[opensuse-factory] Orphaned packages
Hello all I installed openSUSE-13.2-DVD-Build0011-i586.iso tonight on a old HP laptop and things appear fine except for the fact that there appears to be a lot of orphaned packages... Can anyone else confirm this? # uname -a Linux nc6120.13.2 3.11.6-4-desktop #1 SMP PREEMPT Wed Oct 30 18:04:56 UTC 2013 (e6d4a27) i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux # cat /proc/version Linux version 3.11.10-21-desktop (geeko@buildhost) (gcc version 4.8.1 20130909 [gcc-4_8-branch revision 202388] (SUSE Linux) ) #1 SMP PREEMPT Mon Jul 21 15:28:46 UTC 2014 (9a9565d) Checking for orphaned packages... nc6120: # zypper packages --orphaned | wc -l 1476 The same version of the x_86-64 DVD installation (i.e. openSUSE-13.2-DVD-Build0011-x86_64.iso) had only 9 orphaned packages (different computer but same conditions). Regards James BTW, many thanks for maintaining an i586 version ! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Am 23.09.2014 um 22:38 schrieb James PEARSON:
You have orphaned packages on a fresh installation? Greetings, Stephan -- Ma muaß weiterkämpfen, kämpfen bis zum Umfalln, a wenn die ganze Welt an Arsch offen hat, oder grad deswegn. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Excuse me stupid, but what exactly constitutes an "orphaned" package? A package that is not from any configured repository or something? Cheers, MH -- Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android-Mobiltelefon mit K-9 Mail gesendet. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Wed, 24 Sep 2014 09:00, Mathias Homann <Mathias.Homann@...> wrote:
Mostly correct. Include the version and repo status and you have it. Full sentence: zypper marks a package as "orphaned" when it (based on name and version string) is not found in any "active" repositories. Does this give you the needed info? - Yamaban -- "... and please, would have those with the knowlegde have the grace to correct me about my postings, I'm moderator, not GOD" -- on a early BB. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 24 September 2014 09.00:18 Mathias Homann wrote:
Yes if you install from the dvd, then put the source as disabled then the package is orphaned cause it doesn't know its parent. But if you activate the online repository, it should find then its familly again :-) I would qualify the non presence of online repo as a bug if the installer missed them. -- Bruno Friedmann Ioda-Net Sàrl www.ioda-net.ch openSUSE Member & Board, fsfe fellowship GPG KEY : D5C9B751C4653227 irc: tigerfoot -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Hello Thank you for the comebacks.
Yes if you install from the dvd, then put the source as disabled then the package is orphaned cause it doesn't know its parent. But if you activate the online repository, it should find then its familly again :-)
OK I just did another very basic fresh install using openSUSE-13.2-DVD-Build0011-x86_64.iso # Checking the directories zypper installed on first boot of a fresh install linux-zawd:~ # zypper lr -up # | Alias | Name | Enabled | Refresh | Priority | URI --+---------------------------+------------------------------------+---------+---------+----------+----------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 | openSUSE-13.1-1.10 | openSUSE-13.1-1.10 | No | Yes | 99 | hd:///?device=/dev/disk/by-id/usb-_USB_07B3100119639DD7-0:0 2 | repo-debug | openSUSE-13.1-Debug | No | Yes | 99 | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/distribution/13.1/repo/oss/ 3 | repo-debug-update | openSUSE-13.1-Update-Debug | No | Yes | 99 | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/update/13.1/ 4 | repo-debug-update-non-oss | openSUSE-13.1-Update-Debug-Non-Oss | No | Yes | 99 | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/update/13.1-non-oss/ 5 | repo-non-oss | openSUSE-13.1-Non-Oss | Yes | Yes | 99 | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/13.1/repo/non-oss/ 6 | repo-oss | openSUSE-13.1-Oss | Yes | Yes | 99 | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/13.1/repo/oss/ 7 | repo-source | openSUSE-13.1-Source | No | Yes | 99 | http://download.opensuse.org/source/distribution/13.1/repo/oss/ 8 | repo-update | openSUSE-13.1-Update | Yes | Yes | 99 | http://download.opensuse.org/update/13.1/ 9 | repo-update-non-oss | openSUSE-13.1-Update-Non-Oss | Yes | Yes | 99 | http://download.opensuse.org/update/13.1-non-oss/ # I removed all the directories because they were for the 13.1 and checked the number of orphaned packages :( zypper packages --orphaned | wc -l 1515 # I then added the factory directories so I could check if the orphaned packages would / could left home OK :) # | Alias | Name | Enabled | Refresh | Priority | URI --+-----------------+-------------------------------+---------+---------+----------+--------------------------------------------------- 1 | repo-non-oss | Main Repository (NON-OSS) | Yes | Yes | 99 | http://download.opensuse.org/factory/repo/non-oss/ 2 | repo-oss | Main Repository (OSS) | Yes | Yes | 99 | http://download.opensuse.org/factory/repo/oss/ 3 | repo-source-oss | Main Repository (Sources OSS) | Yes | Yes | 99 | http://download.opensuse.org/factory/repo/oss/ # New test results zypper packages --orphaned | wc -l 76 Regards James -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Wed, 24 Sep 2014 20:14, James PEARSON <pearson45j@...> wrote: [snip]
Word of the wise: Do not forget to re-add the "Update" repo for OSS and Non-Free URLs http://download.opensuse.org/update/13.2-non-oss/ http://download.opensuse.org/update/13.2/ ATM (pre RC) they should be empty, but if you want to use the system longterm -- not clever to leave them out. - Yamaban. -- Hey, who let the zombies into the government? -- Either they'll starve, or politicts will get even more stupid! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Am 24.09.2014 20:14, schrieb James PEARSON:
Can you please check /etc/os-release? This clearly doesn't look like a 13.2 installation :) Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Am 23.09.2014 um 22:38 schrieb James PEARSON:
You have orphaned packages on a fresh installation? Greetings, Stephan -- Ma muaß weiterkämpfen, kämpfen bis zum Umfalln, a wenn die ganze Welt an Arsch offen hat, oder grad deswegn. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Excuse me stupid, but what exactly constitutes an "orphaned" package? A package that is not from any configured repository or something? Cheers, MH -- Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android-Mobiltelefon mit K-9 Mail gesendet. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Wed, 24 Sep 2014 09:00, Mathias Homann <Mathias.Homann@...> wrote:
Mostly correct. Include the version and repo status and you have it. Full sentence: zypper marks a package as "orphaned" when it (based on name and version string) is not found in any "active" repositories. Does this give you the needed info? - Yamaban -- "... and please, would have those with the knowlegde have the grace to correct me about my postings, I'm moderator, not GOD" -- on a early BB. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 24 September 2014 09.00:18 Mathias Homann wrote:
Yes if you install from the dvd, then put the source as disabled then the package is orphaned cause it doesn't know its parent. But if you activate the online repository, it should find then its familly again :-) I would qualify the non presence of online repo as a bug if the installer missed them. -- Bruno Friedmann Ioda-Net Sàrl www.ioda-net.ch openSUSE Member & Board, fsfe fellowship GPG KEY : D5C9B751C4653227 irc: tigerfoot -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Hello Thank you for the comebacks.
Yes if you install from the dvd, then put the source as disabled then the package is orphaned cause it doesn't know its parent. But if you activate the online repository, it should find then its familly again :-)
OK I just did another very basic fresh install using openSUSE-13.2-DVD-Build0011-x86_64.iso # Checking the directories zypper installed on first boot of a fresh install linux-zawd:~ # zypper lr -up # | Alias | Name | Enabled | Refresh | Priority | URI --+---------------------------+------------------------------------+---------+---------+----------+----------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 | openSUSE-13.1-1.10 | openSUSE-13.1-1.10 | No | Yes | 99 | hd:///?device=/dev/disk/by-id/usb-_USB_07B3100119639DD7-0:0 2 | repo-debug | openSUSE-13.1-Debug | No | Yes | 99 | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/distribution/13.1/repo/oss/ 3 | repo-debug-update | openSUSE-13.1-Update-Debug | No | Yes | 99 | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/update/13.1/ 4 | repo-debug-update-non-oss | openSUSE-13.1-Update-Debug-Non-Oss | No | Yes | 99 | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/update/13.1-non-oss/ 5 | repo-non-oss | openSUSE-13.1-Non-Oss | Yes | Yes | 99 | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/13.1/repo/non-oss/ 6 | repo-oss | openSUSE-13.1-Oss | Yes | Yes | 99 | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/13.1/repo/oss/ 7 | repo-source | openSUSE-13.1-Source | No | Yes | 99 | http://download.opensuse.org/source/distribution/13.1/repo/oss/ 8 | repo-update | openSUSE-13.1-Update | Yes | Yes | 99 | http://download.opensuse.org/update/13.1/ 9 | repo-update-non-oss | openSUSE-13.1-Update-Non-Oss | Yes | Yes | 99 | http://download.opensuse.org/update/13.1-non-oss/ # I removed all the directories because they were for the 13.1 and checked the number of orphaned packages :( zypper packages --orphaned | wc -l 1515 # I then added the factory directories so I could check if the orphaned packages would / could left home OK :) # | Alias | Name | Enabled | Refresh | Priority | URI --+-----------------+-------------------------------+---------+---------+----------+--------------------------------------------------- 1 | repo-non-oss | Main Repository (NON-OSS) | Yes | Yes | 99 | http://download.opensuse.org/factory/repo/non-oss/ 2 | repo-oss | Main Repository (OSS) | Yes | Yes | 99 | http://download.opensuse.org/factory/repo/oss/ 3 | repo-source-oss | Main Repository (Sources OSS) | Yes | Yes | 99 | http://download.opensuse.org/factory/repo/oss/ # New test results zypper packages --orphaned | wc -l 76 Regards James -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Wed, 24 Sep 2014 20:14, James PEARSON <pearson45j@...> wrote: [snip]
Word of the wise: Do not forget to re-add the "Update" repo for OSS and Non-Free URLs http://download.opensuse.org/update/13.2-non-oss/ http://download.opensuse.org/update/13.2/ ATM (pre RC) they should be empty, but if you want to use the system longterm -- not clever to leave them out. - Yamaban. -- Hey, who let the zombies into the government? -- Either they'll starve, or politicts will get even more stupid! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Am 24.09.2014 20:14, schrieb James PEARSON:
Can you please check /etc/os-release? This clearly doesn't look like a 13.2 installation :) Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
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