i' to list only installed packages
Hm, strange things happen ;) ===snip=== # zypper inr Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... Resolving package dependencies... The following 8 NEW packages are going to be installed: gstreamer-plugins-bad-lang lifecycle-data-openSUSE obs-service-format_spec_file obs-service-obs_scm-common obs-service-recompress obs-service-set_version obs-service-source_validator obs-service-tar_scm 8 new packages to install. ===pins=== ===snip=== # zypper se -s --recommends lifecycle-data-openSUSE Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... No matching items found. ===pins=== *scratch head* The package will be pulled in as a recommended package, but nothing recommends it? Not even uninstalled packages? I don't understand the mechanism... Werner --
On Aug 22 2017, Werner Flamme <werner.flamme@ufz.de> wrote:
The package will be pulled in as a recommended package, but nothing recommends it? Not even uninstalled packages? I don't understand the mechanism...
It can be an indirect dependency, by recommending something else that is provided by the package. Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, SUSE Labs, schwab@suse.de GPG Key fingerprint = 0196 BAD8 1CE9 1970 F4BE 1748 E4D4 88E3 0EEA B9D7 "And now for something completely different." -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Tue, 2017-08-22 at 09:51 +0200, Werner Flamme wrote:
Hm, strange things happen ;)
===snip=== # zypper inr Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... Resolving package dependencies...
The following 8 NEW packages are going to be installed: gstreamer-plugins-bad-lang lifecycle-data-openSUSE obs-service-format_spec_file obs-service-obs_scm-common obs-service-recompress obs-service-set_version obs-service-source_validator obs-service-tar_scm
8 new packages to install. ===pins===
===snip=== # zypper se -s --recommends lifecycle-data-openSUSE Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... No matching items found. ===pins===
*scratch head*
The package will be pulled in as a recommended package, but nothing recommends it? Not even uninstalled packages? I don't understand the mechanism...
That is 'reverse' - actually nothing recommends lifecycle-data- openSUSE, but the package itself recommends its installation based on other packages being present: Supplements: packageand(openSUSE-release:zypper-lifecycle-plugin) so, as soon as openSUSE-release and zypper-lifecycle-plugin are being installed on the system, lifecycle-data-openSUSE is being marked as a recommended package. Cheers, Dominique
Dominique Leuenberger / DimStar [22.08.2017 10:20]:
On Tue, 2017-08-22 at 09:51 +0200, Werner Flamme wrote:
Hm, strange things happen ;)
===snip=== # zypper inr Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... Resolving package dependencies...
The following 8 NEW packages are going to be installed: gstreamer-plugins-bad-lang lifecycle-data-openSUSE obs-service-format_spec_file obs-service-obs_scm-common obs-service-recompress obs-service-set_version obs-service-source_validator obs-service-tar_scm
8 new packages to install. ===pins===
===snip=== # zypper se -s --recommends lifecycle-data-openSUSE Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... No matching items found. ===pins===
*scratch head*
The package will be pulled in as a recommended package, but nothing recommends it? Not even uninstalled packages? I don't understand the mechanism...
That is 'reverse' - actually nothing recommends lifecycle-data- openSUSE, but the package itself recommends its installation based on other packages being present:
Supplements: packageand(openSUSE-release:zypper-lifecycle-plugin)
so, as soon as openSUSE-release and zypper-lifecycle-plugin are being installed on the system, lifecycle-data-openSUSE is being marked as a recommended package.
Cheers, Dominique
Cool! Thank you, Dominique, I never knew about this possibility. Werner --
Hello, On Tue, 22 Aug 2017, Werner Flamme wrote:
What could I use instead of the unknown "rpm -q --whatrecommends libreoffice" (rpm: --whatrecommends: unknown option)?
A "rpm -qa --recommends" generates a lot of output, but applying a "grep libreoffice" to it is quite senseless :-\
Well, not really what you need, and that's been solved, but you can get the info that options give: rpm -qa --qf '[%{NAME}-%{VERSION}-%{RELEASE}:\t%{RECOMMENDS}\n]' | \ awk '$2 ~ /libreoffice/ { print; }' or rpm -qa --qf '[%{NAME}-%{VERSION}-%{RELEASE}:\t%{RECOMMENDNAME}\n]' | \ awk '$2 ~ /libreoffice/ { print; }' See 'rpm --querytags' for more available tags and the rpm-book for how to generally use the queryformat option. And no, all-uppercase is not neccessary for the querytags. You could put that into a script / shell-function, e.g. something along these lines: ==== ~/bin/rpm-whatrecommends ==== #!/bin/bash QF='[%{NAME}-%{VERSION}-%{RELEASE}:\t%{RECOMMENDS}\n]' pat="$1"; shift; test -z "$pat" && echo "USAGE: $0 'PATTERN' [options/args..]" >&2 rpm -qa --qf "$QF" "$@" | \ awk -vPAT="$pat" -F':' '$2 ~ PAT { print; }' ==== You could use '{print $1;}' in the awk to just get the package name and add a 'sort -u' at the end ... ;) HTH, -dnh -- "Wenn das Wörtchen 'wenn' nicht wär' , wär' die Platte jetzt nicht leer." -- ratti in suse-linux -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
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