Re: [opensuse-factory] boycott systemd
On Monday 11 of August 2014 11:03:29 Chuck Payne wrote:
Instead boycotting and wasting energy something that not going away, why not start complying a list of things that do not work. Ideas on come make it better. The problem you are facing is a lot of distro are becoming sheep, meaning if another popular distro moves in that direction, all other distro must do the same or worry about losing people.
Thank you. This kind of boasting ("We won, suck it up, losers, and start working on our brave new world, chop chop!") is exactly what gives me strength to keep fighting. For me, there is no chance of making systemd better. For systemd to be acceptable at all, it would have to be one of the options and let people decide if they prefer it over other solutions. Like syslog-ng (and we still can use old syslog), xinetd (and we still can use old inetd) or postfix (and we still can use sendmail). It would have to win in a fair competition, persuade users that it's better than other solutions. But the very basic idea of systemd is to avoid fair competition, to appeal to a narrow group of managers who throw the competition out of their distributions and take the choice away from users. I really don't see a chance to fix this basic design fault as long as people behind systemd and people forcing systemd upon distributions consider it a goal rather than a fault. Just look what Cristian Rodríguez writes - according to him, it's best to have only one solution for every task. And unfortunately, people like him drive OpenSuSE these days. For me, one of the main reasons to use Linux was the freedom of choice, if I wanted a world where some manager gives me only The Right Way (TM), I would stay with DOS and Windows. People behind systemd and distribution managers are taking the freedom of choice away from me. Therefore I don't want to build their brave new world and I'm not going to. You may consider work on sanitized OpenSuSE a waste of time, for me it's the only work (on OpenSuSE) that makes sense today. Michal Kubeček -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
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