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Ciro Iriarte

14 Feb 2006 14 Feb '06

04:33

Anybody knows if Nagios 2.0 will be available with the 10.1 release? Thanks in advanced Ciro

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houghi

14 Feb 14 Feb

05:32

New subject: [opensuse-factory] Nagios 2.0

On Tue, Feb 14, 2006 at 12:33:45AM -0400, Ciro Iriarte wrote:

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Anybody knows if Nagios 2.0 will be available with the 10.1 release?

Just look if it is available on the Beta version. That could already be an indicator. houghi -- "I only touch base with reality on an as-needed basis!" -- Royal Floyd Mengot (Klaus)

Wolfgang Rosenauer

05:57

New subject: [opensuse-factory] Nagios 2.0

On 2006-02-14 at 06:32:21 +0100, houghi wrote (shortened):

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On Tue, Feb 14, 2006 at 12:33:45AM -0400, Ciro Iriarte wrote:

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Anybody knows if Nagios 2.0 will be available with the 10.1 release?

Just look if it is available on the Beta version. That could already be an indicator.

It's not in 10.1. It was just released last week which was far too late for 10.1. CU, Wolfgang -- SUSE LINUX GmbH -o) Tel: +49-(0)911-740 53 0 Maxfeldstr. 5 /\\ Fax: +49-(0)911-740 53 679 90409 Nuernberg, Germany _\_v simply change to www.suse.com

Ciro Iriarte

07:10

New subject: [opensuse-factory] Nagios 2.0

2006/2/14, Wolfgang Rosenauer :

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On 2006-02-14 at 06:32:21 +0100, houghi wrote (shortened):

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On Tue, Feb 14, 2006 at 12:33:45AM -0400, Ciro Iriarte wrote:

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Anybody knows if Nagios 2.0 will be available with the 10.1 release?

Just look if it is available on the Beta version. That could already be an indicator.

It's not in 10.1. It was just released last week which was far too late for 10.1.

CU,

Wolfgang

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Is it going to be included later?, i could install 10.1 and get the Beta packages from 10.2 in that case.... Ciro

Wolfgang Rosenauer

08:28

New subject: [opensuse-factory] Nagios 2.0

On 2006-02-14 at 03:10:14 -0400, Ciro Iriarte wrote (shortened):

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It's not in 10.1. It was just released last week which was far too late for 10.1.

Is it going to be included later?, i could install 10.1 and get the Beta packages from 10.2 in that case....

It will be included in future versions, yes. But you can't expect to get 10.2 packages working on 10.1. This *could* work. But anyway I hope that with the buildservice it will be possible to build for 10.1 with newer sources? CU, Wolfgang -- SUSE LINUX GmbH -o) Tel: +49-(0)911-740 53 0 Maxfeldstr. 5 /\\ Fax: +49-(0)911-740 53 679 90409 Nuernberg, Germany _\_v simply change to www.suse.com

Ciro Iriarte

08:34

New subject: [opensuse-factory] Nagios 2.0

2006/2/14, Wolfgang Rosenauer :

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On 2006-02-14 at 03:10:14 -0400, Ciro Iriarte wrote (shortened):

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It's not in 10.1. It was just released last week which was far too late for 10.1.

Is it going to be included later?, i could install 10.1 and get the Beta packages from 10.2 in that case....

It will be included in future versions, yes. But you can't expect to get 10.2 packages working on 10.1. This *could* work. But anyway I hope that with the buildservice it will be possible to build for 10.1 with newer sources?

CU,

Wolfgang

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I have used 9.3 packages with 9.2 previously (mysql for example), i guess it should work.... (not too different gcc versions..., 3.3 --> 4.0 for example) Ciro

houghi

11:41

New subject: [opensuse-factory] Nagios 2.0

On Tue, Feb 14, 2006 at 04:34:27AM -0400, Ciro Iriarte wrote:

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It will be included in future versions, yes. But you can't expect to get 10.2 packages working on 10.1. This *could* work. But anyway I hope that with the buildservice it will be possible to build for 10.1 with newer sources?

I have used 9.3 packages with 9.2 previously (mysql for example), i guess it should work.... (not too different gcc versions..., 3.3 --> 4.0 for example)

No, I believe the correct way to say it is that it COULD work, not that it SHOULD work. I also have used Mandriva RPMs on my SUSE system without any problem. houghi -- Law of Probable Dispersal: Whatever it is that hits the fan will not be evenly distributed.

Christoph Thiel

11:54

New subject: [opensuse-factory] Nagios 2.0

On Tue, 14 Feb 2006, Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:

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On 2006-02-14 at 03:10:14 -0400, Ciro Iriarte wrote (shortened):

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It's not in 10.1. It was just released last week which was far too late for 10.1.

Is it going to be included later?, i could install 10.1 and get the Beta packages from 10.2 in that case....

It will be included in future versions, yes. But you can't expect to get 10.2 packages working on 10.1. This *could* work. But anyway I hope that with the buildservice it will be possible to build for 10.1 with newer sources?

Exactly. Regards Christoph

Hans-Peter Jansen

14:05

New subject: [opensuse-factory] Nagios 2.0

Am Dienstag, 14. Februar 2006 09:28 schrieb Wolfgang Rosenauer:

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On 2006-02-14 at 03:10:14 -0400, Ciro Iriarte wrote (shortened):

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It's not in 10.1. It was just released last week which was far too late for 10.1.

Is it going to be included later?, i could install 10.1 and get the Beta packages from 10.2 in that case....

It will be included in future versions, yes. But you can't expect to get 10.2 packages working on 10.1. This *could* work. But anyway I hope that with the buildservice it will be possible to build for 10.1 with newer sources?

But one can always rebuild the src.rpm to be sure... Until the buildservice is available, it's the best strategy anyway! Pete

Ciro Iriarte

15 Feb 15 Feb

01:51

New subject: [opensuse-factory] Nagios 2.0

2006/2/14, Hans-Peter Jansen :

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Am Dienstag, 14. Februar 2006 09:28 schrieb Wolfgang Rosenauer:

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On 2006-02-14 at 03:10:14 -0400, Ciro Iriarte wrote (shortened):

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It's not in 10.1. It was just released last week which was far too late for 10.1.

Is it going to be included later?, i could install 10.1 and get the Beta packages from 10.2 in that case....

It will be included in future versions, yes. But you can't expect to get 10.2 packages working on 10.1. This *could* work. But anyway I hope that with the buildservice it will be possible to build for 10.1 with newer sources?

But one can always rebuild the src.rpm to be sure... Until the buildservice is available, it's the best strategy anyway!

Pete

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Ook, it "could" work... I'll wait until de rpm, or src.rpm are available... Ciro

Hans-Peter Jansen

21:44

New subject: [opensuse-factory] Nagios 2.0

Am Mittwoch, 15. Februar 2006 02:51 schrieb Ciro Iriarte:

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2006/2/14, Hans-Peter Jansen :

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But one can always rebuild the src.rpm to be sure... Until the buildservice is available, it's the best strategy anyway!

Ook, it "could" work... I'll wait until de rpm, or src.rpm are available...

Just take the latest (nearest src.rpm), you can get your hands on, install it, download the tar ball into /usr/src/packages/SOURCES, adjust the spec in /usr/src/packages/SPECS to your needs and build it with "rpmbuild -ba --target i686-suse-linux specfile". The first time, it will take some time, but with every self build package, it will go faster - down to a few minutes (including addition to a local repo..). Pete

Ciro Iriarte

16 Feb 16 Feb

11:01

Are you talking about the official tar from nagios.sourceforge.net?. It's an option, but that way i'm losing the init scripts for example... Am i right?. Ciro 2006/2/15, Hans-Peter Jansen :

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Am Mittwoch, 15. Februar 2006 02:51 schrieb Ciro Iriarte:

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2006/2/14, Hans-Peter Jansen :

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But one can always rebuild the src.rpm to be sure... Until the buildservice is available, it's the best strategy anyway!

Ook, it "could" work... I'll wait until de rpm, or src.rpm are available...

Just take the latest (nearest src.rpm), you can get your hands on, install it, download the tar ball into /usr/src/packages/SOURCES, adjust the spec in /usr/src/packages/SPECS to your needs and build it with "rpmbuild -ba --target i686-suse-linux specfile". The first time, it will take some time, but with every self build package, it will go faster - down to a few minutes (including addition to a local repo..).

Pete

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Joerg Mayer

11:37

New subject: [opensuse-factory] Re: Nagios 2.0

On Thu, Feb 16, 2006 at 11:01:29AM +0000, Ciro Iriarte wrote:

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Are you talking about the official tar from nagios.sourceforge.net?. It's an option, but that way i'm losing the init scripts for example... Am i right?.

There's one thing about this discussion/lamenting that I don't understand: nagios 2 has been production quality for a while and has been at least as good as 1.x for more than 2 Suse releases. The major step from 2beta to 2release was that documentation was "complete". We've been using 2.x from alpha stage onwards with networks of more than 2000 manged components. So, what I just don't get: Why does the release of 2.0 make a switch from 1.x to 2.0 so urgent now? ciao Joerg -- Joerg Mayer We are stuck with technology when what we really want is just stuff that works. Some say that should read Microsoft instead of technology.

Ciro Iriarte

18 Feb 18 Feb

01:32

New subject: [opensuse-factory] Re: Nagios 2.0

2006/2/16, Joerg Mayer :

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On Thu, Feb 16, 2006 at 11:01:29AM +0000, Ciro Iriarte wrote:

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Are you talking about the official tar from nagios.sourceforge.net?. It's an option, but that way i'm losing the init scripts for example... Am i right?.

There's one thing about this discussion/lamenting that I don't understand: nagios 2 has been production quality for a while and has been at least as good as 1.x for more than 2 Suse releases. The major step from 2beta to 2release was that documentation was "complete". We've been using 2.x from alpha stage onwards with networks of more than 2000 manged components. So, what I just don't get: Why does the release of 2.0 make a switch from 1.x to 2.0 so urgent now?

ciao Joerg -- Joerg Mayer We are stuck with technology when what we really want is just stuff that works. Some say that should read Microsoft instead of technology.

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Being "Stable" was a requirenment to include it with the distro according

to the Wiki. Ciro

Hans-Peter Jansen

16 Feb 16 Feb

12:21

New subject: [opensuse-factory] Re: Nagios 2.0

A: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post Q: Were do I find info about this thing called top-posting? A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Am Donnerstag, 16. Februar 2006 12:01 schrieb Ciro Iriarte:

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Are you talking about the official tar from nagios.sourceforge.net?. It's an option, but that way i'm losing the init scripts for example... Am i right?. Ciro

If the latest official SUSE rpm contains one, and you take their spec as the base to build the current version (with adequate adjustments), you will have to take special measures to prevent rpmbuild from including them! It's not rocket science. I highly recommend you to look into: /usr/share/doc/packages/rpm/RPM-HOWTO/index.html Pete

Ciro Iriarte

18 Feb 18 Feb

01:39

New subject: [opensuse-factory] Re: Nagios 2.0

2006/2/16, Hans-Peter Jansen :

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A: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post Q: Were do I find info about this thing called top-posting? A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?

Am Donnerstag, 16. Februar 2006 12:01 schrieb Ciro Iriarte:

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Are you talking about the official tar from nagios.sourceforge.net?. It's an option, but that way i'm losing the init scripts for example... Am i right?. Ciro

If the latest official SUSE rpm contains one, and you take their spec as the base to build the current version (with adequate adjustments), you will have to take special measures to prevent rpmbuild from including them! It's not rocket science.

I highly recommend you to look into: /usr/share/doc/packages/rpm/RPM-HOWTO/index.html

Pete

Thanks for the info, i'll check that once i get to the office, so i build my own rpm packages, just don't want to lose the init scripts and other customizations that one gets with the distro's supplied packages, don't even mentioning the updates... And sorry for the top posting, it was my phone/gmail combination's fault. CI.-

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