[opensuse-factory] console low resolution
Hello, Please can any tell me the procedure to change the console resolution. My Problem is the graphic resolution in the console, I can't read this small letter. All my changes have no effect? I change grub (vga=0x314), disabled splash change all in /etc/sysconfig and make a new initrd? the result is a high resolution console? -- mit freundlichen Grüßen / best Regards, Günther J. Niederwimmer -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2010-07-03 08:57, Günther J. Niederwimmer wrote:
Hello,
Please can any tell me the procedure to change the console resolution.
My Problem is the graphic resolution in the console, I can't read this small letter.
All my changes have no effect?
I change grub (vga=0x314), disabled splash change all in /etc/sysconfig and make a new initrd?
the result is a high resolution console?
Put "vga=ask" and boot many times in text mode till you find the one you like. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.2 x86_64 "Emerald" GM (Elessar)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkwvChUACgkQU92UU+smfQUd0gCfU0Jr7AxhUO1zQQ7awNAl72Me ZJoAn1LOeBJNzvZdxL+Mb1aroNNdntTe =V4zD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Hello Am Samstag, 3. Juli 2010, 11:59:49 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
On 2010-07-03 08:57, Günther J. Niederwimmer wrote:
Please can any tell me the procedure to change the console resolution.
My Problem is the graphic resolution in the console, I can't read this small letter.
All my changes have no effect?
I change grub (vga=0x314), disabled splash change all in /etc/sysconfig and make a new initrd?
the result is a high resolution console?
Put "vga=ask" and boot many times in text mode till you find the one you like.
The only change is in the first screen :( dooing fastboot .... afterward in the booting window i have my high resolution :-((( why ? Bugzilla ? -- mit freundlichen Grüßen / best Regards, Günther J. Niederwimmer -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
* Günther J. Niederwimmer <gjn@gjn.priv.at> [2010-07-03 13:04]:
The only change is in the first screen :(
dooing fastboot ....
afterward in the booting window i have my high resolution :-(((
why ?
11.3 has KMS enabled by default so changing the VESA mode will not have any effect. You need to use a larger console font if the default one is too small. It can be changed with CONSOLE_FONT in /etc/sysconfig/console. Preinstalled fonts to choose from are in /usr/share/kbd/consolefonts/. -- Guido Berhoerster -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Am Samstag, 3. Juli 2010, 15:25:36 schrieb Guido Berhoerster:
* Günther J. Niederwimmer <gjn@gjn.priv.at> [2010-07-03 13:04]:
The only change is in the first screen :(
dooing fastboot ....
afterward in the booting window i have my high resolution :-(((
why ?
11.3 has KMS enabled by default so changing the VESA mode will not have any effect. You need to use a larger console font if the default one is too small. It can be changed with CONSOLE_FONT in /etc/sysconfig/console. Preinstalled fonts to choose from are in /usr/share/kbd/consolefonts/.
NO, I found it now, 'goooooglen' ;) a kernel Param ist the answer video=800x600 or eq. -- mit freundlichen Grüßen / best Regards, Günther J. Niederwimmer -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
* Günther J. Niederwimmer <gjn@gjn.priv.at> [2010-07-03 16:35]:
Am Samstag, 3. Juli 2010, 15:25:36 schrieb Guido Berhoerster:
* Günther J. Niederwimmer <gjn@gjn.priv.at> [2010-07-03 13:04]:
The only change is in the first screen :(
dooing fastboot ....
afterward in the booting window i have my high resolution :-(((
why ?
11.3 has KMS enabled by default so changing the VESA mode will not have any effect. You need to use a larger console font if the default one is too small. It can be changed with CONSOLE_FONT in /etc/sysconfig/console. Preinstalled fonts to choose from are in /usr/share/kbd/consolefonts/.
NO,
I found it now, 'goooooglen' ;)
a kernel Param ist the answer
video=800x600 or eq.
That will lower the KMS resolution from the native resolution to 800x600. If you have a LCD this will likely result in blurry fonts due to interpolation, the correct(TM) solution is to use a larger fontsize, just as in X. But do whatever pleases you. -- Guido Berhoerster -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2010-07-03 17:17, Guido Berhoerster wrote:
* Günther J. Niederwimmer <> [2010-07-03 16:35]:
NO,
I found it now, 'goooooglen' ;)
a kernel Param ist the answer
video=800x600 or eq.
That will lower the KMS resolution from the native resolution to 800x600. If you have a LCD this will likely result in blurry fonts due to interpolation, the correct(TM) solution is to use a larger fontsize, just as in X. But do whatever pleases you.
There most be a way to choose one of the possible resolutions the video card can give, be it more or less. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.2 x86_64 "Emerald" GM (Elessar)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkwvl5cACgkQU92UU+smfQU8MgCfTgQdg3BqMWZuPPnQ9dxxpD/o 3sQAn0IsjDhr9Mg3N1oEdzn7is26hXEb =LX2Q -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On 2010/07/03 17:17 (GMT+0200) Guido Berhoerster composed:
* Günther J. Niederwimmer composed:
Guido Berhoerster composed:
* Günther J. Niederwimmer composed:
The only change is in the first screen :(
dooing fastboot ....
afterward in the booting window i have my high resolution :-(((
why ?
11.3 has KMS enabled by default so changing the VESA mode will not have any effect. You need to use a larger console font if the default one is too small. It can be changed with CONSOLE_FONT in /etc/sysconfig/console. Preinstalled fonts to choose from are in /usr/share/kbd/consolefonts/.
NO,
I found it now, 'goooooglen' ;)
a kernel Param ist the answer
video=800x600 or eq.
That will lower the KMS resolution from the native resolution to 800x600. If you have a LCD this will likely result in blurry fonts due to interpolation, the correct(TM) solution is to use a larger fontsize, just as in X. But do whatever pleases you.
Of the specs for modern widescreen LCDs I've seen, most list 800x600 & 1024x768 as alternatives to the native (optimal) resolution. What's less likely are explicit alternate widescreen modes, such as 1600x900 on a native 2048x1152, or 1400x900 on a native 1680x1050. Additionally, someone whose challenging eyesight demands a low resolution mode like 800x600 isn't particularly likely to notice the degradation ("blurring") in comparison to the native mode. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Sat, 03 Jul 2010 17:22:20 -0400, Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> wrote:
11.3 has KMS enabled by default so changing the VESA mode will not have any effect. You need to use a larger console font if the default one is too small. It can be changed with CONSOLE_FONT in /etc/sysconfig/console. Preinstalled fonts to choose from are in /usr/share/kbd/consolefonts/.
NO,
I found it now, 'goooooglen' ;)
a kernel Param ist the answer
video=800x600 or eq.
That will lower the KMS resolution from the native resolution to 800x600. If you have a LCD this will likely result in blurry fonts due to interpolation, the correct(TM) solution is to use a larger fontsize, just as in X. But do whatever pleases you.
Of the specs for modern widescreen LCDs I've seen, most list 800x600 & 1024x768 as alternatives to the native (optimal) resolution. What's less likely are explicit alternate widescreen modes, such as 1600x900 on a native 2048x1152, or 1400x900 on a native 1680x1050.
Additionally, someone whose challenging eyesight demands a low resolution mode like 800x600 isn't particularly likely to notice the degradation ("blurring") in comparison to the native mode.
Sorry, I don't get what you're talking about. Please re-read what i wrote above, choosing an alternate font with a bigger size while keeping the native resolution gives you _both_ a sharp picture and larger letters. -- Guido Berhoerster -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Sat, 03 Jul 2010 17:22:20 -0400, Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> wrote:
11.3 has KMS enabled by default so changing the VESA mode will not have any effect. You need to use a larger console font if the default one is too small. It can be changed with CONSOLE_FONT in /etc/sysconfig/console. Preinstalled fonts to choose from are in /usr/share/kbd/consolefonts/.
NO,
I found it now, 'goooooglen' ;)
a kernel Param ist the answer
video=800x600 or eq.
That will lower the KMS resolution from the native resolution to 800x600. If you have a LCD this will likely result in blurry fonts due to interpolation, the correct(TM) solution is to use a larger fontsize, just as in X. But do whatever pleases you.
Of the specs for modern widescreen LCDs I've seen, most list 800x600 & 1024x768 as alternatives to the native (optimal) resolution. What's less likely are explicit alternate widescreen modes, such as 1600x900 on a native 2048x1152, or 1400x900 on a native 1680x1050.
Additionally, someone whose challenging eyesight demands a low resolution mode like 800x600 isn't particularly likely to notice the degradation ("blurring") in comparison to the native mode.
Sorry, I don't get what you're talking about. Please re-read what i wrote above, choosing an alternate font with a bigger size while keeping the native resolution gives you _both_ a sharp picture and larger letters. -- Guido Berhoerster -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On 2010/07/04 01:01 (GMT+0200) Guido Berhoerster composed:
Felix Miata wrote:
11.3 has KMS enabled by default so changing the VESA mode will not have any effect. You need to use a larger console font if the default one is too small. It can be changed with CONSOLE_FONT in /etc/sysconfig/console. Preinstalled fonts to choose from are in /usr/share/kbd/consolefonts/.
NO,
I found it now, 'goooooglen' ;)
a kernel Param ist the answer
video=800x600 or eq.
That will lower the KMS resolution from the native resolution to 800x600. If you have a LCD this will likely result in blurry fonts due to interpolation, the correct(TM) solution is to use a larger fontsize, just as in X. But do whatever pleases you.
Of the specs for modern widescreen LCDs I've seen, most list 800x600 & 1024x768 as alternatives to the native (optimal) resolution. What's less likely are explicit alternate widescreen modes, such as 1600x900 on a native 2048x1152, or 1400x900 on a native 1680x1050.
Additionally, someone whose challenging eyesight demands a low resolution mode like 800x600 isn't particularly likely to notice the degradation ("blurring") in comparison to the native mode.
Sorry, I don't get what you're talking about.
I'm talking about programmers who think tiny text is OK. For many, it's not. Low resolution modes make nice big legible characters that people with reading difficulty can handle, fuzzy or not.
Please re-read what i wrote above, choosing an alternate font with a bigger size while keeping the native resolution gives you _both_ a sharp picture and larger letters.
This is the usual problem with too small to start with - it makes difficult switching to large enough, unlike the opposite, which is easy due to high legibility to start with. Without KMS, in the grub menu one can on the fly using the nice legible big characters used in Grub's menus change or add a cmdline option to produce the desired bigger console text result. How does one do that when first one must get into /etc/sysconfig post-init? KMS is yet another usability regression. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Le 03/07/2010 23:22, Felix Miata a écrit :
Of the specs for modern widescreen LCDs I've seen, most list 800x600 & 1024x768 as alternatives to the native (optimal) resolution. What's less likely are explicit alternate widescreen modes, such as 1600x900 on a native 2048x1152, or 1400x900 on a native 1680x1050.
I have an HD LCD screen (1980x1024). When I bough it, I noticed My video card was not HD capable. So I used it some time with only 1600 pix wider. With such a good screen, the know LCD blurr was not visible at all. Probably no more a problem jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://www.facebook.com/pages/I-support-the-Linux-Documentation-Project/3720... http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-fan-page-of-Claire-Dodin/106485119372062?v... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Am 03.07.2010 17:17, schrieb Guido Berhoerster:
* Günther J. Niederwimmer <gjn@gjn.priv.at> [2010-07-03 16:35]:
Am Samstag, 3. Juli 2010, 15:25:36 schrieb Guido Berhoerster:
* Günther J. Niederwimmer <gjn@gjn.priv.at> [2010-07-03 13:04]:
The only change is in the first screen :(
dooing fastboot ....
afterward in the booting window i have my high resolution :-(((
why ?
11.3 has KMS enabled by default so changing the VESA mode will not have any effect. You need to use a larger console font if the default one is too small. It can be changed with CONSOLE_FONT in /etc/sysconfig/console. Preinstalled fonts to choose from are in /usr/share/kbd/consolefonts/.
NO,
I found it now, 'goooooglen' ;)
a kernel Param ist the answer
video=800x600 or eq.
That will lower the KMS resolution from the native resolution to 800x600. If you have a LCD this will likely result in blurry fonts due to interpolation, the correct(TM) solution is to use a larger fontsize, just as in X. But do whatever pleases you.
OK, thanks ! But I can't found larger fontsize then lat9w-16.psfu.gz Have any a link to found a larger fontsize or to understand the problematic ? This is very complicated ? my 'normal' resolution is 1680x1050, but to change setting found errors ... the resolution ist to small :(. -- Mit freundlichen Güssen / best Regards Günther J. Niederwimmer -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On 2010/07/04 12:05 (GMT+0200) Günther J. Niederwimmer composed:
I can't found larger fontsize then lat9w-16.psfu.gz
Have any a link to found a larger fontsize or to understand the problematic ?
This is very complicated ?
my 'normal' resolution is 1680x1050, but to change setting found errors ... the resolution ist to small :(.
Try on cmdline: nomodeset vga=788 Is that better? -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
* Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> [2010-07-04 13:28]:
Try on cmdline:
nomodeset vga=788
Is that better?
For the record, this is really *bad* advice. Firstly, the resolution can be changed more flexibly using the video= kernel parameter and secondly this is likely to cause trouble when using Xorg (i.e. falling back to the VESA driver) as KMS is becoming mandatory for more an more drivers. -- Guido Berhoerster -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On 2010/07/04 16:47 (GMT+0200) Guido Berhoerster composed:
Felix Miata composed:
Try on cmdline:
nomodeset vga=788
Is that better?
For the record, this is really *bad* advice. Firstly, the resolution can be changed more flexibly using the video= kernel parameter and secondly this is likely to cause trouble when using Xorg (i.e. falling back to the VESA driver) as KMS is becoming mandatory for more an more drivers.
Note the form of response: "try", "is that better?" Before writing that response, on X600 with RC1 desktop kernel I tried alternatively both video=800x600 and video=1600x1200, and got what appears to be standard text mode 80x25. Then I tried nomodeset vga=788 and nomodeset vga=0x31a, and got expected traditional framebuffer results on the ttys both ways. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Hello, Am Sonntag, 4. Juli 2010, 13:28:15 schrieb Felix Miata:
On 2010/07/04 12:05 (GMT+0200) Günther J. Niederwimmer composed:
I can't found larger fontsize then lat9w-16.psfu.gz
Have any a link to found a larger fontsize or to understand the problematic ?
This is very complicated ?
my 'normal' resolution is 1680x1050, but to change setting found errors ... the resolution ist to small :(.
Try on cmdline:
nomodeset vga=788
When I setup the startscreen (Kernel Parameter) on bootscreen with 'nomedeset' vga=xxx (788,314...) I can't boot? The system tell me I have no drives and boot only in the system mode? Or meen you a other place?
Is that better?
NO ;) -- mit freundlichen Grüßen / best Regards, Günther J. Niederwimmer -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On 2010/07/04 23:18 (GMT+0200) Günther J. Niederwimmer composed:
Felix Miata composed:
Try on cmdline:
nomodeset vga=788
When I setup the startscreen (Kernel Parameter) on bootscreen with 'nomedeset' vga=xxx (788,314...) I can't boot?
How did you spell it? 314 is incomplete, needs 0x314 to work. 788 works here on radeon X600. What video chip do you have? Maybe there is a bug in the driver for yours? Maybe you need a driver-specific modeset disable like radeon.modeset=0.
The system tell me I have no drives and boot only in the system mode?
Something bad must be wrong. Does your Grub's menu.lst have a failsafe stanza that also does not work except with too small console fonts? Can you boot OK to runlevel 1 or 2 instead of 3 or 5?
Or meen you a other place? ... kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda1 showopts noresume splash=verbose 3 nomodeset vga=788 ...
Is that better?
NO ;)
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* "Günther J. Niederwimmer" <gjn@gjn.priv.at> [2010-07-04 12:06]:
OK, thanks !
But I can't found larger fontsize then lat9w-16.psfu.gz
Have any a link to found a larger fontsize or to understand the problematic ?
This is very complicated ?
No, that's not complicated at all. First, you could install the terminus-font package and try the larger sizes (it offers 12x24, 10x20, 14x28 and 16x32 sizes which sould be much bigger). Just set CONSOLE_FONT in /etc/sysconfig/console to ter-1<size>n.psfu where <size> is 20, 24, 28, or 32 depending on your preference. If you don't like it you can use pretty much any fixed-width font. If it isn't already in PSF format you need to convert it to BDF using a font editor and then you can use the bdf2psf script(*) to convert it to PSF, gzip it, and put it in /usr/share/kbd/consolefonts.
my 'normal' resolution is 1680x1050, but to change setting found errors ... the resolution ist to small :(.
Yes, depending on the size of the screen an 8 pixel font in this resolution can be quite small. * bdf2psf: http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/c/console-setup/console-setup_1.54... -- Guido Berhoerster -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On 2010/07/04 16:41 (GMT+0200) Guido Berhoerster composed:
Günther J. Niederwimmer composed:
This is very complicated ?
No, that's not complicated at all. First, you could install the terminus-font package and try the larger sizes (it offers 12x24, 10x20, 14x28 and 16x32 sizes which sould be much bigger). Just set CONSOLE_FONT in /etc/sysconfig/console to ter-1<size>n.psfu where <size> is 20, 24, 28, or 32 depending on your preference.
If you don't like it you can use pretty much any fixed-width font. If it isn't already in PSF format you need to convert it to BDF using a font editor and then you can use the bdf2psf script(*) to convert it to PSF, gzip it, and put it in /usr/share/kbd/consolefonts.
On comparing the CONSOLE_FONT="lat9w-16.psfu" entry in /etc/sysconfig/console to the contents of /usr/share/kbd/consolefonts it's entirely clear which to choose in order to get a legibly large enough console font, while the sheer number of entries there has to make one wonder why you would suggest yet more just to find one legibly large enough. What does 9w-16 mean? Where's the doc that addresses this subject? Is this font choice in any way related to http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=584493 ? -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
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