[opensuse-factory] Questions about crda,iw and wireless-regdb packages
When/where the regulatory domain is intended to be setup ? If I set up it manually with "iw reg set" this setting is lost after a reboot. So it seems that a startup script needs to set the regulatory domain after every reboot, if you want full WLAN function after a reboot. Why is the regulatory.bin file installed in /usr/lib and iw in/usr/sbin, whereas the other parts of the framework are living in / ? If you want to mount /usr over a WLAN connection, this will restrict you to use channels 1-11 for that WLAN . -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 20 February 2009 18:29:41 Markus Koßmann wrote:
When/where the regulatory domain is intended to be setup ? If I set up it manually with "iw reg set" this setting is lost after a reboot. So it seems that a startup script needs to set the regulatory domain after every reboot, if you want full WLAN function after a reboot.
Why is the regulatory.bin file installed in /usr/lib and iw in/usr/sbin, whereas the other parts of the framework are living in / ? If you want to mount /usr over a WLAN connection, this will restrict you to use channels 1-11 for that WLAN .
One other question: Are these packages installed by default if needed? I run zypper dup last week and those packages were not installed at all, it seems there are some missing dependencies... Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform / openSUSE, aj@suse.de SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
Am Montag, 23. Februar 2009 schrieb Andreas Jaeger:
On Friday 20 February 2009 18:29:41 Markus Koßmann wrote:
When/where the regulatory domain is intended to be setup ?
No, there is no such place yet.
If I set up it manually with "iw reg set" this setting is lost after a reboot. So it seems that a startup script needs to set the regulatory domain after every reboot, if you want full WLAN function after a reboot. Why is the regulatory.bin file installed in /usr/lib and iw in/usr/sbin, whereas the other parts of the framework are living in / ? If you want to mount /usr over a WLAN connection, this will restrict you to use channels 1-11 for that WLAN . One other question: Are these packages installed by default if needed?
No, not yet. I've packaged them for factory only one or two weeks ago.
I run zypper dup last week and those packages were not installed at all, it seems there are some missing dependencies...
I wouldn't say missing dependencies. CRDA + wireless-regdb are needed by the kernel but I don't think we want the kernel to depend on a user space program. Furthermore the wireless satck will still be functional without CRDA. Maybe all three packages should be installed as part of the base system? Helmut -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Am Montag, 23. Februar 2009 schrieb Helmut Schaa:
I wouldn't say missing dependencies. CRDA + wireless-regdb are needed by the kernel but I don't think we want the kernel to depend on a user space program.
Couldn't that be handled like the firmware packages? Install only, if there is a driver loaded that needs it.
Furthermore the wireless satck will still be functional without CRDA.
IMHO that remaining functionality is too limited. Think about a WLAN , where the router is intentionally configured not to use channel 1-11,maybe because that range is overloaded with other WLANs. After the Upgrade to factory/11.2 you won't be able to connect to that WLAN any more without setting the regulatory domain. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Hi,
Furthermore the wireless satck will still be functional without CRDA.
IMHO that remaining functionality is too limited. Think about a WLAN , where the router is intentionally configured not to use channel 1-11,maybe because that range is overloaded with other WLANs. After the Upgrade to factory/11.2 you won't be able to connect to that WLAN any more without setting the regulatory domain. There were allready problems with the regulatory domain before. I was not able to connect with ath5k to a network on channel 13 ...
See: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=392853 regards Felix Möller -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Am Montag, 23. Februar 2009 schrieb Felix Möller:
Hi,
Furthermore the wireless satck will still be functional without CRDA.
IMHO that remaining functionality is too limited. Think about a WLAN , where the router is intentionally configured not to use channel 1-11,maybe because that range is overloaded with other WLANs. After the Upgrade to factory/11.2 you won't be able to connect to that WLAN any more without setting the regulatory domain.
There were allready problems with the regulatory domain before. I was not able to connect with ath5k to a network on channel 13 ...
Right. Using channels 12 and 13 (and 14 in Japan) should be possible with factory now (if crda, wireless-regdb and iw is installed and the regulatory domain is set correctly). Helmut -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Am Montag, 23. Februar 2009 schrieb Markus Koßmann:
Am Montag, 23. Februar 2009 schrieb Helmut Schaa:
I wouldn't say missing dependencies. CRDA + wireless-regdb are needed by the kernel but I don't think we want the kernel to depend on a user space program.
Couldn't that be handled like the firmware packages?
Not really, we would have to add all modaliases of all wireless modules that need crda to the package. I guess we simply want all three packages installed by default. Helmut -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 24 February 2009 08:10:13 Helmut Schaa wrote:
Am Montag, 23. Februar 2009 schrieb Markus Koßmann:
Am Montag, 23. Februar 2009 schrieb Helmut Schaa:
I wouldn't say missing dependencies. CRDA + wireless-regdb are needed by the kernel but I don't think we want the kernel to depend on a user space program.
Couldn't that be handled like the firmware packages?
Not really, we would have to add all modaliases of all wireless modules that need crda to the package.
I guess we simply want all three packages installed by default.
What about making them dependend by wireless-tools? Please discuss with Coolo what's best here. He can also make the changes to install them by default. Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform / openSUSE, aj@suse.de SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
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