[opensuse-factory] NVidia-problems with after snapshot 20180524

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Jogchum Reitsma

28 May 2018 28 May '18

10:18

Hi, After installing snapshot 20180524, with kernel 4.16.10-1-default, I can only boot successfully in recovery-mode. When trying to boot kernel 4.16.10-1-default in standard mode, I get no graphical display, only flashing text, and it is impossible to login. I have encountered this many times lately (and read the postings on this list about the root cause), but I could always repair it by installing the latest proprietary driver from NVidia, now NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-396.24.run. This time installation of that driver seems to go fine, but after rebooting the result is the same. In recovery mode, as would be expected, the display settings are not optimal, and I can't use the second display. Maybe related to this issue: a long time already I get warnings on 'Mesa-dri-nouveau': ==================================================================== WARNING: Nouveau DRI/3D driver selected. This driver is considered experimental and is known to have issues with applications that use certain 3D acceleration features of modern NVIDIA hardware. Symptoms include application crashes or lockups & crashes of your system's graphical environment. Older Hardware and less demanding applications may work just fine and do benefit from the Hardware acceleration features this driver offers over software emulation. Use of this driver is especially not recommended for use with the KDE Desktop Environment or Qt-based Applications. The hardware vendor potentially offers alternative drivers. Please click "Accept" if you accept the risks that may come with the installation of this driver. Choose "Cancel" to prevent installation of the driver and use software emulation instead. ===================================================================== But I see no way to circumvent this, aside from accepting the agreement: if I disagree, the whole installation process aborts, instead of simply skipping this driver (which I think I don't need, since I'm on NVidia-drivers). In the past I tried to uninstall that driver, but that gave so many dependency issues I gave up. PS1: I didn't install the latest TW-snapshot, because of the perl-issue, reported here already, but I'm not sure if the upgrade to kernel 4.16.11 would help. PS2: Motherboard is GA-MA770-DS3rev2.0, CPU AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 955, GPU GeForce GTX 1050 Ti. lsmod reports the nvidia-driver active. What can I do to get a normal and dual display back? regards, -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

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Andrei Dziahel

28 May 28 May

10:58

https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:NVIDIA_drivers#openSUSE_Tumbleweed works flawlessly for me (dual-output setup as well). Have you tried these? On Mon, May 28, 2018 at 1:18 PM Jogchum Reitsma wrote:

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Hi,

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After installing snapshot 20180524, with kernel 4.16.10-1-default, I can only boot successfully in recovery-mode. When trying to boot kernel 4.16.10-1-default in standard mode, I get no graphical display, only flashing text, and it is impossible to login.

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I have encountered this many times lately (and read the postings on this list about the root cause), but I could always repair it by installing the latest proprietary driver from NVidia, now NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-396.24.run. This time installation of that driver seems to go fine, but after rebooting the result is the same.

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In recovery mode, as would be expected, the display settings are not optimal, and I can't use the second display.

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Maybe related to this issue: a long time already I get warnings on 'Mesa-dri-nouveau':

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==================================================================== WARNING: Nouveau DRI/3D driver selected.

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This driver is considered experimental and is known to have issues with applications that use certain 3D acceleration features of modern NVIDIA hardware.

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Symptoms include application crashes or lockups & crashes of your system's graphical environment. Older Hardware and less demanding applications may work just fine and do benefit from the Hardware acceleration features this driver offers over software emulation.

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Use of this driver is especially not recommended for use with the KDE Desktop Environment or Qt-based Applications.

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The hardware vendor potentially offers alternative drivers.

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Please click "Accept" if you accept the risks that may come with the installation of this driver. Choose "Cancel" to prevent installation of the driver and use software emulation instead.

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=====================================================================

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But I see no way to circumvent this, aside from accepting the agreement: if I disagree, the whole installation process aborts, instead of simply skipping this driver (which I think I don't need, since I'm on NVidia-drivers).

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In the past I tried to uninstall that driver, but that gave so many dependency issues I gave up.

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PS1: I didn't install the latest TW-snapshot, because of the perl-issue, reported here already, but I'm not sure if the upgrade to kernel 4.16.11 would help.

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PS2: Motherboard is GA-MA770-DS3rev2.0, CPU AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 955, GPU GeForce GTX 1050 Ti. lsmod reports the nvidia-driver active.

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What can I do to get a normal and dual display back?

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regards,

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Jogchum Reitsma

12:28

Thanks! Well, it is a little better in the sense that at a regular start the flashing display is gone, and I can boot in graphical mode. But the settings are still wrong (same as when starting in recovery mode): no second monitor, resolution too low. nvdock, which should start the nvidia settings module, doesn't start. From the terminal, it says nvdock nvidia settings was not found. I wouldn't know how to install that settings module; it is indeed not in the KDE menu's, and I can't find it in software management. So I can't change the settings. Any further help appreciated! regards, Jogchum Op 28-05-18 om 12:58 schreef Andrei Dziahel:

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https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:NVIDIA_drivers#openSUSE_Tumbleweed works flawlessly for me (dual-output setup as well). Have you tried these? On Mon, May 28, 2018 at 1:18 PM Jogchum Reitsma wrote:

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Roman Bysh

21:45

On 28/05/18 08:28 AM, Jogchum Reitsma wrote:

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Thanks!

Well, it is a little better in the sense that at a regular start the flashing display is gone, and I can boot in graphical mode. But the settings are still wrong (same as when starting in recovery mode): no second monitor, resolution too low.

nvdock, which should start the nvidia settings module, doesn't start. From the terminal, it says

nvdock nvidia settings was not found.

I wouldn't know how to install that settings module; it is indeed not in the KDE menu's, and I can't find it in software management.

So I can't change the settings.

Any further help appreciated!

regards, Jogchum

Op 28-05-18 om 12:58 schreef Andrei Dziahel:

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https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:NVIDIA_drivers#openSUSE_Tumbleweed works flawlessly for me (dual-output setup as well). Have you tried these? On Mon, May 28, 2018 at 1:18 PM Jogchum Reitsma wrote:

Did you try mkinitrd && reboot? -- Cheers! Roman -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Basil Chupin

29 May 29 May

01:24

On 28/05/18 20:18, Jogchum Reitsma wrote:

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Hi,

After installing snapshot 20180524, with kernel 4.16.10-1-default, I can only boot successfully in recovery-mode. When trying to boot kernel 4.16.10-1-default in standard mode, I get no graphical display, only flashing text, and it is impossible to login.

I have encountered this many times lately (and read the postings on this list about the root cause), but I could always repair it by installing the latest proprietary driver from NVidia, now NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-396.24.run.

#396.24 driver is a BETA. The latest 'official' driver is 390.59. On one of my computers the beta 396.24 gave me problems (the installation spat the dummy because the card either required a legacy driver OR a driver of the 390.x variety -- never had this problem until last week); but 390.59 installed without any problems. BTW, you do run 'mkinitrd' after compiling the driver? And then reboot? My command line for this is (abbreviated): sh ./<nvidia driver> -a ;; mkinitrd ;; reboot That part about the Mesa driver... It's truly a Catch 22 situation, isn't it? You can say NO ... but you really cannot say NO :-). Whoever thought that one up must have been smoking some potent wacky tobaccy that day :-D . <pruned> BC -- "..The times have been That, when the brains were out, the man would die,.." "Macbeth", Shakespeare -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Patrick Shanahan

01:58

* Basil Chupin [05-28-18 21:27]:

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On 28/05/18 20:18, Jogchum Reitsma wrote:

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Hi,

After installing snapshot 20180524, with kernel 4.16.10-1-default, I can only boot successfully in recovery-mode. When trying to boot kernel 4.16.10-1-default in standard mode, I get no graphical display, only flashing text, and it is impossible to login.

I have encountered this many times lately (and read the postings on this list about the root cause), but I could always repair it by installing the latest proprietary driver from NVidia, now NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-396.24.run.

#396.24 driver is a BETA. The latest 'official' driver is 390.59.

On one of my computers the beta 396.24 gave me problems (the installation spat the dummy because the card either required a legacy driver OR a driver of the 390.x variety -- never had this problem until last week); but 390.59 installed without any problems.

BTW, you do run 'mkinitrd' after compiling the driver? And then reboot?

My command line for this is (abbreviated): sh ./<nvidia driver> -a ;; mkinitrd ;; reboot

and I have never ran mkinitrd after installing the NV...run driver. and do not reboot unless a new kernel, only drop to multi-user (init 3) level, install the nv driver and return to graphical (init 5). -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Jogchum Reitsma

14:43

Op 29-05-18 om 03:58 schreef Patrick Shanahan:

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* Basil Chupin [05-28-18 21:27]:

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On 28/05/18 20:18, Jogchum Reitsma wrote:

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Hi,

After installing snapshot 20180524, with kernel 4.16.10-1-default, I can only boot successfully in recovery-mode. When trying to boot kernel 4.16.10-1-default in standard mode, I get no graphical display, only flashing text, and it is impossible to login.

I have encountered this many times lately (and read the postings on this list about the root cause), but I could always repair it by installing the latest proprietary driver from NVidia, now NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-396.24.run. #396.24 driver is a BETA. The latest 'official' driver is 390.59.

On one of my computers the beta 396.24 gave me problems (the installation spat the dummy because the card either required a legacy driver OR a driver of the 390.x variety -- never had this problem until last week); but 390.59 installed without any problems.

BTW, you do run 'mkinitrd' after compiling the driver? And then reboot?

My command line for this is (abbreviated): sh ./<nvidia driver> -a ;; mkinitrd ;; reboot and I have never ran mkinitrd after installing the NV...run driver. and do not reboot unless a new kernel, only drop to multi-user (init 3) level, install the nv driver and return to graphical (init 5). Yes, that's what I do mostly, and up till now it worked. But I did a reboot, and that didn't help.

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Jogchum Reitsma

14:47

Op 29-05-18 om 03:24 schreef Basil Chupin:
> On 28/05/18 20:18, Jogchum Reitsma wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>> After installing snapshot 20180524, with kernel 4.16.10-1-default, I 
>> can only boot successfully in recovery-mode. When trying to boot 
>> kernel 4.16.10-1-default in standard mode, I get no graphical 
>> display, only  flashing text, and it is impossible to login.
>>
>> I have encountered this many times lately (and read the postings on 
>> this list about the root cause), but I could always repair it by 
>> installing the latest proprietary driver from NVidia, now 
>> NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-396.24.run.
>
> #396.24 driver is a BETA. The latest 'official' driver is 390.59.
>
>   On one of my computers the beta 396.24 gave me problems (the 
> installation spat the dummy because the card either required a legacy 
> driver OR a driver of the 390.x variety -- never had this problem 
> until last week); but 390.59 installed without any problems.
>
> BTW, you do run 'mkinitrd' after compiling the driver? And then reboot?
I'm running it right now, see what happens. But isn't that part of the 
install af a new kernel? In that case, it has been done already.
>
> My command line for this is (abbreviated): sh ./ -a ;; 
> mkinitrd ;; reboot
>
> That part about the Mesa driver... It's truly a Catch 22 situation, 
> isn't it? You can say NO ... but you really cannot say NO :-).   
> Whoever thought that one up must have been smoking some potent wacky 
> tobaccy that day :-D .
Probably from Dutch origin, we are good in also that part of agriculture 
- heavy stuff :-D!
>
> 
>
> BC
>

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Jogchum Reitsma

15:48

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On 28/05/18 20:18, Jogchum Reitsma wrote:

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Hi,

After installing snapshot 20180524, with kernel 4.16.10-1-default, I can only boot successfully in recovery-mode. When trying to boot kernel 4.16.10-1-default in standard mode, I get no graphical display, only flashing text, and it is impossible to login.

I have encountered this many times lately (and read the postings on this list about the root cause), but I could always repair it by installing the latest proprietary driver from NVidia, now NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-396.24.run.

#396.24 driver is a BETA. The latest 'official' driver is 390.59. This is the driver that I have installed now, with the effect: no

Op 29-05-18 om 03:24 schreef Basil Chupin: problems anymore with flashing display, but wrong resolution, and no second monitor.

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On one of my computers the beta 396.24 gave me problems (the installation spat the dummy because the card either required a legacy driver OR a driver of the 390.x variety -- never had this problem until last week); but 390.59 installed without any problems.

BTW, you do run 'mkinitrd' after compiling the driver? And then reboot?

Did not help.... But thanks for thinking with me!

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My command line for this is (abbreviated): sh ./<nvidia driver> -a ;; mkinitrd ;; reboot

That part about the Mesa driver... It's truly a Catch 22 situation, isn't it? You can say NO ... but you really cannot say NO :-). Whoever thought that one up must have been smoking some potent wacky tobaccy that day :-D .

<pruned>

BC

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Liam Proven

09:20

On 28/05/18 12:18, Jogchum Reitsma wrote:

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After installing snapshot 20180524, with kernel 4.16.10-1-default, I can only boot successfully in recovery-mode. When trying to boot kernel 4.16.10-1-default in standard mode, I get no graphical display, only flashing text, and it is impossible to login.

I have encountered this many times lately (and read the postings on this list about the root cause), but I could always repair it by installing the latest proprietary driver from NVidia, now NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-396.24.run. This time installation of that driver seems to go fine, but after rebooting the result is the same.

In recovery mode, as would be expected, the display settings are not optimal, and I can't use the second display.

Maybe related to this issue: a long time already I get warnings on 'Mesa-dri-nouveau':

Do you have the firmware package installed? This sounds very similar to what happened to me on my last Tumbleweed install. For some reason, I did not have the ``kernel-firmware'' package installed and I could not get graphics working, no matter what driver fiddling I did. On a laptop, ditto firmware. But once I installed it, everything worked as expected. -- Liam Proven - Technical Writer, SUSE Linux s.r.o. Corso II, Křižíkova 148/34, 186-00 Praha 8 - Karlín, Czechia Email: lproven@suse.com - Office telephone: +420 284 241 084 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Jogchum Reitsma

14:41

Hi Liam, Thanks for the hint, but yes, I have the the firmware installed. Op 29-05-18 om 11:20 schreef Liam Proven:

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On 28/05/18 12:18, Jogchum Reitsma wrote:

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After installing snapshot 20180524, with kernel 4.16.10-1-default, I can only boot successfully in recovery-mode. When trying to boot kernel 4.16.10-1-default in standard mode, I get no graphical display, only flashing text, and it is impossible to login.

I have encountered this many times lately (and read the postings on this list about the root cause), but I could always repair it by installing the latest proprietary driver from NVidia, now NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-396.24.run. This time installation of that driver seems to go fine, but after rebooting the result is the same.

In recovery mode, as would be expected, the display settings are not optimal, and I can't use the second display.

Maybe related to this issue: a long time already I get warnings on 'Mesa-dri-nouveau': Do you have the firmware package installed? This sounds very similar to what happened to me on my last Tumbleweed install. For some reason, I did not have the ``kernel-firmware'' package installed and I could not get graphics working, no matter what driver fiddling I did.

On a laptop, ditto firmware.

But once I installed it, everything worked as expected.

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