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Alin M Elena

27 Jul 2012 27 Jul '12

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Hi Werner, as a workaround I used the version of pgf from their website and it worked. http://sourceforge.net/projects/pgf/develop another issue I hit is with bibtex8... the texlive-bibtex8-bin package shall install texlive-bibtex8 too, otherwise no working bibtex8. Alin -- Without Questions there are no Answers! ______________________________________________________________________ Alin Marin ELENA Advanced Molecular Simulation Research Laboratory School of Physics, University College Dublin ---- Ardionsamblú Móilíneach Saotharlann Taighde Scoil na Fisice, An Coláiste Ollscoile, Baile Átha Cliath ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://alin.elenaworld.net ______________________________________________________________________ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

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Dr. Werner Fink

30 Jul 30 Jul

08:39

New subject: [opensuse-factory] texlive 2012 and pgf

On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 11:45:50PM +0100, Alin M Elena wrote:

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Hi Werner,

as a workaround I used the version of pgf from their website and it worked. http://sourceforge.net/projects/pgf/develop

another issue I hit is with bibtex8... the texlive-bibtex8-bin package shall install texlive-bibtex8 too, otherwise no working bibtex8.

The trick is to install texlive-bibtex8, then texlive-bibtex8-bin will be installed too. This is the natural dependency. Werner -- "Having a smoking section in a restaurant is like having a peeing section in a swimming pool." -- Edward Burr -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Dominique Leuenberger a.k.a DimStar

09:03

New subject: [opensuse-factory] texlive 2012 and pgf

Quoting "Dr. Werner Fink" :

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On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 11:45:50PM +0100, Alin M Elena wrote: The trick is to install texlive-bibtex8, then texlive-bibtex8-bin will be installed too. This is the natural dependency.

I haven't followed all of the conversation, but the most obvious question: What's the rational of splitting up in two packages when package a requires b to work and b requires a to work? Dominique -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Dr. Werner Fink

10:02

New subject: [opensuse-factory] texlive 2012 and pgf

On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 05:03:13AM -0400, Dominique Leuenberger a.k.a DimStar wrote:

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Quoting "Dr. Werner Fink" :

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On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 11:45:50PM +0100, Alin M Elena wrote: The trick is to install texlive-bibtex8, then texlive-bibtex8-bin will be installed too. This is the natural dependency.

I haven't followed all of the conversation, but the most obvious question: What's the rational of splitting up in two packages when package a requires b to work and b requires a to work?

arch versus noarch? upstream package scheme? In fact TeXLive 2012 for openSUSE follows the upstream package layout. And even before the binary packages had been split from the noarch packages as the later one are only repacked and not compiled. Werner -- "Having a smoking section in a restaurant is like having a peeing section in a swimming pool." -- Edward Burr -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Dominique Leuenberger a.k.a DimStar

10:13

New subject: [opensuse-factory] texlive 2012 and pgf

Quoting "Dr. Werner Fink" :

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On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 05:03:13AM -0400, Dominique Leuenberger a.k.a DimStar wrote:

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Quoting "Dr. Werner Fink" :

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On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 11:45:50PM +0100, Alin M Elena wrote: The trick is to install texlive-bibtex8, then texlive-bibtex8-bin will be installed too. This is the natural dependency.

I haven't followed all of the conversation, but the most obvious question: What's the rational of splitting up in two packages when package a requires b to work and b requires a to work?

arch versus noarch? upstream package scheme?

sure :) valid reasons (I said I did not follow it all). arch vs non-arch though I would only consider if the space actually makes sense (are we talking MBytes or Bytes) Upsteram scheme i s obviously broken if they depend on each other circular... luckily not for building...

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In fact TeXLive 2012 for openSUSE follows the upstream package layout. And even before the binary packages had been split from the noarch packages as the later one are only repacked and not compiled.

Following upstream layouts is a good thing! No objections there. Many advantages clearly outweigh some minor hickups here and there. And as the split is rather new, the best is to just let you know of the hickups and not to try to 'workaround them' in other spec files.. you're doing a good job on that and as we all see, you're well responsive on the issues reported! That's what is often lacking, but not in this case! Keep it up :) Best regards, Dominique -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Dr. Werner Fink

12:08

New subject: [opensuse-factory] texlive 2012 and pgf

On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 06:13:30AM -0400, Dominique Leuenberger a.k.a DimStar wrote:

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Quoting "Dr. Werner Fink" :

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On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 05:03:13AM -0400, Dominique Leuenberger a.k.a DimStar wrote:

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Quoting "Dr. Werner Fink" :

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On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 11:45:50PM +0100, Alin M Elena wrote: The trick is to install texlive-bibtex8, then texlive-bibtex8-bin will be installed too. This is the natural dependency.

I haven't followed all of the conversation, but the most obvious question: What's the rational of splitting up in two packages when package a requires b to work and b requires a to work?

arch versus noarch? upstream package scheme?

sure :) valid reasons (I said I did not follow it all). arch vs non-arch though I would only consider if the space actually makes sense (are we talking MBytes or Bytes)

GBytes

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Upsteram scheme i s obviously broken if they depend on each other circular... luckily not for building...

It does build not only for Debian and Fedora but now also for openSUSE

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In fact TeXLive 2012 for openSUSE follows the upstream package layout. And even before the binary packages had been split from the noarch packages as the later one are only repacked and not compiled.

Following upstream layouts is a good thing! No objections there. Many advantages clearly outweigh some minor hickups here and there. And as the split is rather new, the best is to just let you know of the hickups and not to try to 'workaround them' in other spec files..

you're doing a good job on that and as we all see, you're well responsive on the issues reported! That's what is often lacking, but not in this case!

The question remains, what can be fixed in pgf. One fix I've added for pgf to make it work with plain TeX. Werner -- "Having a smoking section in a restaurant is like having a peeing section in a swimming pool." -- Edward Burr -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Alin M Elena

15:29

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The question remains, what can be fixed in pgf. One fix I've added for pgf to make it work with plain TeX.

sorry Werner thought I replied to this... I fixed pgf for me by using their cvs version... I know that may not be the best solution... as it taints the 2012 package... but at least works... Other solution would be to check the thing they changed in cvs to fix it... I think was some time in april. regards, Alin -- Without Questions there are no Answers! ______________________________________________________________________ Alin Marin ELENA Advanced Molecular Simulation Research Laboratory School of Physics, University College Dublin ---- Ardionsamblú Móilíneach Saotharlann Taighde Scoil na Fisice, An Coláiste Ollscoile, Baile Átha Cliath ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://alin.elenaworld.net ______________________________________________________________________ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

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