[opensuse-factory] Going underground, my packages are still maintained
Hi all, For quite sometime I've been erasing information about me in several resources, the request to terminate my membership has been heard and I'm no longer a member (a nice protest form against the anti-democratic ego driven concepts of a few). Pascal also kindly removed my blog feeds from the planet by my request. I've un-subscribed all mailing lists except: - opensuse-factory; - opensuse-gnome; All my packages/OBS repos are still going to be maintained, but a huge cleanup is going to happen soon (during the weekend). On the other hand, during the last weeks I've been aqquiring a lot of know-how on Fedora packaging and about Koji, which I now know very well. This to say that soon there will be an increase on contributions from me on Fedora side, mainly for EPEL (Extra Packages for Enterprise Linux), I do have no intention on maintaining Fedora packages besides EPEL. I will also keep some time for giving some love to GNOME:Cinnamon and will later pick up my work on GNOME:Ayatana. So in other words, my demise in openSUSE is 99% complete and people won't have to read/ignore more stupid emails from me, no more nagging, no more nothing. Hopefully I'll see better days in the future... And I get to be around with Sirko :) A very warm and felt 'Thank You' to all who have helped me, mainly to Vincent, Dominique, Marcus (darix), Bjorn, Stephen and many others... -- Nelson Marques // I've stopped trying to understand sandwiches with a third piece of bread in the middle... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 11:07, Nelson Marques <nmo.marques@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
For quite sometime I've been erasing information about me in several resources, the request to terminate my membership has been heard and I'm no longer a member (a nice protest form against the anti-democratic ego driven concepts of a few). Pascal also kindly removed my blog feeds from the planet by my request.
Honestly.. you are the one worked up about it.. not anyone else. :-P
All my packages/OBS repos are still going to be maintained, but a huge cleanup is going to happen soon (during the weekend). On the other hand, during the last weeks I've been aqquiring a lot of know-how on Fedora packaging and about Koji, which I now know very well. This to say that soon there will be an increase on contributions from me on Fedora side, mainly for EPEL (Extra Packages for Enterprise Linux), I do have no intention on maintaining Fedora packages besides EPEL. I will also keep some time for giving some love to GNOME:Cinnamon and will later pick up my work on GNOME:Ayatana.
So in other words, my demise in openSUSE is 99% complete and people won't have to read/ignore more stupid emails from me, no more nagging, no more nothing. Hopefully I'll see better days in the future... And I get to be around with Sirko :)
A very warm and felt 'Thank You' to all who have helped me, mainly to Vincent, Dominique, Marcus (darix), Bjorn, Stephen and many others...
It's a shame if openSUSE's Cinnamon efforts suffer as a result. I don't use Gnome/Cinnamon, but I consider your efforts there a strength for openSUSE. Oh well.. c'est la vie. C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
We will miss your emails, dear friend :) Good luck, soldier! On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 8:07 AM, Nelson Marques <nmo.marques@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
For quite sometime I've been erasing information about me in several resources, the request to terminate my membership has been heard and I'm no longer a member (a nice protest form against the anti-democratic ego driven concepts of a few). Pascal also kindly removed my blog feeds from the planet by my request.
I've un-subscribed all mailing lists except: - opensuse-factory; - opensuse-gnome;
All my packages/OBS repos are still going to be maintained, but a huge cleanup is going to happen soon (during the weekend). On the other hand, during the last weeks I've been aqquiring a lot of know-how on Fedora packaging and about Koji, which I now know very well. This to say that soon there will be an increase on contributions from me on Fedora side, mainly for EPEL (Extra Packages for Enterprise Linux), I do have no intention on maintaining Fedora packages besides EPEL. I will also keep some time for giving some love to GNOME:Cinnamon and will later pick up my work on GNOME:Ayatana.
So in other words, my demise in openSUSE is 99% complete and people won't have to read/ignore more stupid emails from me, no more nagging, no more nothing. Hopefully I'll see better days in the future... And I get to be around with Sirko :)
A very warm and felt 'Thank You' to all who have helped me, mainly to Vincent, Dominique, Marcus (darix), Bjorn, Stephen and many others...
-- Nelson Marques // I've stopped trying to understand sandwiches with a third piece of bread in the middle... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
-- Raul Libório http://rauhmaru.blogspot.com/ rauhmarutsªhotmailºcom openSUSE Member | Linux User #4444581 "There are only 10 types of people in the world - Those who understand binary, and those who don't." -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On February 24, 2012 09:01:20 AM Raul Libório wrote:
We will miss your emails, dear friend :) Good luck, soldier!
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 8:07 AM, Nelson Marques <nmo.marques@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
For quite sometime I've been erasing information about me in several resources, the request to terminate my membership has been heard and I'm no longer a member (a nice protest form against the anti-democratic ego driven concepts of a few). Pascal also kindly removed my blog feeds from the planet by my request.
I've un-subscribed all mailing lists except: - opensuse-factory; - opensuse-gnome;
All my packages/OBS repos are still going to be maintained, but a huge cleanup is going to happen soon (during the weekend). On the other hand, during the last weeks I've been aqquiring a lot of know-how on Fedora packaging and about Koji, which I now know very well. This to say that soon there will be an increase on contributions from me on Fedora side, mainly for EPEL (Extra Packages for Enterprise Linux), I do have no intention on maintaining Fedora packages besides EPEL. I will also keep some time for giving some love to GNOME:Cinnamon and will later pick up my work on GNOME:Ayatana.
So in other words, my demise in openSUSE is 99% complete and people won't have to read/ignore more stupid emails from me, no more nagging, no more nothing. Hopefully I'll see better days in the future... And I get to be around with Sirko :)
A very warm and felt 'Thank You' to all who have helped me, mainly to Vincent, Dominique, Marcus (darix), Bjorn, Stephen and many others...
-- Nelson Marques // I've stopped trying to understand sandwiches with a third piece of bread in the middle... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org Nelson,
So sorry to hear you've terminated your membership. I'm going to miss reading your blog. Just gimme a list of those people that made you leave. I'm glad to hear that you're staying on factory. Good luck ;-) Cheers! Roman -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Friday 24 Feb 2012 10:07:11 Nelson Marques wrote:
Hi all,
For quite sometime I've been erasing information about me in several resources, the request to terminate my membership has been heard and I'm no longer a member (a nice protest form against the anti-democratic ego driven concepts of a few). Pascal also kindly removed my blog feeds from the planet by my request.
I've un-subscribed all mailing lists except: - opensuse-factory; - opensuse-gnome;
All my packages/OBS repos are still going to be maintained, but a huge cleanup is going to happen soon (during the weekend). On the other hand, during the last weeks I've been aqquiring a lot of know-how on Fedora packaging and about Koji, which I now know very well. This to say that soon there will be an increase on contributions from me on Fedora side, mainly for EPEL (Extra Packages for Enterprise Linux), I do have no intention on maintaining Fedora packages besides EPEL. I will also keep some time for giving some love to GNOME:Cinnamon and will later pick up my work on GNOME:Ayatana.
So in other words, my demise in openSUSE is 99% complete and people won't have to read/ignore more stupid emails from me, no more nagging, no more nothing. Hopefully I'll see better days in the future... And I get to be around with Sirko :)
A very warm and felt 'Thank You' to all who have helped me, mainly to Vincent, Dominique, Marcus (darix), Bjorn, Stephen and many others...
I'm confused slightly because for a long time many of your ml posts have been pro fedora and anti suse. It's been quite shameful considering you have tried hard to claim the moral high ground. On the whole, this news is no revelation, can you not just bugger off without trying to be a drama queen? I don't think anyone can question your commitment to open source software, but I wish you would stop trying to jam your square head through the many round holes open projects have. Sincerely, A round head. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 25/02/12 11:01, Graham Anderson wrote:
On Friday 24 Feb 2012 10:07:11 Nelson Marques wrote:
Hi all,
For quite sometime I've been erasing information about me in several resources, the request to terminate my membership has been heard and I'm no longer a member (a nice protest form against the anti-democratic ego driven concepts of a few). Pascal also kindly removed my blog feeds from the planet by my request.
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I'm confused slightly because for a long time many of your ml posts have been pro fedora and anti suse. It's been quite shameful considering you have tried hard to claim the moral high ground. On the whole, this news is no revelation, can you not just bugger off without trying to be a drama queen?
I don't think anyone can question your commitment to open source software, but I wish you would stop trying to jam your square head through the many round holes open projects have.
Sincerely, A round head.
No, much like a dickhead really. BC -- I'd rather live one more day as a wolf than an entire life as a lamb. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On the whole, this news is no revelation, can you not just bugger off without trying to be a drama queen?
I don't think anyone can question your commitment to open source software, but I wish you would stop trying to jam your square head through the many round holes open projects have.
Sincerely, A round head.
This part of the comment wasn't needed at all. When somebody leaves, we should always keep the door open for reconsiderations. Some discussions are just not that relevant anymore after a year or two. -- Ralf Lang Linux Consultant / Developer Tel.: +49-170-6381563 Mail: lang@b1-systems.de B1 Systems GmbH Osterfeldstraße 7 / 85088 Vohburg / http://www.b1-systems.de GF: Ralph Dehner / Unternehmenssitz: Vohburg / AG: Ingolstadt,HRB 3537 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Saturday 25 Feb 2012 07:27:15 Ralf Lang wrote:
This part of the comment wasn't needed at all. When somebody leaves, we should always keep the door open for reconsiderations.
On the contrary I feel it was entirely needed. His attempted vilification of openSUSE, it's process and members on the mailing lists have been un-checked and un-abated. It seems he's taken every oppertunity to bash openSUSE in some way while glorifiying another disto as his panacea. If he had been constructively critical it would be an entirely different thing, but I don't think he has. I think he has been negative to a fault and on many occassions I see his anti openSUSE rants as deliberate attempts to be devisive. I welcome open debate but It sickens me when people try to use these mailing lists as their personal soap box to air their grievances. Graham -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
He is not on this list. Speak where he can hear. On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 8:07 AM, Nelson Marques <nmo.marques@gmail.com> wrote:
I've un-subscribed all mailing lists except: - opensuse-factory; - opensuse-gnome;
On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 7:12 AM, Graham Anderson <graham.anderson@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday 25 Feb 2012 07:27:15 Ralf Lang wrote:
This part of the comment wasn't needed at all. When somebody leaves, we should always keep the door open for reconsiderations.
On the contrary I feel it was entirely needed. His attempted vilification of openSUSE, it's process and members on the mailing lists have been un-checked and un-abated. It seems he's taken every oppertunity to bash openSUSE in some way while glorifiying another disto as his panacea.
If he had been constructively critical it would be an entirely different thing, but I don't think he has. I think he has been negative to a fault and on many occassions I see his anti openSUSE rants as deliberate attempts to be devisive.
I welcome open debate but It sickens me when people try to use these mailing lists as their personal soap box to air their grievances.
Graham -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
-- Raul Libório http://rauhmaru.blogspot.com/ rauhmarutsªhotmailºcom openSUSE Member | Linux User #4444581 "There are only 10 types of people in the world - Those who understand binary, and those who don't." -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Raul, Mr. Graham is entitled to his opinion and for sure I do respect it. If he wants something else, he can always step forth and claim it, but I think he also knows that it takes a man to kill a monster :) Regards, Your cuttie monster from the other side of the Atlantic :) 2012/2/25 Raul Libório <rauhmaru@gmail.com>:
He is not on this list. Speak where he can hear.
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 8:07 AM, Nelson Marques <nmo.marques@gmail.com> wrote:
I've un-subscribed all mailing lists except: - opensuse-factory; - opensuse-gnome;
On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 7:12 AM, Graham Anderson <graham.anderson@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday 25 Feb 2012 07:27:15 Ralf Lang wrote:
This part of the comment wasn't needed at all. When somebody leaves, we should always keep the door open for reconsiderations.
On the contrary I feel it was entirely needed. His attempted vilification of openSUSE, it's process and members on the mailing lists have been un-checked and un-abated. It seems he's taken every oppertunity to bash openSUSE in some way while glorifiying another disto as his panacea.
If he had been constructively critical it would be an entirely different thing, but I don't think he has. I think he has been negative to a fault and on many occassions I see his anti openSUSE rants as deliberate attempts to be devisive.
I welcome open debate but It sickens me when people try to use these mailing lists as their personal soap box to air their grievances.
Graham -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
-- Raul Libório
http://rauhmaru.blogspot.com/ rauhmarutsªhotmailºcom openSUSE Member | Linux User #4444581
"There are only 10 types of people in the world - Those who understand binary, and those who don't."
-- Nelson Marques // I've stopped trying to understand sandwiches with a third piece of bread in the middle... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
2012/2/25 Graham Anderson <graham.anderson@gmail.com>:
On Saturday 25 Feb 2012 07:27:15 Ralf Lang wrote:
This part of the comment wasn't needed at all. When somebody leaves, we should always keep the door open for reconsiderations.
On the contrary I feel it was entirely needed. His attempted vilification of openSUSE, it's process and members on the mailing lists have been un-checked and un-abated. It seems he's taken every oppertunity to bash openSUSE in some way while glorifiying another disto as his panacea.
Dear Mr. Graham, You are entitled to your opinion... but maybe you should focus on the bugzilla, patches, backports so that anti-openSUSE people like myself don't have to work on them... Even a KDE hatter like myself ends up pushing KDE updates to fix broken components (ex: oxygen-gtk) that the KDE fanboys like yourself fail to correct. So you should actually be pleased that you have a few updates available made by a anti-openSUSE user who uses Red Hat Enterprise Linux, and who is a Red Hat paying customer. Ain't it stupid that I pay Red Hat to have my system updated and in top shape... and that I spend my time updating a system that I don't use and that YOU use? Shouldn't be you to update your own system? It's actually your loss, not mine... squeel and wine as much as you want ;)
If he had been constructively critical it would be an entirely different
If your emails on this thread are proof of 'constructive criticism' then carry on soldier... You are honoring openSUSE a lot :)
thing, but I don't think he has. I think he has been negative to a fault and on many occassions I see his anti openSUSE rants as deliberate attempts to be devisive.
Pretty sure you showed us all what being constructive and positive is all about... I hope everyone will rally in support to you and that you make a lot of friends (watch your back though, because if it feels itchy, it's most likely a dagger from a friend).
I welcome open debate but It sickens me when people try to use these mailing lists as their personal soap box to air their grievances.
Goodbye Mr Graham and good luck. I'm sorry I can't say you are part of my acquaintances and you will never be while you behave as a pikey. Greetings from the european mainland, NM
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On Saturday 25 Feb 2012 19:59:38 Nelson Marques wrote:
2012/2/25 Graham Anderson <graham.anderson@gmail.com>:
On Saturday 25 Feb 2012 07:27:15 Ralf Lang wrote:
This part of the comment wasn't needed at all. When somebody leaves, we should always keep the door open for reconsiderations.
On the contrary I feel it was entirely needed. His attempted vilification of openSUSE, it's process and members on the mailing lists have been un-checked and un-abated. It seems he's taken every oppertunity to bash openSUSE in some way while glorifiying another disto as his panacea.
Dear Mr. Graham,
You are entitled to your opinion... but maybe you should focus on the bugzilla, patches, backports so that anti-openSUSE people like myself don't have to work on them... Even a KDE hatter like myself ends up pushing KDE updates to fix broken components (ex: oxygen-gtk) that the KDE fanboys like yourself fail to correct.
So you should actually be pleased that you have a few updates available made by a anti-openSUSE user who uses Red Hat Enterprise Linux, and who is a Red Hat paying customer.
Ain't it stupid that I pay Red Hat to have my system updated and in top shape... and that I spend my time updating a system that I don't use and that YOU use? Shouldn't be you to update your own system?
It's actually your loss, not mine... squeel and wine as much as you want ;)
If he had been constructively critical it would be an entirely different
If your emails on this thread are proof of 'constructive criticism' then carry on soldier... You are honoring openSUSE a lot :)
thing, but I don't think he has. I think he has been negative to a fault and on many occassions I see his anti openSUSE rants as deliberate attempts to be devisive.
Pretty sure you showed us all what being constructive and positive is all about... I hope everyone will rally in support to you and that you make a lot of friends (watch your back though, because if it feels itchy, it's most likely a dagger from a friend).
I welcome open debate but It sickens me when people try to use these mailing lists as their personal soap box to air their grievances.
Goodbye Mr Graham and good luck. I'm sorry I can't say you are part of my acquaintances and you will never be while you behave as a pikey.
Greetings from the european mainland,
NM
And this is precisely why you were never a suitable candidate for the board. Good luck with Red Hat/Fedora, I'm sure they will be happy to have you. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Le 25/02/2012 22:07, Graham Anderson a écrit :
And this is precisely why you w(...)
please could you trim most of the unusefull text in any of your answers? I try to read your posts, but scanning the whole thing each time is too much thanks jdd -- http://www.dodin.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
You aint missing much ;) 2012/2/25 jdd <jdd@dodin.org>:
Le 25/02/2012 22:07, Graham Anderson a écrit :
And this is precisely why you w(...)
please could you trim most of the unusefull text in any of your answers?
I try to read your posts, but scanning the whole thing each time is too much
thanks jdd
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On Saturday 25 Feb 2012 22:28:39 jdd wrote:
Le 25/02/2012 22:07, Graham Anderson a écrit :
And this is precisely why you w(...)
please could you trim most of the unusefull text in any of your answers?
I try to read your posts, but scanning the whole thing each time is too much
I'm sorry if it was hard to read. Sometimes email clients don't destinguish well well between the quoted email text and the new message text. I felt it appropriate to reply while including the whole of the previous two messages in the thread, for the benefit of anyone who might come across the message on a search engine. I wanted my statement to be absolutely clear as to which text it was referring too. Félicitations pour le rugby ce weekend, l'equipe Francaise continuer d'etre un peux plus fort que les Ecossaise. Cheers the noo, Graham -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 25/02/12 20:12, Graham Anderson wrote:
On Saturday 25 Feb 2012 07:27:15 Ralf Lang wrote:
This part of the comment wasn't needed at all. When somebody leaves, we should always keep the door open for reconsiderations. On the contrary I feel it was entirely needed. His attempted vilification of openSUSE, it's process and members on the mailing lists have been un-checked and un-abated. It seems he's taken every oppertunity to bash openSUSE in some way while glorifiying another disto as his panacea.
If he had been constructively critical it would be an entirely different thing, but I don't think he has. I think he has been negative to a fault and on many occassions I see his anti openSUSE rants as deliberate attempts to be devisive.
I welcome open debate but It sickens me when people try to use these mailing lists as their personal soap box to air their grievances.
Graham
Oh gosh, oh gee. Look who's calling the kettle black! "It sickens me when people try to use these mailing lists as their personal soap box to air their grievances." Surely even *you* can see how hypocritical you are in what you just spewed out? But, then, I really don't think that you will ever be capable of the power of apprehension. BC -- I'd rather live one more day as a wolf than an entire life as a lamb. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Sunday 26 Feb 2012 17:02:43 Basil Chupin wrote:
Oh gosh, oh gee. Look who's calling the kettle black!
"It sickens me when people try to use these mailing lists as their personal soap box to air their grievances."
Surely even you can see how hypocritical you are in what you just spewed out?
But, then, I really don't think that you will ever be capable of the power of apprehension.
Nothing of this directly addresses my points. Until you can contribute in an informed or objective manner, I can't help but ignore you. Cheers the noo, Graham -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
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