[opensuse-factory] Leap 15 Reference HCL laptop(s)
Hi List, Would it be possible to "offer" the Leap 15 desktops tested on one/some reference HCL Laptop(s)? If so, I will opt for and suggest the most current Linux UB laptop, Dell XPS 13 Dev (9370/2018), which is delievered with supported Ubuntu 16.04 LTS from Dell. If Leap 15's "laptop pattern and drivers" manage to install and run streamlined in a dualboot setup, both users and reviewers will truly be happy ;) -------------------------- Terje J. Hanssen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Den 05. feb. 2018 00:49, skrev Terje J. Hanssen:
Hi List,
Would it be possible to "offer" the Leap 15 desktops tested on one/some reference HCL Laptop(s)?
If so, I will opt for and suggest the most current Linux UB laptop, Dell XPS 13 Dev (9370/2018), which is delievered with supported Ubuntu 16.04 LTS from Dell. If Leap 15's "laptop pattern and drivers" manage to install and run streamlined in a dualboot setup, both users and reviewers will truly be happy ;)
-------------------------- Terje J. Hanssen
No response here so far on this, so I try a little bit further: HCL laptop - "Hardware Compatible (List of) laptops for Leap 15 https://en.opensuse.org/HCL:Laptops Novell/SUSE had a more formal tested equivalent: "YES Certified Program" I.e my now 10 years old hp8710w mobile workstation was once SLED 10 certified (2007) https://www.suse.com/yes/91889.htm I think this was of help since every openSUSE distro since that has been able to install and run on it. Regarding my request for Leap 15 "HCL support" for Dell XPS 13 (9370) Ultrabook: Is it of interest here as a start to post its output list of hardware (lshw) and kernel modules (lsmod) in use? ----------------- Terje J. H -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Am Mittwoch, 14. Februar 2018, 01:31:42 CET schrieb Terje J. Hanssen:
Den 05. feb. 2018 00:49, skrev Terje J. Hanssen:
Hi List,
Would it be possible to "offer" the Leap 15 desktops tested on one/some reference HCL Laptop(s)?
If so, I will opt for and suggest the most current Linux UB laptop, Dell XPS 13 Dev (9370/2018), which is delievered with supported Ubuntu 16.04 LTS from Dell. If Leap 15's "laptop pattern and drivers" manage to install and run streamlined in a dualboot setup, both users and reviewers will truly be happy ;)
-------------------------- Terje J. Hanssen
No response here so far on this, so I try a little bit further:
HCL laptop - "Hardware Compatible (List of) laptops for Leap 15 https://en.opensuse.org/HCL:Laptops
More general remark to this page: When looking at it fist I thought 'uh, its empty', until I determined that small green band with even smaller text listing the various brands. This size is nothing one (=normal user) can change. Maybe a suggestion for the admins/heroes? On the topic itself....a good idea. Finding suitable hardware for Linux is always a PITA, and there are many pages or special interest groups out there, and the hardware described is mostly aged. (looking at my own collection of hardware and hints for ThinkPads, that seems to be a look back into computer history...issues when moving from KDE 2 to 3....Even the ThinkPad webring still exists...wow) Aged hardware itself must not be wrong, esp. if you work aside of the mainstream (my old T520, started with openSUSE 12.1, has now a SSD and TW, no need to buy a new one). More burning the question will be if it works on brand new hardware - so if anyone can get a new device for testing, I feel it will be mostly welcome. Maybe we can even add a link from https://www.opensuse.org/#Leap (or #Tumbleweed ) to the hardware list (Does my device run openSUSE?) Best regards Axel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2018-02-14 09:53, Axel Braun wrote:
On the topic itself....a good idea. Finding suitable hardware for Linux is always a PITA, and there are many pages or special interest groups out there, and the hardware described is mostly aged. (looking at my own collection of hardware and hints for ThinkPads, that seems to be a look back into computer history...issues when moving from KDE 2 to 3....Even the ThinkPad webring still exists...wow) Aged hardware itself must not be wrong, esp. if you work aside of the mainstream (my old T520, started with openSUSE 12.1, has now a SSD and TW, no need to buy a new one). More burning the question will be if it works on brand new hardware - so if anyone can get a new device for testing, I feel it will be mostly welcome.
There was a project, some years ago, that collected information from users that run a script on their machines and automatically updated a database. We used links to that site to the page that described our machines on bugzillas. But it died. I forget the name. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.3 x86_64 "Malachite" (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iF4EAREIAAYFAlqEHAIACgkQja8UbcUWM1wLEQD/c0m/zyAJxfIU7fMS3fLOC2Kd 3aRG4/IBCJv6bCltd54A/RuBqB/VVyO0ysRoLGC1Ojm9SIqg7gDvVKSMr8TB4rc0 =ifxL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Carlos E. R. wrote:
There was a project, some years ago, that collected information from users that run a script on their machines and automatically updated a database. We used links to that site to the page that described our machines on bugzillas.
But it died. I forget the name.
Hmm, do you mean http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/linux-laptop/? That's indeed long ago... Those two are still online: http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/ http://www.tuxmobil.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2018-02-14 13:14, Peter Suetterlin wrote:
Carlos E. R. wrote:
There was a project, some years ago, that collected information from users that run a script on their machines and automatically updated a database. We used links to that site to the page that described our machines on bugzillas.
But it died. I forget the name.
Hmm, do you mean http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/linux-laptop/? That's indeed long ago...
No, not that one. Let me try... SMOLT. The site was <http://www.smolts.org/> Some info here: <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smolt_(Linux)>
Those two are still online:
I must have a look there. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.3 x86_64 "Malachite" (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iF4EAREIAAYFAlqELNIACgkQja8UbcUWM1wbMAD+JdDr5E6WLhwdVOEUdEJNB0Hh AQllrJMdtImyhZFs7I0A/3FjWF/AcRZTP80XTGuMlYZp89Tqh8XATX3Amag6OJ1D =/8L7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Hello, Am Mittwoch, 14. Februar 2018, 09:53:28 CET schrieb Axel Braun:
Am Mittwoch, 14. Februar 2018, 01:31:42 CET schrieb Terje J. Hanssen:
HCL laptop - "Hardware Compatible (List of) laptops for Leap 15 https://en.opensuse.org/HCL:Laptops
More general remark to this page: When looking at it fist I thought 'uh, its empty', until I determined that small green band with even smaller text listing the various brands.
This size is nothing one (=normal user) can change. Maybe a suggestion for the admins/heroes?
No admin needed here ;-) You can fix this yourself - you "just" need to find your way through the wiki templates ;-) The bar listing the brands on https://en.opensuse.org/HCL:Laptops is (as you can see in the page source) https://en.opensuse.org/Template:Navigation_Laptops If you check the source for that template, you'll notice someone added a <small> tag. Removing it should be easy ;-) (However, note that the same bar is used on all HCL:$vendor_laptops pages, so it's probably a good idea to check how they look after removing the <small> tag.) It might also be a good idea to move that bar downwards on the HCL:Laptops page and/or maybe add a sentence like "You can find information about specific vendors on the pages listed below" or something like that. I'll leave both changes as an exercise to you ;-) Regards, Christian Boltz --
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Den 14. feb. 2018 01:31, skrev Terje J. Hanssen:
Den 05. feb. 2018 00:49, skrev Terje J. Hanssen:
Hi List,
Would it be possible to "offer" the Leap 15 desktops tested on one/some reference HCL Laptop(s)?
If so, I will opt for and suggest the most current Linux UB laptop, Dell XPS 13 Dev (9370/2018), which is delievered with supported Ubuntu 16.04 LTS from Dell. If Leap 15's "laptop pattern and drivers" manage to install and run streamlined in a dualboot setup, both users and reviewers will truly be happy ;)
-------------------------- Terje J. Hanssen
............snip .............
Regarding my request for Leap 15 "HCL support" for Dell XPS 13 (9370) Ultrabook:
Is it of interest here as a start to post its output list of hardware (lshw) and kernel modules (lsmod) in use?
----------------- Terje J. H
On 2018-02-14 09:53, Axel Braun wrote:
On the topic itself....a good idea. Finding suitable hardware for Linux is always a PITA, and there are many pages or special interest groups out there, and the hardware described is mostly aged. (looking at my own collection of hardware and hints for ThinkPads, that seems to be a look back into computer history...issues when moving from KDE 2 to 3....Even the ThinkPad webring still exists...wow) Aged hardware itself must not be wrong, esp. if you work aside of the mainstream (my old T520, started with openSUSE 12.1, has now a SSD and TW, no need to buy a new one). More burning the question will be if it works on brand new hardware - so if anyone can get a new device for testing, I feel it will be mostly welcome.
Maybe we can even add a link from https://www.opensuse.org/#Leap (or #Tumbleweed ) to the hardware list (Does my device run openSUSE?)
Best regards Axel
I got my brand new XPS 13 (9370) yesterday. I'm interested to do test Leap 15 if I get neccessay guidance here, because I want to run Leap on it beside Ubuntu (and Windows10 for special cases) on what to do. But I don't want to change the pre-installed Ubuntu 16.04 LTS to not break the Dell support.... So below my sign here follows a fairly long collected output from running inxi, lshw and lsmod on Ubuntu - for what it's worth as information: ----------------- Terje J. H inxi -Fz System: Host: terje-XPS-13-9370 Kernel: 4.4.0-112-generic x86_64 (64 bit) Desktop: Unity 7.4.0 Distro: Ubuntu 16.04 xenial Machine: System: Dell (portable) product: XPS 13 9370 Mobo: Dell model: 0F6P3V v: A00 Bios: Dell v: 1.0.2 date: 12/06/2017 CPU: Quad core Intel Core i7-8550U (-HT-MCP-) cache: 8192 KB clock speeds: max: 4000 MHz 1: 644 MHz 2: 819 MHz 3: 2698 MHz 4: 616 MHz 5: 667 MHz 6: 777 MHz 7: 961 MHz 8: 772 MHz Graphics: Card: Intel Device 5917 Display Server: X.Org 1.18.4 drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) Resolution: 3840x2160@60.00hz GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Kabylake GT1.5 GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 17.2.4 Audio: Card Intel Device 9d71 driver: snd_hda_intel Sound: ALSA v: k4.4.0-112-generic Network: Card: Qualcomm Atheros QCA6174 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter driver: ath10k_pci IF: wlp2s0 state: up mac: <filter> Drives: HDD Total Size: 15.7GB (Used Error!) ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 model: N/A size: 1024.2GB ID-2: USB /dev/sda model: DataTraveler_3.0 size: 15.7GB Partition: ID-1: / size: 903G used: 5.3G (1%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/nvme0n1p3 ID-2: swap-1 size: 33.76GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/nvme0n1p4 RAID: No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 25.0C mobo: N/A Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A Info: Processes: 348 Uptime: 1:46 Memory: 902.5/15763.8MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.2.35 ############################################################## lshw terje-xps-13-9370 description: Computer width: 64 bits capabilities: vsyscall32 *-core description: Motherboard physical id: 0 *-memory description: System memory physical id: 0 size: 15GiB *-cpu product: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-8550U CPU @ 1.80GHz vendor: Intel Corp. physical id: 1 bus info: cpu@0 size: 768MHz capacity: 4GHz width: 64 bits capabilities: fpu fpu_exception wp vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx pdpe1gb rdtscp x86-64 constant_tsc art arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good nopl xtopology nonstop_tsc aperfmperf eagerfpu pni pclmulqdq dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2 ssse3 sdbg fma cx16 xtpr pdcm pcid sse4_1 sse4_2 x2apic movbe popcnt tsc_deadline_timer aes xsave avx f16c rdrand lahf_lm abm 3dnowprefetch epb intel_pt tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority ept vpid fsgsbase tsc_adjust bmi1 avx2 smep bmi2 erms invpcid mpx rdseed adx smap clflushopt xsaveopt xsavec xgetbv1 dtherm ida arat pln pts hwp hwp_notify hwp_act_window hwp_epp cpufreq *-pci description: Host bridge product: Intel Corporation vendor: Intel Corporation physical id: 100 bus info: pci@0000:00:00.0 version: 08 width: 32 bits clock: 33MHz *-display description: VGA compatible controller product: Intel Corporation vendor: Intel Corporation physical id: 2 bus info: pci@0000:00:02.0 version: 07 width: 64 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: vga_controller bus_master cap_list rom configuration: driver=i915_bpo latency=0 resources: irq:277 memory:db000000-dbffffff memory:50000000-5fffffff ioport:f000(size=64) *-generic:0 description: Signal processing controller product: Skylake Processor Thermal Subsystem vendor: Intel Corporation physical id: 4 bus info: pci@0000:00:04.0 version: 08 width: 64 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: cap_list configuration: driver=proc_thermal latency=0 resources: irq:16 memory:dc420000-dc427fff *-usb description: USB controller product: Sunrise Point-LP USB 3.0 xHCI Controller vendor: Intel Corporation physical id: 14 bus info: pci@0000:00:14.0 version: 21 width: 64 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: xhci bus_master cap_list configuration: driver=xhci_hcd latency=0 resources: irq:122 memory:dc410000-dc41ffff *-generic:1 UNCLAIMED description: Signal processing controller product: Sunrise Point-LP Thermal subsystem vendor: Intel Corporation physical id: 14.2 bus info: pci@0000:00:14.2 version: 21 width: 64 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: cap_list configuration: latency=0 resources: memory:dc434000-dc434fff *-generic:2 description: Signal processing controller product: Sunrise Point-LP Serial IO I2C Controller #0 vendor: Intel Corporation physical id: 15 bus info: pci@0000:00:15.0 version: 21 width: 64 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: bus_master cap_list configuration: driver=intel-lpss latency=0 resources: irq:16 memory:dc433000-dc433fff *-generic:3 description: Signal processing controller product: Sunrise Point-LP Serial IO I2C Controller #1 vendor: Intel Corporation physical id: 15.1 bus info: pci@0000:00:15.1 version: 21 width: 64 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: bus_master cap_list configuration: driver=intel-lpss latency=0 resources: irq:17 memory:dc432000-dc432fff *-communication description: Communication controller product: Sunrise Point-LP CSME HECI #1 vendor: Intel Corporation physical id: 16 bus info: pci@0000:00:16.0 version: 21 width: 64 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: bus_master cap_list configuration: driver=mei_me latency=0 resources: irq:276 memory:dc431000-dc431fff *-pci:0 description: PCI bridge product: Intel Corporation vendor: Intel Corporation physical id: 1c bus info: pci@0000:00:1c.0 version: f1 width: 32 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: pci normal_decode bus_master cap_list configuration: driver=pcieport resources: irq:16 memory:dc300000-dc3fffff *-generic description: Unassigned class product: RTS525A PCI Express Card Reader vendor: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. physical id: 0 bus info: pci@0000:01:00.0 version: 01 width: 32 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: bus_master cap_list configuration: driver=rtsx_pci latency=0 resources: irq:275 memory:dc300000-dc300fff *-pci:1 description: PCI bridge product: Intel Corporation vendor: Intel Corporation physical id: 1c.2 bus info: pci@0000:00:1c.2 version: f1 width: 32 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: pci normal_decode bus_master cap_list configuration: driver=pcieport resources: irq:18 memory:dc000000-dc1fffff *-network description: Wireless interface product: QCA6174 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter vendor: Qualcomm Atheros physical id: 0 bus info: pci@0000:02:00.0 logical name: wlp2s0 version: 32 serial: 9c:b6:d0:89:8b:31 width: 64 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: bus_master cap_list ethernet physical wireless configuration: broadcast=yes driver=ath10k_pci driverversion=4.4.0-94-generic firmware=WLAN.RM.2.0-00180-QCARMSWPZ-1 ip=192.168.1.33 latency=0 link=yes multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 802.11abgn resources: irq:286 memory:dc000000-dc1fffff *-pci:2 description: PCI bridge product: Sunrise Point-LP PCI Express Root Port #5 vendor: Intel Corporation physical id: 1c.4 bus info: pci@0000:00:1c.4 version: f1 width: 32 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: pci normal_decode bus_master cap_list configuration: driver=pcieport resources: irq:16 ioport:2000(size=4096) memory:ac000000-da0fffff ioport:60000000(size=1241513984) *-pci description: PCI bridge product: JHL6540 Thunderbolt 3 Bridge (C step) [Alpine Ridge 4C 2016] vendor: Intel Corporation physical id: 0 bus info: pci@0000:03:00.0 version: 02 width: 32 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: pci normal_decode bus_master cap_list configuration: driver=pcieport resources: irq:295 memory:ac000000-da0fffff ioport:60000000(size=1241513984) *-pci:0 description: PCI bridge product: JHL6540 Thunderbolt 3 Bridge (C step) [Alpine Ridge 4C 2016] vendor: Intel Corporation physical id: 0 bus info: pci@0000:04:00.0 version: 02 width: 64 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: pci normal_decode bus_master cap_list configuration: driver=pcieport resources: iomemory:1f10-1f0f irq:296 memory:da000000-da0fffff *-pci:1 description: PCI bridge product: JHL6540 Thunderbolt 3 Bridge (C step) [Alpine Ridge 4C 2016] vendor: Intel Corporation physical id: 1 bus info: pci@0000:04:01.0 version: 02 width: 64 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: pci normal_decode bus_master cap_list configuration: driver=pcieport resources: iomemory:1f10-1f0f irq:297 memory:ac000000-c3efffff ioport:60000000(size=536870912) *-pci:2 description: PCI bridge product: JHL6540 Thunderbolt 3 Bridge (C step) [Alpine Ridge 4C 2016] vendor: Intel Corporation physical id: 2 bus info: pci@0000:04:02.0 version: 02 width: 64 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: pci normal_decode bus_master cap_list configuration: driver=pcieport resources: iomemory:1f10-1f0f irq:298 memory:c3f00000-c3ffffff *-usb description: USB controller product: Intel Corporation vendor: Intel Corporation physical id: 0 bus info: pci@0000:39:00.0 version: 02 width: 32 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: xhci bus_master cap_list configuration: driver=xhci_hcd latency=0 resources: irq:300 memory:c3f00000-c3f0ffff *-pci:3 description: PCI bridge product: JHL6540 Thunderbolt 3 Bridge (C step) [Alpine Ridge 4C 2016] vendor: Intel Corporation physical id: 4 bus info: pci@0000:04:04.0 version: 02 width: 64 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: pci normal_decode bus_master cap_list configuration: driver=pcieport resources: iomemory:1f10-1f0f irq:299 memory:c4000000-d9ffffff ioport:80000000(size=704643072) *-pci:3 description: PCI bridge product: Sunrise Point-LP PCI Express Root Port #9 vendor: Intel Corporation physical id: 1d bus info: pci@0000:00:1d.0 version: f1 width: 32 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: pci normal_decode bus_master cap_list configuration: driver=pcieport resources: irq:16 memory:dc200000-dc2fffff *-storage description: Non-Volatile memory controller product: Toshiba America Info Systems vendor: Toshiba America Info Systems physical id: 0 bus info: pci@0000:6e:00.0 version: 00 width: 64 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: storage nvm_express bus_master cap_list configuration: driver=nvme latency=0 resources: irq:16 memory:dc200000-dc203fff *-isa description: ISA bridge product: Intel Corporation vendor: Intel Corporation physical id: 1f bus info: pci@0000:00:1f.0 version: 21 width: 32 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: isa bus_master configuration: latency=0 *-memory UNCLAIMED description: Memory controller product: Sunrise Point-LP PMC vendor: Intel Corporation physical id: 1f.2 bus info: pci@0000:00:1f.2 version: 21 width: 32 bits clock: 33MHz (30.3ns) configuration: latency=0 resources: memory:dc42c000-dc42ffff *-multimedia description: Audio device product: Intel Corporation vendor: Intel Corporation physical id: 1f.3 bus info: pci@0000:00:1f.3 version: 21 width: 64 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: bus_master cap_list configuration: driver=snd_hda_intel latency=32 resources: irq:279 memory:dc428000-dc42bfff memory:dc400000-dc40ffff *-serial UNCLAIMED description: SMBus product: Sunrise Point-LP SMBus vendor: Intel Corporation physical id: 1f.4 bus info: pci@0000:00:1f.4 version: 21 width: 64 bits clock: 33MHz configuration: latency=0 resources: memory:dc430000-dc4300ff ioport:f040(size=32) *-scsi physical id: 1 bus info: scsi@0 logical name: scsi0 capabilities: scsi-host configuration: driver=usb-storage ########################################################################### lsmod Module Size Used by uas 24576 0 usb_storage 69632 2 uas cdc_ether 16384 0 usbnet 45056 1 cdc_ether r8152 49152 0 mii 16384 2 r8152,usbnet drbg 32768 1 ansi_cprng 16384 0 ctr 16384 3 ccm 20480 3 arc4 16384 2 rfcomm 69632 2 cmac 16384 2 bnep 20480 2 hid_multitouch 20480 0 snd_hda_codec_hdmi 49152 1 dell_laptop 20480 0 dcdbas 16384 1 dell_laptop i2c_designware_platform 16384 0 i2c_designware_core 20480 1 i2c_designware_platform intel_rapl 20480 0 dell_wmi 16384 0 x86_pkg_temp_thermal 16384 0 intel_powerclamp 16384 0 coretemp 16384 0 dell_led 16384 1 snd_hda_codec_realtek 94208 1 snd_hda_codec_generic 73728 1 snd_hda_codec_realtek kvm_intel 172032 0 kvm 544768 1 kvm_intel irqbypass 16384 1 kvm crct10dif_pclmul 16384 0 crc32_pclmul 16384 0 ghash_clmulni_intel 16384 0 aesni_intel 167936 8 aes_x86_64 20480 1 aesni_intel ath10k_pci 45056 0 lrw 16384 1 aesni_intel gf128mul 16384 1 lrw ath10k_core 311296 1 ath10k_pci glue_helper 16384 1 aesni_intel ablk_helper 16384 1 aesni_intel cryptd 20480 3 ghash_clmulni_intel,aesni_intel,ablk_helper ath 32768 1 ath10k_core snd_hda_intel 40960 3 snd_hda_codec 135168 4 snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_intel mac80211 737280 1 ath10k_core snd_hda_core 90112 5 snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel snd_hwdep 16384 1 snd_hda_codec snd_pcm 106496 4 snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_core serio_raw 16384 0 snd_seq_midi 16384 0 snd_seq_midi_event 16384 1 snd_seq_midi cfg80211 565248 3 ath,mac80211,ath10k_core snd_rawmidi 32768 1 snd_seq_midi rtsx_pci_ms 20480 0 snd_seq 69632 2 snd_seq_midi_event,snd_seq_midi memstick 20480 1 rtsx_pci_ms snd_seq_device 16384 3 snd_seq,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_midi snd_timer 32768 2 snd_pcm,snd_seq snd 81920 17 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Terje J. Hanssen wrote:
I got my brand new XPS 13 (9370) yesterday. I'm interested to do test Leap 15 if I get neccessay guidance here, because I want to run Leap on it beside Ubuntu (and Windows10 for special cases) on what to do. But I don't want to change the pre-installed Ubuntu 16.04 LTS to not break the Dell support....
Does Dell actually offer any particular support? You need to carve out some space for Leap15 - this depends on the current partitioning of your new machine, maybe resizing a filesystem. Then you install Leap15 and add it to the bootloader. I don't have any multi-boot machines myself, but there is plenty of howtos and documentation on it. The hardware is obviously 100% supported by Ubuntu LTS, so you should have no issues with Leap15. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (-0.7°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - free dynamic DNS, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 2018-02-15 09:17, Per Jessen wrote:
Terje J. Hanssen wrote:
I got my brand new XPS 13 (9370) yesterday. I'm interested to do test Leap 15 if I get neccessay guidance here, because I want to run Leap on it beside Ubuntu (and Windows10 for special cases) on what to do. But I don't want to change the pre-installed Ubuntu 16.04 LTS to not break the Dell support....
Does Dell actually offer any particular support?
You need to carve out some space for Leap15 - this depends on the current partitioning of your new machine, maybe resizing a filesystem. Then you install Leap15 and add it to the bootloader. I don't have any multi-boot machines myself, but there is plenty of howtos and documentation on it.
The alternative is replacing the hard disk with a new one and storing the original safe, just in case you need the warranty.
The hardware is obviously 100% supported by Ubuntu LTS, so you should have no issues with Leap15.
The exception is, when the manufacturer adds some specific driver for themselves, not passed upstream to the kernel. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)
On 15/02/18 19:17, Per Jessen wrote:
Terje J. Hanssen wrote:
I got my brand new XPS 13 (9370) yesterday. I'm interested to do test Leap 15 if I get neccessay guidance here, because I want to run Leap on it beside Ubuntu (and Windows10 for special cases) on what to do. But I don't want to change the pre-installed Ubuntu 16.04 LTS to not break the Dell support.... Does Dell actually offer any particular support?
You need to carve out some space for Leap15 - this depends on the current partitioning of your new machine, maybe resizing a filesystem. Then you install Leap15 and add it to the bootloader.
When installing Leap 15 its bootloader will detect other OSs installed on the HD and will include them in the grub2 menu (in this case Ubuntu and Win10).
I don't have any multi-boot machines myself, but there is plenty of howtos and documentation on it.
The hardware is obviously 100% supported by Ubuntu LTS, so you should have no issues with Leap15.
BC -- Always be nice to people on your way up -- you'll see the same people on your way down. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Thu, 15 Feb 2018 20:56, Basil Chupin wrote:
On 15/02/18 19:17, Per Jessen wrote:
Terje J. Hanssen wrote:
I got my brand new XPS 13 (9370) yesterday. I'm interested to do test Leap 15 if I get neccessay guidance here, because I want to run Leap on it beside Ubuntu (and Windows10 for special cases) on what to do. But I don't want to change the pre-installed Ubuntu 16.04 LTS to not break the Dell support....
Does Dell actually offer any particular support?
You need to carve out some space for Leap15 - this depends on the current partitioning of your new machine, maybe resizing a filesystem. Then you install Leap15 and add it to the bootloader.
When installing Leap 15 its bootloader will detect other OSs installed on the HD and will include them in the grub2 menu (in this case Ubuntu and Win10).
I don't have any multi-boot machines myself, but there is plenty of howtos and documentation on it.
The hardware is obviously 100% supported by Ubuntu LTS, so you should have no issues with Leap15.
BC
One year Dell Pro-support is included, i.e SR, BIOS and Ubuntu OS Updates/iso and Recovery iso: http://www.dell.com/support/home/us/en/19/drivers/driversdetails?driverid=c5p74&fileid=12111772&categoryid=is http://www.dell.com/support/home/us/en/19/drivers/osiso/linux The Dell XPS 13 9370 laptop with the components described has been awarded the status of certified pre-install for Ubuntu. https://certification.ubuntu.com/hardware/201708-25696/ I have "mostly" used dual-or-triple boot setups on my other laptop and workstations, currently Leap 42.3/Leap15.0Beta and Windows. Regarding the new XPS 13, I am able to look closer at it after help from Dell support to enable Legacy boot for USB3 Leap via Thunderbolt/USB-C port and DA-300 adapter. The 1 TiB SSD (nvme0n) is partioned as follows: p1: 600 MiB EFI Boot FAT ESP /boot/efi p2: 5 GiB Win95 FAT LBA OS p3: 900 GiB Linux Native ext4 Ubuntu / p4: 31.4 GiB Linux Swap swap With the YaST2 installer I tried to first resize the Ubuntu p3 partition down to 700 GiB, and next added two new OS partitions: p5: 100 GiB Linux Native ext4 (for Leap /) p6: 100 GiB NTFS (for Windows next/later) Then the following YaST2 Warning poped up: "There is no partitions of type bios_grub present. Such a partition is recommended (required with Btrfs) when Grub2 is installed in the MBR of a GPT disk. It must be unformatted and approximately 1 MB large. Really use this setup? " Yes or No? I wouldn't take the risk to break something here, so I stopped with "No". 1) I couldn't find out how to solve the above warning/request for a "bios_grub" partition of 1 MB .........? 2) Should the pre-created p1 (/boot/efi) and p4 (swap) be mounted correspondingly for the new Leap (as it has been for Ubuntu)? 3) How safe is it that both Ubuntu and Leap will be available from the grub2 boot menu after adding a Leap-installation? (On my other machines I sometimes have to re-install (upgrade) the boot loader on the first systems before this works). --------------- Terje J. H -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Am 21.02.2018 um 03:04 schrieb Terje J. Hanssen:
On Thu, 15 Feb 2018 20:56, Basil Chupin wrote:
On 15/02/18 19:17, Per Jessen wrote:
Terje J. Hanssen wrote:
I got my brand new XPS 13 (9370) yesterday. I'm interested to do test Leap 15 if I get neccessay guidance here, because I want to run Leap on it beside Ubuntu (and Windows10 for special cases) on what to do. But I don't want to change the pre-installed Ubuntu 16.04 LTS to not break the Dell support....
Does Dell actually offer any particular support?
You need to carve out some space for Leap15 - this depends on the current partitioning of your new machine, maybe resizing a filesystem. Then you install Leap15 and add it to the bootloader.
When installing Leap 15 its bootloader will detect other OSs installed on the HD and will include them in the grub2 menu (in this case Ubuntu and Win10).
I don't have any multi-boot machines myself, but there is plenty of howtos and documentation on it.
The hardware is obviously 100% supported by Ubuntu LTS, so you should have no issues with Leap15.
One year Dell Pro-support is included, i.e SR, BIOS and Ubuntu OS Updates/iso and Recovery iso: http://www.dell.com/support/home/us/en/19/drivers/driversdetails?driverid=c5p74&fileid=12111772&categoryid=is
http://www.dell.com/support/home/us/en/19/drivers/osiso/linux
The Dell XPS 13 9370 laptop with the components described has been awarded the status of certified pre-install for Ubuntu. https://certification.ubuntu.com/hardware/201708-25696/
I have "mostly" used dual-or-triple boot setups on my other laptop and workstations, currently Leap 42.3/Leap15.0Beta and Windows.
Regarding the new XPS 13, I am able to look closer at it after help from Dell support to enable Legacy boot for USB3 Leap via Thunderbolt/USB-C port and DA-300 adapter.
How did you manage? Thx. Regards, Frank -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Wed, 21 Feb 2018 07:33, Frank Krüger wrote:
Den 21. feb. 2018 03:04, skrev Terje J. Hanssen:
Regarding the new XPS 13, I am able to look closer at it after help from Dell support to enable Legacy boot for USB3 Leap via Thunderbolt/USB-C port and DA-300 adapter.
How did you manage? Thx.
Regards, Frank
I was guided to and followed the following Dell KB article: How to boot to an external device using USB TYPE-C connection http://www.dell.com/support/article/us/en/19/sln301218/how-to-boot-to-an-ext... Additional I disabled Secure Boot mode (set UEFI: Secure Boot: OFF) Then with F12, the Legacy Boot menu with "USB storage device" second option was available and selected. (tried also another option UEFI: Kingston DataTraveller" on the lower UEFI Boot menu, but the fonts there were terrible small) --------------- Terje J. H -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On mercredi, 21 février 2018 12.58:47 h CET Terje J. Hanssen wrote:
On Wed, 21 Feb 2018 07:33, Frank Krüger wrote:
Den 21. feb. 2018 03:04, skrev Terje J. Hanssen:
Regarding the new XPS 13, I am able to look closer at it after help from Dell support to enable Legacy boot for USB3 Leap via Thunderbolt/USB-C port and DA-300 adapter.
How did you manage? Thx.
Regards, Frank
I was guided to and followed the following Dell KB article: How to boot to an external device using USB TYPE-C connection http://www.dell.com/support/article/us/en/19/sln301218/how-to-boot-to-an-ext ernal-device-using-usb-type-c-connection?lang=en
Additional I disabled Secure Boot mode (set UEFI: Secure Boot: OFF)
Then with F12, the Legacy Boot menu with "USB storage device" second option was available and selected. (tried also another option UEFI: Kingston DataTraveller" on the lower UEFI Boot menu, but the fonts there were terrible small)
--------------- Terje J. H
at least you can use this on boot line to have a chance to see something on a 4K console :-) rd.vconsole.font=ter-v32b.psfu I still didn't find the time to check how I can increase grub font and change keyboard layout for opening more confortably my btrfs / encrypted in luks -- Bruno Friedmann Ioda-Net Sàrl www.ioda-net.ch Bareos Partner, openSUSE Member, fsfe fellowship GPG KEY : D5C9B751C4653227 irc: tigerfoot -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
22.02.2018 22:20, Bruno Friedmann пишет:
I still didn't find the time to check how I can increase grub font and change keyboard layout for opening more confortably my btrfs / encrypted in luks
You can use grub2-mkfont to create your own font definition and use it in your theme or explicitly if theming is not used. Keyboard layout is unfortunately only implemented for USB keyboard. On UEFI it may be possible to change keyboard layout on firmware level. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Am 22.02.2018 um 20:20 schrieb Bruno Friedmann:
On mercredi, 21 février 2018 12.58:47 h CET Terje J. Hanssen wrote:
On Wed, 21 Feb 2018 07:33, Frank Krüger wrote:
Den 21. feb. 2018 03:04, skrev Terje J. Hanssen:
Regarding the new XPS 13, I am able to look closer at it after help from Dell support to enable Legacy boot for USB3 Leap via Thunderbolt/USB-C port and DA-300 adapter.
How did you manage? Thx.
Regards, Frank
I was guided to and followed the following Dell KB article: How to boot to an external device using USB TYPE-C connection http://www.dell.com/support/article/us/en/19/sln301218/how-to-boot-to-an-ext ernal-device-using-usb-type-c-connection?lang=en
Additional I disabled Secure Boot mode (set UEFI: Secure Boot: OFF)
Then with F12, the Legacy Boot menu with "USB storage device" second option was available and selected. (tried also another option UEFI: Kingston DataTraveller" on the lower UEFI Boot menu, but the fonts there were terrible small)
--------------- Terje J. H
at least you can use this on boot line to have a chance to see something on a 4K console :-)
rd.vconsole.font=ter-v32b.psfu
I still didn't find the time to check how I can increase grub font
GRUB_TERMINAL=console is almost all of the time more useful than the fancy bling bling defaults. Add "GRUB_DISABLE_SUBMENU=y" and you'll almost not miss old grub ;-) -- Stefan Seyfried "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled." -- Richard Feynman -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On vendredi, 23 février 2018 17.25:40 h CET Stefan Seyfried wrote:
Am 22.02.2018 um 20:20 schrieb Bruno Friedmann:
On mercredi, 21 février 2018 12.58:47 h CET Terje J. Hanssen wrote:
On Wed, 21 Feb 2018 07:33, Frank Krüger wrote:
Den 21. feb. 2018 03:04, skrev Terje J. Hanssen:
Regarding the new XPS 13, I am able to look closer at it after help from Dell support to enable Legacy boot for USB3 Leap via Thunderbolt/USB-C port and DA-300 adapter.
How did you manage? Thx.
Regards, Frank
I was guided to and followed the following Dell KB article: How to boot to an external device using USB TYPE-C connection http://www.dell.com/support/article/us/en/19/sln301218/how-to-boot-to-an-> >> ext ernal-device-using-usb-type-c-connection?lang=en
Additional I disabled Secure Boot mode (set UEFI: Secure Boot: OFF)
Then with F12, the Legacy Boot menu with "USB storage device" second option was available and selected. (tried also another option UEFI: Kingston DataTraveller" on the lower UEFI Boot menu, but the fonts there were terrible small)
--------------- Terje J. H
at least you can use this on boot line to have a chance to see something on a 4K console :-)
rd.vconsole.font=ter-v32b.psfu
I still didn't find the time to check how I can increase grub font
GRUB_TERMINAL=console
is almost all of the time more useful than the fancy bling bling defaults.
Add "GRUB_DISABLE_SUBMENU=y" and you'll almost not miss old grub ;-)
Well in my case the uefi console mode is 3840x2160 pixels wide, and as such the default 12px used by grub is like trying to decode a car plate at 200meters That's why I would like to be able to use a @2Xdpi font for grub console too. -- Bruno Friedmann Ioda-Net Sàrl www.ioda-net.ch Bareos Partner, openSUSE Member, fsfe fellowship GPG KEY : D5C9B751C4653227 irc: tigerfoot -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Den 21. feb. 2018 03:04, skrev Terje J. Hanssen:
Regarding the new XPS 13, I am able to look closer at it after help from Dell support to enable Legacy boot for USB3 Leap via Thunderbolt/USB-C port and DA-300 adapter.
The 1 TiB SSD (nvme0n) is partioned as follows:
p1: 600 MiB EFI Boot FAT ESP /boot/efi p2: 5 GiB Win95 FAT LBA OS p3: 900 GiB Linux Native ext4 Ubuntu / p4: 31.4 GiB Linux Swap swap
With the YaST2 installer I tried to first resize the Ubuntu p3 partition down to 700 GiB, and next added two new OS partitions:
p5: 100 GiB Linux Native ext4 (for Leap /) p6: 100 GiB NTFS (for Windows next/later)
Then the following YaST2 Warning poped up: "There is no partitions of type bios_grub present. Such a partition is recommended (required with Btrfs) when Grub2 is installed in the MBR of a GPT disk. It must be unformatted and approximately 1 MB large. Really use this setup? " Yes or No?
I wouldn't take the risk to break something here, so I stopped with "No".
1) I couldn't find out how to solve the above warning/request for a "bios_grub" partition of 1 MB .........?
2) Should the pre-created p1 (/boot/efi) and p4 (swap) be mounted correspondingly for the new Leap (as it has been for Ubuntu)?
3) How safe is it that both Ubuntu and Leap will be available from the grub2 boot menu after adding a Leap-installation? (On my other machines I sometimes have to re-install (upgrade) the boot loader on the first systems before this works).
Just an update here, as I've now succeeded to get a running Leap 15.0 in dual boot setup with the pre-installed Ubuntu 16.04 on XPS 13 9370. The Leap 15.0 beta up to the current Build 139.1 iso, have had some installation bugs that has made installation difficult. The latest announced Build 147.1 seems to have the neccessary fixes and enhancement (not yet available as iso). I noticed that Leap 42.3 was possible to upgrade to early Leap 15.0 alpha from iso on another workstation. Therefore I tried to install Leap 42.3 first on XPS 13 (USB EFI boot with "lupe"). The problem with Leap 42.3 is that its "scan for wifi network" during the installation doesn't find any wifi at all, so also now on XPS 13. And the ethernet was not detected (truly too new for 42.3). As a temporary workaround I installed 42.3 from USB media first without network setup. Used YaST2 installation Expert partitioner and Imported the existing mount points (this traditional feature has been removed from Leap 15.0, but is now re-implemented AFAIK). Unmounted Ubuntu / of course on p4, before formatting p5 as ext4 and mount it as / for Leap 42.3. Next I could upgrade 42.3 using the Leap 15.0 USB iso, where wifi scan works and wifi could be setup during the installation. Now it is upgraded to the latest Leap 15.0 (Build 147.1?) via online repos. Any suggestions how to size-up the SDDM login menu and text if possible (before login to Gnome DE)? When using pure GDM, I'm used with "Large Text" setup in the Universal Access (Accessibility) launcher already at the GDM login. Terje J. H -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Den 02. mars 2018 01:15, skrev Terje J. Hanssen:
The Leap 15.0 beta up to the current Build 139.1 iso, have had some installation bugs that has made installation difficult. The latest announced Build 147.1 seems to have the neccessary fixes and enhancement (not yet available as iso).
The Build 147.1 iso media is available to-day: https://download.opensuse.org/distribution/leap/15.0/iso/ Terje J. H -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
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