[opensuse-factory] and again resetting dbus drops network, re: New Tumbleweed snapshot 20160404 released!
* Ludwig Nussel <ludwig.nussel@suse.de> [04-05-16 06:41]:
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Again debus-daemon is replaced and must be restarted resulting in dropped internet connection (wicked). And remote administration requires a minimum of rebooting subject machine or physical access :( -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 11:35 AM, Patrick Shanahan <paka@opensuse.org> wrote:
That's not how it works.. dbus needs to be restarted only when it gets updated and not when a third party component is. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Le mardi 05 avril 2016 à 12:34 -0300, Cristian Rodríguez a écrit :
And even in that case, dbus should never be restarted, most applications don't support it (which is why dbus package doesn't restart system bus..). -- Frederic Crozat Enterprise Desktop Release Manager SUSE -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
* Frederic Crozat <fcrozat@suse.com> [04-05-16 11:45]:
then what is one to do with: ~ # zypper ps -ss The following running processes use deleted files: PID | PPID | UID | User | Command | Service -----+------+-----+------------+-------------+------------- 1084 | 1 | 499 | messagebus | dbus-daemon | dbus I understand this to indicate: systemctl restart dbus is one to just ignore this? -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Le mardi 05 avril 2016 à 12:31 -0400, Patrick Shanahan a écrit :
YES ! Never restart dbus.. If you see stuff failing apart after restarting dbus, this is "expected".. -- Frederic Crozat Enterprise Desktop Release Manager SUSE -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
* Frederic Crozat <fcrozat@suse.com> [04-05-16 12:38]:
I would guess then that this is widely known in more regular circles than just dev's??? because I have not ever noticed any conversation here about that. Maybe zypper should ignore that or advise not to restart or .... -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
05.04.2016 19:31, Patrick Shanahan пишет:
No. You need to reboot your system. This is how user space D-Bus daemon works. If you cannot reboot your system you either do not update D-Bus until you can or you live with this message. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 11:35 AM, Patrick Shanahan <paka@opensuse.org> wrote:
That's not how it works.. dbus needs to be restarted only when it gets updated and not when a third party component is. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Le mardi 05 avril 2016 à 12:34 -0300, Cristian Rodríguez a écrit :
And even in that case, dbus should never be restarted, most applications don't support it (which is why dbus package doesn't restart system bus..). -- Frederic Crozat Enterprise Desktop Release Manager SUSE -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
* Frederic Crozat <fcrozat@suse.com> [04-05-16 11:45]:
then what is one to do with: ~ # zypper ps -ss The following running processes use deleted files: PID | PPID | UID | User | Command | Service -----+------+-----+------------+-------------+------------- 1084 | 1 | 499 | messagebus | dbus-daemon | dbus I understand this to indicate: systemctl restart dbus is one to just ignore this? -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Le mardi 05 avril 2016 à 12:31 -0400, Patrick Shanahan a écrit :
YES ! Never restart dbus.. If you see stuff failing apart after restarting dbus, this is "expected".. -- Frederic Crozat Enterprise Desktop Release Manager SUSE -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
* Frederic Crozat <fcrozat@suse.com> [04-05-16 12:38]:
I would guess then that this is widely known in more regular circles than just dev's??? because I have not ever noticed any conversation here about that. Maybe zypper should ignore that or advise not to restart or .... -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
05.04.2016 19:31, Patrick Shanahan пишет:
No. You need to reboot your system. This is how user space D-Bus daemon works. If you cannot reboot your system you either do not update D-Bus until you can or you live with this message. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
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