[opensuse-factory] preload
Hello list, does anybody know the reason why preload is not present in 12.1 and factory anymore? Is it ever supposed to be back? Thanks, Andreas -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 16:54, Freigeist
Hello list,
does anybody know the reason why preload is not present in 12.1 and factory anymore?
Is it ever supposed to be back?
It is not in 12.1. Search the Factory archives on preload or FIBMAP errors to see some of the discussions about it. I'm guessing that might give an indication as to why it was removed. C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Saturday, November 12, 2011 04:54:34 PM Freigeist wrote:
Hello list,
does anybody know the reason why preload is not present in 12.1 and factory anymore?
Is it ever supposed to be back?
Nope, it's obsolete with systemd, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger aj@{suse.com,opensuse.org} Twitter/Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Am 12.11.2011 20:05, schrieb Andreas Jaeger:
On Saturday, November 12, 2011 04:54:34 PM Freigeist wrote:
Hello list,
does anybody know the reason why preload is not present in 12.1 and factory anymore?
Is it ever supposed to be back?
Nope, it's obsolete with systemd,
Andreas Thanks Andreas,
This is what I wanted to know. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Am Samstag, 12. November 2011, 20:05:44 schrieb Andreas Jaeger:
On Saturday, November 12, 2011 04:54:34 PM Freigeist wrote:
Hello list,
does anybody know the reason why preload is not present in 12.1 and factory anymore?
Is it ever supposed to be back?
Nope, it's obsolete with systemd,
I wouldn't say it's obsolete with systemd, but it doesn't work with systemd. Obsolete has readahead support, but as many people reported on the systemd mailing list, this only works for SSDs and preload is optimized for rotating disks (which should be the majority of users). But as it is, maintaining preload doesn't make sense unless better integration into systemd is done and systemd developers have no interest and would rather see the kernel improved to handle concurrent requests to rotating disks better. While I agree with this, we wait for the kernel to improve for many, many years. Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Am Samstag, 12. November 2011, 20:05:44 schrieb Andreas Jaeger:
On Saturday, November 12, 2011 04:54:34 PM Freigeist wrote:
Hello list,
does anybody know the reason why preload is not present in 12.1 and factory anymore?
Is it ever supposed to be back?
Nope, it's obsolete with systemd,
I wouldn't say it's obsolete with systemd, but it doesn't work with systemd. Obsolete has readahead support, but as many people reported on the systemd mailing list, this only works for SSDs and preload is optimized for rotating disks (which should be the majority of users). But as it is, maintaining preload doesn't make sense unless better integration into systemd is done and systemd developers have no interest and would rather see the kernel improved to handle concurrent requests to rotating disks better. While I agree with this, we wait for the kernel to improve for many, many years. Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Am Montag, 14. November 2011, 11:58:25 schrieb Stephan Kulow:
Am Samstag, 12. November 2011, 20:05:44 schrieb Andreas Jaeger:
On Saturday, November 12, 2011 04:54:34 PM Freigeist wrote:
Hello list,
does anybody know the reason why preload is not present in 12.1 and factory anymore?
Is it ever supposed to be back?
Nope, it's obsolete with systemd,
I wouldn't say it's obsolete with systemd, but it doesn't work with systemd. Please see the duplicated mail as kmail's vote to make thunderbird default ;-(
Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 11/14/2011 06:02 AM, Stephan Kulow pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
Am Montag, 14. November 2011, 11:58:25 schrieb Stephan Kulow:
Am Samstag, 12. November 2011, 20:05:44 schrieb Andreas Jaeger:
On Saturday, November 12, 2011 04:54:34 PM Freigeist wrote:
Hello list,
does anybody know the reason why preload is not present in 12.1 and factory anymore?
Is it ever supposed to be back?
Nope, it's obsolete with systemd,
I wouldn't say it's obsolete with systemd, but it doesn't work with systemd. Please see the duplicated mail as kmail's vote to make thunderbird default ;-(
Greetings, Stephan
And some people say that Kmail is good for nothing. :-)) -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Monday, November 14, 2011 08:39:23 AM Ken Schneider - openSUSE wrote:
On 11/14/2011 06:02 AM, Stephan Kulow pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
Am Montag, 14. November 2011, 11:58:25 schrieb Stephan Kulow:
Am Samstag, 12. November 2011, 20:05:44 schrieb Andreas Jaeger:
On Saturday, November 12, 2011 04:54:34 PM Freigeist wrote:
Hello list,
does anybody know the reason why preload is not present in 12.1 and factory anymore?
Is it ever supposed to be back?
Nope, it's obsolete with systemd,
I wouldn't say it's obsolete with systemd, but it doesn't work with systemd.> Please see the duplicated mail as kmail's vote to make thunderbird default ;-(
Greetings, Stephan
And some people say that Kmail is good for nothing. :-)) So KMail is a little buggy. I haven't found it to be buggy in a way that effects my workflow in any critical fashion. And mind you I switched FROM Thunderbird. In any event, since when was openSUSE determined to be the least buggy? lol -- Never eat more than you can lift. -- Miss Piggy
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Stephan Kulow